Moving to Somalia!

[Rill22]

Why would you support the anti-women fundamentalist Islam BS and wear that garbage?

I don't necessarily think that working in the country entails supporting "anti-women fundamentalist Islam". These are kids that I'll be working with. Females included. If anything, teaching female students and giving them an education would be working against what you're suggesting.

And hey, it's the desert. I'm pretty sure my lovely flowing muumuu will create superb airflow.

 

[zinfamous]

Why would you support the anti-women fundamentalist Islam BS and wear that garbage?

to be fair, being over there, it's better than getting killed.

you think she should "martyr" herself as an anti-fundy statement?

 

[GTaudiophile]

I heard the news last week from SY!

Congrats, K!

I think it's a good decision...but I also think some weapons training is in order.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Actually, the main meat is goat. Camel is reserved for special occasions, and it's supposed to be delicious. Go figure.

I decided to go for it because the school itself is pretty awesome, started by a NY banker that decided Wall Street wasn't for him. It gives good kids a chance they otherwise wouldn't have. The start date is August 1, but I'll most likely show up a little bit early to get my feet on the ground. I'll be teaching some English, but I'm more excited about the computer classes I'll be teaching, which I think will be the bulk majority of my work.

Will you survive as a vegetarian?

 

[BoomerD]

Looks like a wonderful place...

http://www.narayanmahon.com/somaliland.html

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/arti...ab terrorist attacks after Bin Laden's demise

"Al Shabaab could launch terrorist attacks on Somaliland territories after the demise of their leader Osama Bin Laden, who was killed by U.S. Special Forces in an operation in Pakistan, a Somaliland minister warned on Sunday."


http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and...-advice-by-country/sub-saharan-africa/somalia


http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_933.html

 

[SP33Demon]

Better look into that anti-rape IUD. And learn how to shoot a gun and wield a knife/mace.

 

[Rill22]

I think it's a good decision...but I also think some weapons training is in order.

Planning on possibly going shooting with my brother before departure. Never hurts to know how to handle yourself, right?

Will you survive as a vegetarian?

Very good question. Cabbage, cabbage, and more cabbage! I'm hoping that the markets have okra, considering it originated in Africa. I could live off that stuff alone, it's delicious.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Why would you support the anti-women fundamentalist Islam BS and wear that garbage?

Because by being there, educating girls in the ways of the world and being an exemplary role of model of a liberated, free woman is the greatest afront to fundi Islam one can imagine?

 

[GTaudiophile]

Planning on possibly going shooting with my brother before departure. Never hurts to know how to handle yourself, right?



Very good question. Cabbage, cabbage, and more cabbage! I'm hoping that the markets have okra, considering it originated in Africa. I could live off that stuff alone, it's delicious.

Exactly. Go with your brother.

Make sure you can practice with something that has some kick. I would also get some lessons on weapons cleaning.

 

[Born2bwire]

Camel steak. Camel milk. Mmmm.

Camel is pretty tasty.

 

[Rill22]

Looks like a wonderful place...

http://www.narayanmahon.com/somaliland.html

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/arti...ab terrorist attacks after Bin Laden's demise

"Al Shabaab could launch terrorist attacks on Somaliland territories after the demise of their leader Osama Bin Laden, who was killed by U.S. Special Forces in an operation in Pakistan, a Somaliland minister warned on Sunday."


http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and...-advice-by-country/sub-saharan-africa/somalia


http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_933.html

I know, I know. I've done the research. I've exhausted the info that exists within the interweb's tubes. I'm keeping in mind though that what is reported in the news and what you read about is the worst of the nation, and most of it is in regards to Somalia. I've quizzed the staff that currently works there, and I trust their first-hand experience and information over what is being reported in Mogadishu.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Better look into that anti-rape IUD. And learn how to shoot a gun and wield a knife/mace.

I believe this is what you are referring to.

Invented by someone in South Africa.

 

[OCGuy]

Because by being there, educating girls in the ways of the world and being an exemplary role of model of a liberated, free woman is the greatest afront to fundi Islam one can imagine?

How is her being there, as a liberated modern Western woman, going to teach them anything?

She will be reading out of the fundy islamic textbooks. It isn't like she can whisper to the girls "Get out of this hell-hole. Women are truly equal to men...blah blah blah"

We need to isolate the misogynistic fundies as much as possible.

 

[SP33Demon]

http://somalilandpress.com/somaliland-police-reveal-2010-annual-crimes-surge-in-rape-murder-19050

The latest figures comparing a 12 month period from November 2009 to November 2010 show surge in crimes in Somaliland’s urban towns. There have been significant rise in the number of reported sexual offences, murder and road fatalities.

There has been 5.2 per cent increase in murder cases from last year figures; 64 people were arrested for the 81 cases reported for murder, 17 cases have not been solved.

There has been sharp surge in sexual related crimes (rape), 186 cases were reported, an increase of 19.24 per cent.
...

The latest figures show the rise in crime in Somaliland’s urban towns in particular the worrying levels of rape, road fatality and murder. Unless the new regime tackles the ongoing problems, Somaliland could become the new Johannesburg of the Horn.

Like I said, invest in the anti-rape IUD and carry mace + handgun at all times. For the most part, you are the law there as a woman on her own.

 

[Rill22]

How is her being there, as a liberated modern Western woman, going to teach them anything?

She will be reading out of the fundy islamic textbooks. It isn't like she can whisper to the girls "Get out of this hell-hole. Women are truly equal to men...blah blah blah"

You misunderstand the school I'm working in. The school was started by an American, and staffed by mostly native English speakers (Americans, Brits, Aussies), with a couple other nations for good measure. We are teaching Somali children, but we are not teaching from Islamic textbooks.

We are teaching the same classes that kids here in the US learn. English, Math, Science, Computer Skills...

We are giving the boys and girls an education, and teaching the girls that they can be successful in whatever they choose to do. I would not willingly move to a place in order to teach other females principles that belittle my intelligence as well as theirs.

 

[OCGuy]

You misunderstand the school I'm working in. The school was started by an American, and staffed by mostly native English speakers (Americans, Brits, Aussies), with a couple other nations for good measure. We are teaching Somali children, but we are not teaching from Islamic textbooks.

We are teaching the same classes that kids here in the US learn. English, Math, Science, Computer Skills...

We are giving the boys and girls an education, and teaching the girls that they can be successful in whatever they choose to do. I would not willingly move to a place in order to teach other females principles that belittle my intelligence as well as theirs.

You validating stone-age Islamic misogyny by being there and covering yourself is belittling your intelligence.

I understand it is about the children, not the idiots in "government" there that set the Islamic law and culture...but those children will soon be the same bat-shit crazy islamists that their parents are.

There are so many under-educated inner city children in my country, I just can't imagine wasting precious teaching resources like you on a ass-backwards part of the world like that.

 

[GTaudiophile]

You validating stone-age Islamic misogyny by being there and covering yourself is belittling your intelligence.

I understand it is about the children, not the idiots in "government" there that set the Islamic law and culture...but those children will soon be the same bat-shit crazy islamists that their parents are.

There are so many under-educated inner city children in my country, I just can't imagine wasting precious teaching resources like you on a ass-backwards part of the world like that.

There was a time they said the same thing about Egypt.

But one thing the Cairo protests proved is that when educated women get on board, countries change for the better.

You got to start somewhere.

 

[Rill22]

You validating stone-age Islamic misogyny by being there and covering yourself is belittling your intelligence.

I understand it is about the children, not the idiots in "government" there that set the Islamic law and culture...but those children will soon be the same bat-shit crazy islamists that their parents are.

There are so many under-educated inner city children in my country, I just can't imagine wasting precious teaching resources like you on a ass-backwards part of the world like that.

Look, I may not agree with the concept of having to wear a hijab, but that's not exactly the most important battle I'm choosing to address.

I feel very poorly for those kids that they have already been dismissed by people because they happen to be Muslim. That in itself does not make them bad people. People can be Muslim without being "bat-shit crazy islamists".

I truly feel that the key to the development of a nation - ANY nation, first world or not - is through education. And you're turning up your nose at someone's effort to do that.

 

[Kadarin]

While your idealism is commendable, I think you're crazy. Also, I find it incredibly disgusting that women over there are forced to wear the hijab.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I would put myself in danger if it were really awesome or really high paying. This doesn't sound like either of those.

Cant use that money if you're dead.

A friend of mine was offered a security job for a VIP in Mexico. $300,000 for the year. Then the guy who offered him the job and who was head of the detail and the main anti-kidnapping expert was ironically kidnapped. He turned the job down LoL.

 

[sunzt]

Look, I may not agree with the concept of having to wear a hijab, but that's not exactly the most important battle I'm choosing to address.

I feel very poorly for those kids that they have already been dismissed by people because they happen to be Muslim. That in itself does not make them bad people. People can be Muslim without being "bat-shit crazy islamists".

I truly feel that the key to the development of a nation - ANY nation, first world or not - is through education. And you're turning up your nose at someone's effort to do that.

lol it's just OCguy, don't take him too seriously. Good luck on your adventure, hope things work out well for you.

 

[Rill22]

While your idealism is commendable, I think you're crazy. Also, I find it incredibly disgusting that women over there are forced to wear the hijab.

I'm an idealist. Absolutely.

But just like GTaudiophile said, you have to start somewhere. Maybe an idealist is the catalyst it takes to force change over time. I don't agree with having to wear the hijab, but come on, it's a progress. Rosa Parks had to refuse to give up her seat long before blacks were allowed to vote.

You can't have every aspect of people's mindsets change in one instant.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I would also consider an implanted GPS device if such a thing exists...

 

[BoomerD]

Sounds like your mind is made up about this...so good luck.

You're "a better man than I" if you can do this knowing the hazards.

 

[OCGuy]

I'm an idealist. Absolutely.

But just like GTaudiophile said, you have to start somewhere. Maybe an idealist is the catalyst it takes to force change over time. I don't agree with having to wear the hijab, but come on, it's a progress. Rosa Parks had to refuse to give up her seat long before blacks were allowed to vote.

You can't have every aspect of people's mindsets change in one instant.

Are there not under educated children in Denver that could use your help, to make this country better?

Or is it all about the $$$$$$, which I guess I can understand.