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MSI Geforce GTS 250 OC 512MB Retail box...$129-$30mir=$99

same as 9800gt line. i think the 512mb is the old cards rebranded. 1gb versions are the newer ones with a new PCB design. still 99 ain't too shabby.
 
Originally posted by: nyker96
same as 9800gt line. i think the 512mb is the old cards rebranded. 1gb versions are the newer ones with a new PCB design. still 99 ain't too shabby.
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Same as the 9800GTX line.

Edit: I think they're shipping both the 512 & 1GB on the new PCB that only requires 1 6-pin PCI-Ex connector eventually.
 
Now since the GTS 250 filled the $100 segment, how low can the 4830 go?

If it hits sub $60 i'm biting and buying a CF motherboard.
 
I just grabbed the XFX GTS 250 512MB card for $120 shipped after 12% live cash back from Tiger Direct. Plus they have the 30 day guarantee with no restocking fee...

12% CB also makes Tiger's i7 920 the best deal going for <$150 for those who don't have a microcenter nearby either.
 
Great deal on a 9800GTX level card, tempted to pick it up for my son's PC, but he's still cruising along with the 8800GT I passed down to him during my last upgrade, so I'll hold off 🙂.
 
Originally posted by: eltrkbrd
Yea, AFAIK the 8800GTS=9800GTX+=GTS 250 but what are the main differences between the 8800 GT & the GTS 250?
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55nm process.
less power consumption.
clocked slightly higher.
shorter pcb.
 
Originally posted by: brownzilla786
Will an AMD x2 5000+ and 2 gigs of ram be a bottleneck for this card?
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A faster processor will always feed whatever graphics card the most info to get the fastest framerates but you'd be fine if you got this card.
 
BlahBlahYouToo, thanks that much I was aware of but are there any changes to the BIOS or actual G92 GPU besides die shrink to 55nm for example? Also, if it's the same card, can I use the same exact drivers for a 9800 GTX+ (say under Mac OS X 10.5.6 or even Linux & Windows)?

I heard something about the thermal fan speed being controlled better by the newer GTS 250 card itself or is that still totally dependent on the drivers?

Under some systems, I heard reports that the 8800GTS/9800 GTX+ would run at 100% fan speed even when the GPU was idle and that the GTS 250 has an update BIOS that corrects some of these issues.

Also, under OS X I hear reports that it uses the same EFI string but that the Framebuffer is different and that the Device ID may have to be edited in the plist file or something like that... not sure as I haven't gotten all the parts in yet (still waiting on the GA-EX58-UD5 mobo and XFX GTS 250 512MB video card)...

I'll check back and post my results. 🙂

-Peace
 
Originally posted by: nyker96
same as 9800gt line. i think the 512mb is the old cards rebranded. 1gb versions are the newer ones with a new PCB design. still 99 ain't too shabby.
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FWIW the 8800GT/9800GT/9800GTX/GTS 250 are the "same" card only in that they use a "G92" chip.

This particular MSI card uses one PCIe power plug, so it is the newer revision. The benefits of this card over, say, an 8800 GT are:

- More stream processors
- Higher core clock
- Higher memory clock
- Much higher shader clock
- HDMI audio passthrough
- Low power idle mode
- Supports Tri-SLI
- Most of the cards have better coolers (but this MSI is... meh)

To call all the cards the "same" is doing it an injustice. With 9800 GT you gain the HDMI audio passthrough (on most of the cards). Heck, at $99 who would buy a 9800 GT over this card? But it's the "same" right?

Originally posted by: eltrkbrd
12% CB also makes Tiger's i7 920 the best deal going for <$150 for those who don't have a microcenter nearby either.
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What? How?
 
Sorry for the typo; I meant <$250 for the i7 920 @ Tiger Direct.

Just go to live.com and search for "Tiger Direct" then click on the 12% cash back sponsored ad.

$280 - 12% + $2 shipping (no tax in most states including Texas) = $248 and change...

Plus you can easily setup your cash back account so Microsoft wires it directly to your paypal account.
 
Yeah, I know about the cashback, but $150... :Q I'll pass at $250 even with cashback. Last time I tried for cashback from TD, it never showed up in my cashback account. :| Now Newegg's not even on it anymore.
 
Microsoft is responsible for the Cash Back, and it showed up in my account within minutes after purchasing from TG.

It was easy for me to justify a $20 price difference from a Q9400 to a i7 920 considering I have a more future proofed build and future upgrades will be less expensive. If I was waiting a few months on prices to drop it would be a different story...
 
Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: nyker96
same as 9800gt line. i think the 512mb is the old cards rebranded. 1gb versions are the newer ones with a new PCB design. still 99 ain't too shabby.
Click to expand...

FWIW the 8800GT/9800GT/9800GTX/GTS 250 are the "same" card only in that they use a "G92" chip.

This particular MSI card uses one PCIe power plug, so it is the newer revision. The benefits of this card over, say, an 8800 GT are:

- More stream processors
- Higher core clock
- Higher memory clock
- Much higher shader clock
- HDMI audio passthrough
- Low power idle mode
- Supports Tri-SLI
- Most of the cards have better coolers (but this MSI is... meh)

To call all the cards the "same" is doing it an injustice. With 9800 GT you gain the HDMI audio passthrough (on most of the cards). Heck, at $99 who would buy a 9800 GT over this card? But it's the "same" right?
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This card (55nm) is equivalent in performance to a 9800GTX+(55nm) which is a slightly improved 9800GTX (65nm)which is a slightly improved 8800GTS 512MB (65nm).

The transitions from 8800GTS 512 to 9800GTX to 98800GTX+ to GT250 also added various other features or perks beyond the improvements in performance.


 
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