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Movie sequels that were better than the original

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Originally posted by: gsellis
Major League was better.

The undoubted, undisputed sequel winner was Star Trek 2 > Star Trek 1.
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The question is does it qualify since it is part of a series?

Wrath of Kahn does make up for the mind numbingly horrible suck that was ST 1.
 
Originally posted by: E equals MC2
Toy Story 2
Shrek 2
X-men 2 (1 was just so blah, 2 was highly entertaining! Nightcrawler's white house infiltration is one of the best openings)
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Toy Story 1 was a classic. Fail. Shrek 2 is debatable. Agree on X-Men.

I will add my opinion:

Debatable: Rush Hour 2

Definitely: Bad Boys II
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
It's pretty rare these days for a sequel to surpass it's predecessor, especially now since it seems like any movie that does well or becomes popular usually gets a sequel that doesn't come close to the original. There are some 2nd-parters that I do think are either more watchable or simply better then the first, most of which are B-movies where it's not really that hard to be the best however. These are my candidates, pretty much off the top of my head:

Aliens > Alien

Aliens > Alien
Tremors 2: Aftershocks > Tremors
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umm no, you fail
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Oh come on! Aliens was great with the marines, guns, and technology! Same with Tremors, the remote controlled car-bombs were great, not to mention it had so many funny moments throughout.
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Alien was a suspense film. Aliens was an action film.
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yes and it was better then 2

in terms of the Alien Series

3 > 1 > 2 > 4

and in no was was tremors 2 better then the 1st one, 2nd was better then the 3rd but not the first
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Wait, you just said that Alien 3 is the best one? That immediately bans you from discussing this further. Well that and the fact that you actually watched Tremors 3.
 
I disagree with all of the OP's choices.
In general, movie buffs/critics agree that the best sequels are:
Godfather 2
Empire Strikes Back
Road Warrior
and maybe Wrath of Khan
 
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
It's pretty rare these days for a sequel to surpass it's predecessor, especially now since it seems like any movie that does well or becomes popular usually gets a sequel that doesn't come close to the original. There are some 2nd-parters that I do think are either more watchable or simply better then the first, most of which are B-movies where it's not really that hard to be the best however. These are my candidates, pretty much off the top of my head:

Aliens > Alien
American Pie 2 > American Pie
Escape from L.A. > Escape from N.Y.
Die Hard With a Vengeance > ALL Die Hards
Kill Bill Vol. 2 > Kill Bill Vol. 1
Major League 2 > Major League
Short Circuit 2 > Short Circuit
Tremors 2: Aftershocks > Tremors
Under Siege 2: Dark Territory > Under Siege
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The only arguable one in that list is Aliens vs. Alien which I'd submit as incomparable since they are vastly different movies in style and content.

The rest....no. NO.
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with K1052 on this
 
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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Aliens > Alien
American Pie 2 > American Pie NO
Escape from L.A. > Escape from N.Y. NO
Die Hard With a Vengeance > ALL Die Hards NO (good but not better than 1
Kill Bill Vol. 2 > Kill Bill Vol. 1 Not a sequel
Major League 2 > Major League Oh hell NO.
Short Circuit 2 > Short Circuit Both were terrible, but 1 was better.
Tremors 2: Aftershocks > Tremors Are you high?
Under Siege 2: Dark Territory > Under Siege Wow. No.
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
your under seige one I have to strongly disagree with. part 2 was lame as hell compared to part 1.

american pie is wrong as well, part 1 is the best in the series by far. die hard is also questionable.

and while all the bourne movies were good, I liked part 3 the best.
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come on! this is too easy. the point of American Pie is boobs. those movies have no other merit past that. the boobs in 1 far outclass those in 2. Shannon Elizabeth already got naked... Can't out-boob that one.
 
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: apac
Rambo: First Blood Part 2
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wrong. on many levels. first blood was a movie that should have never had sequels.
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I totally agree. First Blood was a great movie. All the Rambo sequels sucked, defiled the original, and should never have been made.
 
Originally posted by: manowar821
Terminator 2: Judgment day > The Terminator
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Terminator 2 was just so.... campy. Playing "Bad to the Bone" while Arnold dons his sunglasses. So many of his catch phrases from T1 reused to comic effect. I submit that T2, while an amusing action movie, is incomprable to T1.

Why? T1 was a serious (as serious as the subject matter can allow) take on the story line, sans any comic relief. An unstoppable killing machine from the future is after you! Thats it. No comedic relief, because its not supposed to be funny. Its supposed to be scary and suspenseful, which it was. T2, obviously wasn't going for suspense/thriller, but action/comedy (with some real cool special effects).

 
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
It's pretty rare these days for a sequel to surpass it's predecessor, especially now since it seems like any movie that does well or becomes popular usually gets a sequel that doesn't come close to the original. There are some 2nd-parters that I do think are either more watchable or simply better then the first, most of which are B-movies where it's not really that hard to be the best however. These are my candidates, pretty much off the top of my head:
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Aliens > Alien
Two entirely different types of movie...can't say one was better than the other.

American Pie 2 > American Pie
Disagree, but not all that big of a deal.

Escape from L.A. > Escape from N.Y.
You have GOT to be kidding me???!!! Escape from LA was complete and utter CRAP...you couldn't pay me enough to watch it again.

Die Hard With a Vengeance > ALL Die Hards
Definitely better than 2, but then almost everything is. Other than that, it's a tossup.

Major League 2 > Major League
Are you freaking kidding me???!!! 2 was a total waste of film.

Short Circuit 2 > Short Circuit
Just die now. Right now. Without hesitation, you must die.

Under Siege 2: Dark Territory > Under Siege
No, on second thought, death is too good for you. You need to be tortured for the rest of eternity. Most importantly you need to be kept from EVER seeing a movie again, because you have absolutely no tasted whatsoever.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: apac
Rambo: First Blood Part 2
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wrong. on many levels. first blood was a movie that should have never had sequels.
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I totally agree. First Blood was a great movie. All the Rambo sequels sucked, defiled the original, and should never have been made.
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Even the sweetness that will be Rambo IV!?!

Just kidding, its gonna be crap. First Blood!
 
Originally posted by: E equals MC2
Toy Story 2
Shrek 2
X-men 2 (1 was just so blah, 2 was highly entertaining! Nightcrawler's white house infiltration is one of the best openings)
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Didn't much like Shrek 2 really. It was ok, but nothing compared to the first.
 
Originally posted by: andy9o
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: apac
Rambo: First Blood Part 2
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wrong. on many levels. first blood was a movie that should have never had sequels.
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I totally agree. First Blood was a great movie. All the Rambo sequels sucked, defiled the original, and should never have been made.
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Even the sweetness that will be Rambo IV!?!

Just kidding, its gonna be crap. First Blood!
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Eh, I don't know. Rocky Balboa was actually pretty good, and the previews for John Rambo look interesting enough anyways. I'll go see it unless I hear disastrous reviews beforehand.
 
Originally posted by: Slick5150
The Bourne Supremacy (or Ultimatum) > The Bourne Identity
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Unfortunately the shakey cam ruined it utterly, making parts 2 and 3 unwatchable. So it really doesn't matter how good the plot was, or anything else.
 
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