MoxiDVR

[DigitalCancer]

I came across this as I'm currently using Comcast and I HATE their HD DVR receiver...so slow and ancient looking.

Anyway, I thought about Tivo...but they charge fee's now (what happened to the lifetime sub you could get, like...$600 and you're done with it)

So I came across Moxi, never heard of'em.

The unit is sexy though and they have payment arrangements, which is cool, and no fee's besides buying the unit.

$799 OR x4 payments of $200 OR 20 payments of $40

Any insight on this would be nice, and i'm posting in this thread for those of you who are looking for what seems to be a decent deal on an HD DVR unit.

Mods feel free to move if you think this is the wrong forum of course. ^_^

EDIT: forgot the LINK!

Title edited
Moderator allisolm

 

[TechnoSaint]

Moxi got rave reviews at CES shows. The new $40 a month plan makes it a lot more attainable than the one time huge balloon payment that used to be the only option. I think they can give TiVo a run for their money. I have 3 TiVo machines, but still have a ReplayTV that I bought when it first came out alongwith the lifetime membership, and i still enjoy its features more than the TiVos, especially the commercial skip feature.

 

[allisolm]

TiVo still has lifetime service and a HD TiVo with it is $650. Link

edit: Oops! Didn't realize it was https. Fixed the link.

 

[DigitalCancer]

Originally posted by: TechnoSaint
Moxi got rave reviews at CES shows. The new $40 a month plan makes it a lot more attainable than the one time huge balloon payment that used to be the only option. I think they can give TiVo a run for their money. I have 3 TiVo machines, but still have a ReplayTV that I bought when it first came out alongwith the lifetime membership, and i still enjoy its features more than the TiVos, especially the commercial skip feature.

I appreciate the knowledge. ^_^ I am debating really hard on biting on this or not, $30/month wouldn't be bad...even the x4 $200 payments, prolly the option i'd go for anyway.

this would save me roughly $15/month (I think that's what the HD DVR rental is through ComCast)

Originally posted by: allisolm
TiVo still has lifetime service and a HD TiVo with it is $650. https://www3.tivo.com/store/bo...ed-tivohd&type=renewed">link</a>

So they do...I didn't think they offered that plan anymore since its not really advertised when I see the commericals.

Tivo HD DVR: $299.99
Lifetime Service: $399
Total: $698.99

 

[TwiceOver]

Looks nice enough. Still like my TiVo though.

 

[ir0nw0lf]

Originally posted by: allisolm
TiVo still has lifetime service and a HD TiVo with it is $650. https://www3.tivo.com/store/bo...ed-tivohd&type=renewed">link</a>

Fixed link: Link

 

[vi edit]

I've seen TivoHD deals going for under $200(I bought mine here essentially brand new for $170). At $13 a month it'd take almost 4 years to break even on the purchase price of that device. Heck at that point I could buy a decent $700 computer w/ Vista Media Center a couple tuner cards and a media extender and get far more functionality out of it.

Not trying to thread crap....I just don't see the value.

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: vi edit
I've seen TivoHD deals going for under $200(I bought mine here essentially brand new for $170). At $13 a month it'd take almost 4 years to break even on the purchase price of that device. Heck at that point I could buy a decent $700 computer w/ Vista Media Center a couple tuner cards and a media extender and get far more functionality out of it.

Not trying to thread crap....I just don't see the value.

Same here. And if you don't want to go lifetime or $13 mo, you can do yearly for $130 - about $10.80 a month. My other TiVo is $6.95 a month. Although I did invest in an extra hard drive so I can record forever without runing out of room. I admit to being a TiVoholic.

 

[erwos]

This isn't a hot deal for two reasons:
1. OP is wrong, TiVo is cheaper with lifetime.
2. This is the regular retail price for the Moxi.

 

[jkresh]

if you have a media center pc, then the hauppauge hd pvr might be worth looking at (I believe it is around $200 now), can only record 1 channel at a time, but service is free and it is easy to archive stuff (also if you go with sage then extenders are relatively cheap and will let you watch shows on any tv you have an extender connected to).

 

[dman]

Originally posted by: jkresh
if you have a media center pc, then the hauppauge hd pvr might be worth looking at (I believe it is around $200 now), can only record 1 channel at a time, but service is free and it is easy to archive stuff (also if you go with sage then extenders are relatively cheap and will let you watch shows on any tv you have an extender connected to).

I saw the flyer for Moxi a few months back. I was thinking it wouldn't be all that hard to build your own (low power/decent performing) rig for about that price using Vista or W7. There'd be some tradeoffs in UI and such, but basically it didn't seem like a hot deal to me.

Dual tuner HVR (PCIe) Card for $149

A Core2 or Athlon X2 w/ a fairly inexpensive video card would output HighDef OK and use limited power (probably more than an appliance would though).

Anyway, vista h.p. is $99 so $799-250 = 549 to put the general hardware pieces together. That'd go pretty far.

 

[DigitalCancer]

Originally posted by: dman

Originally posted by: jkresh
if you have a media center pc, then the hauppauge hd pvr might be worth looking at (I believe it is around $200 now), can only record 1 channel at a time, but service is free and it is easy to archive stuff (also if you go with sage then extenders are relatively cheap and will let you watch shows on any tv you have an extender connected to).

I saw the flyer for Moxi a few months back. I was thinking it wouldn't be all that hard to build your own (low power/decent performing) rig for about that price using Vista or W7. There'd be some tradeoffs in UI and such, but basically it didn't seem like a hot deal to me.

Dual tuner HVR (PCIe) Card for $149

A Core2 or Athlon X2 w/ a fairly inexpensive video card would output HighDef OK and use limited power (probably more than an appliance would though).

Anyway, vista h.p. is $99 so $799-250 = 549 to put the general hardware pieces together. That'd go pretty far.


Very true. I run a little box, Pentium M 940 - 2GB ram - x2 160GB drives - DVDR - HD2600 Pro. No tuner card, but i'm sure it would suffice if I was to pick one up for DVR'ing purposes.

 

[ozone13]

Originally posted by: dman

Originally posted by: jkresh
if you have a media center pc, then the hauppauge hd pvr might be worth looking at (I believe it is around $200 now), can only record 1 channel at a time, but service is free and it is easy to archive stuff (also if you go with sage then extenders are relatively cheap and will let you watch shows on any tv you have an extender connected to).

I saw the flyer for Moxi a few months back. I was thinking it wouldn't be all that hard to build your own (low power/decent performing) rig for about that price using Vista or W7. There'd be some tradeoffs in UI and such, but basically it didn't seem like a hot deal to me.

Dual tuner HVR (PCIe) Card for $149

A Core2 or Athlon X2 w/ a fairly inexpensive video card would output HighDef OK and use limited power (probably more than an appliance would though).

Anyway, vista h.p. is $99 so $799-250 = 549 to put the general hardware pieces together. That'd go pretty far.

Yeah, I had a media center at one point, but I HATED having multiple pcs running. As years go on, I've found I enjoy lower utility bills and lower noise rather than sheer price savings.....hence I now have 3 TiVos, and only one pc I leave running all the time.

Edit: I should also mention how NICE it is having a company take care of all issues that arise from the unit (software-wise). Free updates and all without me having to jack around with it. I'm very knowledgable in computers, but that doesn't mean I LIKE dinkering around with every single thing that could go wrong on a pc. I like plugging it in and just having it WORK the way its intended. Having a seperate media center definatly requires more maintenance.

With all that being said, I do feel its necessary to point out that you can get TiVo (limited) functionality in a media center now: http://www.nero.com/enu/liquidtv-introduction.html

 

[GTFan]

Originally posted by: allisolm
TiVo still has lifetime service and a HD TiVo with it is $650. Link

Yup, the Moxi is an unproven box and more expensive than a Tivo HD w/lifetime even after a 1TB drive upgrade (the Moxi has a 500GB drive). Some members in the Tivo Community forums have bought Moxis and then reported occasional unexpected reboots, which is a no-no for DVRs. So for right now, no thanks.
But I am happy that Tivo will start to feel the heat of competition, and hope that upcoming tru2way cable DVRs will come on the market as well.

Disclaimer: I have a Tivo HD but am not a fanboy - I just want more choices for Cablecard DVRs.

 

[GTFan]

Originally posted by: dman

Originally posted by: jkresh
if you have a media center pc, then the hauppauge hd pvr might be worth looking at (I believe it is around $200 now), can only record 1 channel at a time, but service is free and it is easy to archive stuff (also if you go with sage then extenders are relatively cheap and will let you watch shows on any tv you have an extender connected to).

I saw the flyer for Moxi a few months back. I was thinking it wouldn't be all that hard to build your own (low power/decent performing) rig for about that price using Vista or W7. There'd be some tradeoffs in UI and such, but basically it didn't seem like a hot deal to me.

Dual tuner HVR (PCIe) Card for $149

A Core2 or Athlon X2 w/ a fairly inexpensive video card would output HighDef OK and use limited power (probably more than an appliance would though).

Anyway, vista h.p. is $99 so $799-250 = 549 to put the general hardware pieces together. That'd go pretty far.

Apples and oranges - your PC build won't record protected cable channels. You either have to buy the HD PVR (and rent a dedicated box from the cableCo) or you have to buy overpriced ATI Digital Cable Tuners and get Cablecards.

For OTA or clear QAM recording, sure, there's tons of choices and HTPCs own. But not for cable.

 

[TechFarmer]

Moxi can't record free over-the-air HD using an antenna. TiVo can. To use Moxi, you have to pay a cable company a monthly fee and you don't with TiVo.

Moxi is not a hot deal. Plus, the Engadget HD review was not overly flattering: http://www.engadgethd.com/2009...r-initial-impressions/