MS Visual studio

[Sparky19692]

Express Quick Facts

Download Size:
35-70 MB per Express Edition

Price:
Visual Studio Express Editions?Free for 1 year

SQL Server Express Editions?Free

Visual C++ -Free
Free software
I'm not big on writing code abut I know some of you are.

 

[kyzen]

I think this has already been posted.

This is scorching hot for students, hobbyists, and .NET 1.1 developers who want to try out 2.0 before shelling out big bucks for the complete Visual Studio.

 

[DMani]

REPOST

 

[middlehead]

Definitely a repost, but thanks for reminding me. Hadn't gotten around to downloading yet

Original post

Link to ISO images so you don't have to use the express/internet based install

 

[Sparky19692]

Sorry about the repost I searched I guess not well enough.

 

[Diz2K2]

thanks

 

[Nanobaud]

You can't use MFC (and there are a few other cripplings as well) with this version of Visual C++. You can use 'Windows Forms' instead, but then it's just VB with a C++ syntax (isn't that what C# is for?). Not even sure if it can do native (non-managed) code, I uninstalled it after 5 minutes.

VB Express looks like a pretty good deal, though.

Maybe they are trying to encourage the long-term elimination of non-managed, non-professional code. Might take some wind out of some of the open-source-project sails (for Windows) over the long term. If you were ambitious, you used to be able to find most of the tools comprising visual c++ for free downloads (just not the IDE) at Microsoft, though it looks like maybe not going forward. Also looks so far that you can't buy VC++ 2005 Standard alone. This program may in fact turn out to be a reduction in the availability of free / inexpensive windows development tools.

nBd

 

[ncage]

I haven't tried vs 2005 express but i did try sql server express in one of the betas and it pretty much sucked. To be productive with sql server you really need (enterprize manager & query analyze (old)) or sql server management studio (new). Try right some huge T-SQL/CLR statement with command line would be a major pain. Maybe this wouldn't be a big deal for someone just writing something simple behind a web front end but with any query that is complex its going to be next to impossible. I heard they were suppose to come out with a lite version of managment studio for the express edition but i don't know if this is true or not. I do hope the express edition makes web site hosting cheaper. They are trying to combat MySQL & PostgresSQL but i don't know how they are going to acomplish it this way. Sure MySQL is mostly command like but you can download tools to use it. Also MySQL is a lot simpler compared to SqlServer. Also if your going to have a huge DB then express isn't what you want with a (2GB) limit i think. We shall see how this all pans out.

 

[kamranziadar]

Well free is free even it is repost.

 

[robertpang]

Originally posted by: ncage
I haven't tried vs 2005 express but i did try sql server express in one of the betas and it pretty much sucked. To be productive with sql server you really need (enterprize manager & query analyze (old)) or sql server management studio (new). Try right some huge T-SQL/CLR statement with command line would be a major pain. Maybe this wouldn't be a big deal for someone just writing something simple behind a web front end but with any query that is complex its going to be next to impossible. I heard they were suppose to come out with a lite version of managment studio for the express edition but i don't know if this is true or not. I do hope the express edition makes web site hosting cheaper. They are trying to combat MySQL & PostgresSQL but i don't know how they are going to acomplish it this way. Sure MySQL is mostly command like but you can download tools to use it. Also MySQL is a lot simpler compared to SqlServer. Also if your going to have a huge DB then express isn't what you want with a (2GB) limit i think. We shall see how this all pans out.

Just in case if you are not aware of it. Oracle is also providing a version of its Oracle Database 10g (called Express Edition XE, just like everybody does) free and is currently in beta. You can download it from http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html. The download size is merely 150MB for Windows and it takes less than 5 mins to install and everything will be up and running after that. This Oracle Database 10g Express Edition is not like Oracle Lite but is the same Oracle Database 10g engine but with a smaller footprint. XE comes with a very intuitive, easy-to-use, Web-based HTML DB interface. You don't have to settle for less.