MSI 7970 Lightning Spotted at CeBIT

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SlowSpyder

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How have the MSI Lightning cards been in the past? I thought they were monsters on paper, but for the average overclocker got to roughly the same speed. I think for extreme overclockers, this board is built for you. But on the stock cooler, or even swapped out to water, do the Lightning really tend to overclock that much better?

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5870 OC

6970 OC

Looks like they are good cards, but really not an OC that can't be done on a decent reference card, don't you guys think?
 
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INGlewood78

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Paying for a lightning just takes the risk out of getting a dud reference overclocker. Sure you can get a great overclocking reference, but that definitely isn't always the case.

Nice cards, if I didn't already have 2 reference Sapphires, I'd pay a little extra for these cards. My guess is $650 msrp.
 

DrBoss

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My MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III's did not overclock much beyond the factory overclock. What gains i was able to achieve yielded minimal improvements. At the end of the day i ended up keeping the cards at their factory overclock. They were also a non-reference PCB and therefore could not be unlocked to 6970 specs.

I was interested in the MSI Frozr cards because of the cooling system (low heat, low noise). Inside my Fractal Design case, both GPU's never operate beyond 65% fan speed and temps never crest 72 degrees. The setup is silent even when pushing the cards (Crysis, etc).

If you plan on running Crossfire or SLI with MSI frozr's you do need to allow for a spare pci slot between the cards. If they are directly side by side the top card does not get the cooling it needs an will operate at a much high temperature.

THIS is my build thread from last year, its a long read but it includes quite a bit of information on the MSI Frozr performance (at least my experience). Crysis benchmarks HERE
 
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railven

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"Those are speedholes. They make the car go faster."

"Really?"

<takes pick axe to car>



Back on topic. If the strip were red, I'd prefer it better, but since my new MoBo has gold accents, it works too. Not that anyone but me would ever know/see it, still...:)
 

DeeJayeS

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The 7870 Hawk doesn't look too bad either!

hd7870hawk.jpg

Here's hoping they have the 7870 Hawk edition available at launch on the 19th :p
 

ArchAngel777

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Paying for a lightning just takes the risk out of getting a dud reference overclocker. Sure you can get a great overclocking reference, but that definitely isn't always the case.

Yep, this is how I view it too. To be honest, this is probably one the few cards I would actually consider. I am really, really, really happy with my MSI Hawk based cooler, and this looks very similar.
 

realjetavenger

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Is there much of a difference between the twin frzr cooler and what sapphire uses on their oc/toxic models? They at least appear to be very similar. Does one do better with noise and cooling than the other?
 

RussianSensation

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I think the Sapphire Toxic 7970 is going to better the Lightning series.

Factory guaranteed 1150mhz GPU (which likely means cream da le crop GPU binning), 6000mhz GDDR5, most likely a quieter cooler too and 6GB of VRAM for those running two of these for Eyefinity. Sapphire also bundles all the cables, so you are ready to go without spending extra on those.
 
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Quantos

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I think the Sapphire Toxic 7970 is going to better the Lightning series.

Factory guaranteed 1150mhz GPU (which likely means cream da le crop GPU binning), 6000mhz GDDR5, most likely a quieter cooler too and 6GB of VRAM for those running two of these for Eyefinity. Sapphire also bundles all the cables, so you are ready to go without spending extra on those.

You're going to pay for the 6GB RAM, though. If you don't need it...


I'd say the Lightning probably is also getting the same GPU binning treatment as well.

Interesting competition, though! :whiste:
 

aaksheytalwar

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MSI should make this card with something at least as good/quiet/cool as a Accelero Xtreme 7970 and sell for $650+, and release at launch date. I would anyday prefer that over the stock MSI 7970 which I have, considering after market cooling is an additional $100 any way. Even at $670-680 it would be steal with a stock clock of 1070 and more OC room :)
 

chimaxi83

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MSI should make this card with something at least as good/quiet/cool as a Accelero Xtreme 7970 and sell for $650+, and release at launch date. I would anyday prefer that over the stock MSI 7970 which I have, considering after market cooling is an additional $100 any way. Even at $670-680 it would be steal with a stock clock of 1070 and more OC room :)

Ehh... they DO make that card. You're posting in the thread for it. Unlike buying an Accelero, you don't have to cool your VRMs and memory with small heatsinks after buying a $100 cooler, since the Twin Frozr cooler does the entire card.
 

SickBeast

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That's one seriously badass graphics card.

Hopefully Kepler will be good and will drive down the prices.
 

skipsneeky2

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Impressive card,the locked 7970 lighting thread claimed a world overclock of 1,800 core,1925 memory with a whopping 1.7 vcore cause of the features this thing boosts.

Now my tiny 1200 core/1600 memory overclock @ 1.86v looks very insignificant on my reference card LOL thanks for rubbing it in there msi.;)
 

DeeJayeS

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A bit OT, but I am REALLY hoping that MSI launches the 7870 Hawk (similar Twin Frozr IV design to the 7970 Lightning) on the 19th. C'mon MSI.