MS Office 365 versus MS Office 2013

[mikeymikec]

Has anyone here tried both versions?

I've seen both at a glance and they hardly look any different. Is it just a case of different licensing models?

Does O365 allow the user to save documents on their computer like any previous version does, or does it try to make it more difficult (ie. MS trying to steer people towards their cloud)?

 

[Mushkins]

It's literally the same program.

Office 2013 is a standalone license for the desktop software like previous versions
Office365 is a subscription license that includes the full desktop software, access to cloud/web based "lite" versions of the software, as well as hosted exchange email, skydrive and a whole bunch of other features.

All versions can save documents to your local disk, even the cloud/web apps. However the default location is no longer my documents but your Skydrive folder.

 

[mikeymikec]

However the default location is no longer my documents but your Skydrive folder.

Is that the same for both 365/2013?

 

[blurredvision]

Is that the same for both 365/2013?

Yes.

EDIT: Just so you're aware, the default save location can be changed to any location you want.

 

[ringtail]

I’ve experienced a problem with Office 365 on Windows 7.
WOULD NOT BUY AGAIN!

Its installation doesn’t place all the folders (“directories&#8221 onto your hard drive that the “regular” standalone Office installation puts there.

I use MySQL a lot and one of its real nice features is MySQL for Excel.

The problem I experience is that when either installing or updating MySQL, it doesn’t recognize that Excel 2013 is present (which it is). MySQL installer has to see Excel 2013 in order to install the MySQL for Excel feature.

So MySQL refuses to install MySQL for Excel, although I want it and can use it.MySQL must be a woman.
I think it’s due to not detecting all the "normal" Office folders and their contents on the hdd.

I’ve learned a trick to force installation of the MySQL for Excel feature, but it’s not so great because it only works for original installation of the MySQL executable. Whenever MySQL updates, which is pretty often, MySQL for Excel still won't update.


Only way to get the update for MySQL for Excel is to totally uninstall ALL of MySQL’s features (server, mysqladmin, workbench, whole 9 yards) and then reinstall everything from the new executable that has the new version of MySQL for Excel. This is a PITA and a time waster. Even then, MySQL for Excel still won’t install unless you do the hack, because the MySQL installer, again, doesn't think Excel is there, but it is).

Summary: I use MySQL to earn real money and in that regard having Office 365 is a PITA. If I hold still in one location long enough to concentrate on fixing the problem, I’ll put in regular Office instead of Office 365.



Repeat:
WOULD NOT BUY AGAIN!

 

[debian0001]

Well.... does MySQL support Excel 2013?

 

[ringtail]

Well.... does MySQL support Excel 2013?

Yes, MySQL integrates into Excel. It works great!
http://www.mysql.com/why-mysql/windows/excel/

 

[Mushkins]

I’ve experienced a problem with Office 365 on Windows 7.
WOULD NOT BUY AGAIN!

Its installation doesn’t place all the folders (“directories”) onto your hard drive that the “regular” standalone Office installation puts there.

I use MySQL a lot and one of its real nice features is MySQL for Excel.

The problem I experience is that when either installing or updating MySQL, it doesn’t recognize that Excel 2013 is present (which it is). MySQL installer has to see Excel 2013 in order to install the MySQL for Excel feature.

So MySQL refuses to install MySQL for Excel, although I want it and can use it.MySQL must be a woman.
I think it’s due to not detecting all the "normal" Office folders and their contents on the hdd.

I’ve learned a trick to force installation of the MySQL for Excel feature, but it’s not so great because it only works for original installation of the MySQL executable. Whenever MySQL updates, which is pretty often, MySQL for Excel still won't update.


Only way to get the update for MySQL for Excel is to totally uninstall ALL of MySQL’s features (server, mysqladmin, workbench, whole 9 yards) and then reinstall everything from the new executable that has the new version of MySQL for Excel. This is a PITA and a time waster. Even then, MySQL for Excel still won’t install unless you do the hack, because the MySQL installer, again, doesn't think Excel is there, but it is).

Summary: I use MySQL to earn real money and in that regard having Office 365 is a PITA. If I hold still in one location long enough to concentrate on fixing the problem, I’ll put in regular Office instead of Office 365.



Repeat:
WOULD NOT BUY AGAIN!

This is, in all honesty, a MYSQL problem and not an Office365 problem. I'd imagine it would have the same issue if you installed Excel in a nonstandard location regardless of version.

MYSQL either needs to update their installer to take into account autodetecting an Office365 installation or simply give the user a "we did not detect Excel installed, please browse to your Excel installation directory" prompt.

Poorly designed open source software isn't microsoft's fault.

 

[XiandreX]

Office 365 gives you all the updates/patches and the likes. Office 2013 does not give you the updates/patches. That for me is a pretty big difference.

Adobe is doing the same thing, in fact they are moving to cloud only.
I also like the additional mobile apps/cloud storage and portal controls in the office 365.

 

[Mushkins]

Office 365 gives you all the updates/patches and the likes. Office 2013 does not give you the updates/patches. That for me is a pretty big difference.

Adobe is doing the same thing, in fact they are moving to cloud only.
I also like the additional mobile apps/cloud storage and portal controls in the office 365.

Bwuh? I have a little icon in my taskbar as we speak letting me know updates are available for Office 2013 and that I should download them. This is a full standalone desktop installation, not 365.

Both versions absolutely come with patches and updates.

 

[mikeymikec]

I'm unsure as to whether Office 2013 (retail) allows the licence to be moved from one computer to another. A lot of sources are saying that in March this year, Microsoft changed its mind back to the old rules whereby a retail user can remove the copy of Office from his old computer and put it on the new one, but to me this says otherwise:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/products/microsoft-software-license-agreement-FX103576343.aspx

 

[sweenish]

Office 365 gives you all the updates/patches and the likes. Office 2013 does not give you the updates/patches. That for me is a pretty big difference.

Adobe is doing the same thing, in fact they are moving to cloud only.
I also like the additional mobile apps/cloud storage and portal controls in the office 365.

That's about as wrong as can be.

Both versions patch and update. The difference is that as long your subscription is up to date, you'll always have the latest major version of office. So when Office 2015 or whatever rolls out, subscribing members will just get it whereas desktop only licenses will have to put down some more cash.

 

[Chiefcrowe]

I was wondering, do you think the new version of Office with 365 will appear as a windows update if you have a current subscription or will you have to download the installation files and install manually?

That's about as wrong as can be.

Both versions patch and update. The difference is that as long your subscription is up to date, you'll always have the latest major version of office. So when Office 2015 or whatever rolls out, subscribing members will just get it whereas desktop only licenses will have to put down some more cash.

 

[sweenish]

I imagine it would appear in the windows store (or windows update) and the installer would automatically clean up previous versions for you.

But your guess is as good as mine.

 

[dderolph]

Both versions patch and update. The difference is that as long your subscription is up to date, you'll always have the latest major version of office. So when Office 2015 or whatever rolls out, subscribing members will just get it whereas desktop only licenses will have to put down some more cash.

If I understand you correctly, I disagree. I have Office 2007 installed on my Windows 7 desktop PC and my Windows 8 laptop and I get updates for Office 2007 practically every time I get Windows updates.

 

[XiandreX]

That's about as wrong as can be.

Both versions patch and update. The difference is that as long your subscription is up to date, you'll always have the latest major version of office. So when Office 2015 or whatever rolls out, subscribing members will just get it whereas desktop only licenses will have to put down some more cash.

I worded what I said incorrectly. In the push for Office 365 MS here in South Africa has been pushing the lack of updates for the standalone.
To be more precise.
Up until now they have been running on a 3 year product cycle.
Their goal is to push that to a one year product cycle with major packs released either quarterly or quicker.
So for instance they might release a huge font update. According to them the standalone won't be to get those updates whereas the 365 perpetual will.