MS starts its activation exploit detection

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: snikt

Originally posted by: Nothinman

i would if a simple Windows Update wouldn't hose the OS...

I've had the same XP install for years, I can't remember the last time an update caused me any problems.

With some of our workstations (XP), when SP3 was installed it screwed something up and the workstations wouldn't boot to the desktop. I forget what the error message was but it did happen on a few machines. On some of the machines we were able to just go to the Repair Console and fix it; other machines weren't so lucky so we had to just reload Windows.

Ahh, yes SP3. What a piece. I installed it on my work machine after installing it on a VM to make sure all was good. It killed my work machine and managed to blow out the partition on the hard drive that had my intranet site on it. Fun times that was.

 

[Nothinman]

Ahh, yes SP3. What a piece. I installed it on my work machine after installing it on a VM to make sure all was good. It killed my work machine and managed to blow out the partition on the hard drive that had my intranet site on it. Fun times that was.

I didn't have any problems with SP3 either. Although I'd say that's your fault for having your intranet site on an XP machine.

 

[zerogear]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I just hate the act of activation, so I bypass it.

Why? It's completely harmless as long as you're legit.

Because I don't want to call MS everytime I build a new system. Which is pretty often. (every 3-4 months)

 

[zerogear]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: zerogear
If you've installed a SLIC BIOs, it shouldn't detect it . Funny thing is, I own 4 license for Vista, I just hate the act of activation, so I bypass it.

What is this?

Basically it is inserting SLIC (Software Licensing Internal Code) with the OEM ID and Table ID into the ACPI Table in the BIOS firmware, and then proceeding to flash it to your BIOS. After you installed this BIOS, all you have to do is add in OEM product key and OEM license file and you'll be activated. However, the replacement of existing ACPI table *may* cause loss of certain features.

So I don't recommend it to people in general, least they blame me for fudging up their computer.

Edit: Not condoning piracy, so please don't ask me how to/where to get files.

 

[Nothinman]

Because I don't want to call MS everytime I build a new system. Which is pretty often. (every 3-4 months)

Well that's your own fault for rebuilding so often and for choosing software that requires activation.

 

[zerogear]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Because I don't want to call MS everytime I build a new system. Which is pretty often. (every 3-4 months)

Well that's your own fault for rebuilding so often and for choosing software that requires activation.

I have no answer to that

But I do have a Linux system... that one doesn't get rebuilt all that often.

 

[Nothinman]

It's difficult to complain about something that you're bringing upon yourself. I can't imagine why you'd have to rebuild a machine every quarter and on top of the pointless expense you know that Windows will require extra work in order to get you up and running again.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Regardless over the argument of whether the time it takes to activate is a major hindrance on your lifestyle, the only ones that can really bitch are the pirates. For a $100 its not worth the time and effort to hack it and get updates, at least to me. My time is worth more than that.

The sad thing is that they'll find a workaround and then they'll be the ones with the simpler setup to maintain again.

they will always be someone out there trying to find the cheap way out.

What I find funny is those who bitch and complain about all this crap that Microsoft makes them go through, yet they find Windows simplier to use and less of a hassle then Linux.

Activation with Microsoft is a major PITA. Don't care who you are. Those who don't agree are just used to it.

I've had to activate 4 machines in the past year. Total time spent 5 minutes. IF that's a royal PITA, I'd hate to hear what you have to think about bathing, brushing your teeth, cooking dinner and working every day. Those activites take more time and energy, if you ask me.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Regardless over the argument of whether the time it takes to activate is a major hindrance on your lifestyle, the only ones that can really bitch are the pirates. For a $100 its not worth the time and effort to hack it and get updates, at least to me. My time is worth more than that.

The sad thing is that they'll find a workaround and then they'll be the ones with the simpler setup to maintain again.

they will always be someone out there trying to find the cheap way out.

What I find funny is those who bitch and complain about all this crap that Microsoft makes them go through, yet they find Windows simplier to use and less of a hassle then Linux.

Activation with Microsoft is a major PITA. Don't care who you are. Those who don't agree are just used to it.

I've had to activate 4 machines in the past year. Total time spent 5 minutes. IF that's a royal PITA, I'd hate to hear what you have to think about bathing, brushing your teeth, cooking dinner and working every day. Those activites take more time and energy, if you ask me.

Consider yourself lucky. There are MANY who have spent a LOT more time and gone through so much bullshit to get it activated.

Sides, I find it a PITA for a software company to have that much control over what I'm using AFTER I purchase the software.

Windows 2000 was never like that. Neither were the previous ones.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: Hacp
Thank god for my 70 dollar student copy lol.

QFMFT on that

 

[zerogear]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
It's difficult to complain about something that you're bringing upon yourself. I can't imagine why you'd have to rebuild a machine every quarter and on top of the pointless expense you know that Windows will require extra work in order to get you up and running again.

I wasn't complaining, I was just stating that there is a workaround for the 'activation exploit detection'. Its just something I will need to do since I do rebuild so often.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: zerogear

Originally posted by: Nothinman
It's difficult to complain about something that you're bringing upon yourself. I can't imagine why you'd have to rebuild a machine every quarter and on top of the pointless expense you know that Windows will require extra work in order to get you up and running again.

I wasn't complaining, I was just stating that there is a workaround for the 'activation exploit detection'. Its just something I will need to do since I do rebuild so often.

What if you didn't need to have a workaround....

What if you didn't have to activate your software....

What if as soon as you received your software, you install it and not have to do anything else but use it?

Almost sounds like a fantasy now in the world of Windows....

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: Hacp
Thank god for my 70 dollar student copy lol.

QFMFT on that

Thank god for my FREE copy of Linux

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: zerogear

Originally posted by: Nothinman
It's difficult to complain about something that you're bringing upon yourself. I can't imagine why you'd have to rebuild a machine every quarter and on top of the pointless expense you know that Windows will require extra work in order to get you up and running again.

I wasn't complaining, I was just stating that there is a workaround for the 'activation exploit detection'. Its just something I will need to do since I do rebuild so often.

What if you didn't need to have a workaround....

What if you didn't have to activate your software....

What if as soon as you received your software, you install it and not have to do anything else but use it?

Almost sounds like a fantasy now in the world of Windows....

exactly. Basically I can't always depend on the fact that there is a internet connection around. When I go travelling on peace corp or whatnot, and something gets corupted, I want to be able to restore my computer autonomously rather than finding a phone nearby (if one exists) just to dial long distance to get it validated by MS Tech support or get a dial up connection. There are definitely advantages to self-contained units.

 

[4537256]

well regardless, the particular hack i use is automated after install, it passes every legit test and updates great, like i said i paid my premium and i certainly dont condone piracy. i dont spread it and in fact i use my copy of Vista according to EULA except maybe not activating part. however for me it is really nice to beable to actually use what i paid for, regardless of what excuse i want to reinstall, or change hardware. most of the time i'll reinstall just for the heck of it and when i had XP, i had to phisically phone in, listen to the machine, type in my serial, then when it was voided due to overuse. i had to talk to a person who then easily just handed me a serial to activate all of which took a solid 20 minutes i'd say. an annoyance in the least. dont want that again.

however the real dream is having a windows install that never corrupted. i know some do and howdiedoodie for you. drivers and usage preference play a large role and some are just lucky they either never notice issues, can ignore them or have the hardware that just happens to have well written drivers or what have you, still no excuse to tell others who purchased windows that they shouldnt use a hack cause its their own fault they upgrade too much or whatever. Enthusiasts are too small of a percentage for MS to care about