Mr.IncrediblyBored
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Despite the fact that McLarens have crashed in excess of 175MPH with the drivers walking away...how much do you wanna bet that if any made it over to North America that the authorities would have disallowed the stock McLaren as not roadworthy and forced McLaren to slap a bumper on that thing
EDIT: By the way...back in high school I went on a week's trip to Queen's University to study about their solar-powered cars. Not to mention that the female engineer showing us high schoolers around was hot (me and my friends quickly befriended her ) but she showed us all about manufacturing carbon fibre bodies. It is apparently extremely difficult to deal with but the end result was a body that was really sturdy. One of their solar-powered cars got blown off the highway at 100 km/h by a sudden gust of wind and their driver too just walked away without any scratches. Kinda makes you think of metal and plastic bodies are all they're cracked up to be. The carbon fibre bodies are a right-off after accidents but at least the drivers aren't!
-GL
EDIT: By the way...back in high school I went on a week's trip to Queen's University to study about their solar-powered cars. Not to mention that the female engineer showing us high schoolers around was hot (me and my friends quickly befriended her
) but she showed us all about manufacturing carbon fibre bodies. It is apparently extremely difficult to deal with but the end result was a body that was really sturdy. One of their solar-powered cars got blown off the highway at 100 km/h by a sudden gust of wind and their driver too just walked away without any scratches. Kinda makes you think of metal and plastic bodies are all they're cracked up to be. The carbon fibre bodies are a right-off after accidents but at least the drivers aren't!-GL
NFS4
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- Oct 9, 1999
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<< how much do you wanna bet that if any made it over to North America that the authorities would have disallowed the stock McLaren as not roadworthy and forced McLaren to slap a bumper on that thing >>
Sorta...there's a company in the uppereast portion of the US that does conversions for US legality. They take out the two outtrigger seats and install small bumpers up front.
Conversion was about $100k+ if I remember correctly.
StageLeft
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- Sep 29, 2000
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OMG, that guy has driven some sweet cars but I think he was literally wetting himself driving that - and props to him actually driving it pretty hard! I sure don't have the balls to drive like he did. That car is INSANE. No wonder people have written them off. Its more power than a human has the right to use, at least while trying to corner at the same time.
"Sorta...there's a company in the uppereast portion of the US that does conversions for US legality. They take out the two outtrigger seats and install small bumpers up front.
Conversion was about $100k+ if I remember correctly."
That's bloody crasy NSF4. If you had the sort of money to buy an F1, you'd register it in Mexico or Canada (even if you had to buy a dodgy flat there, you could just rent it out anyway, so its not as if you'd lose money doing that), just to get arround sh!t like that. Besides I don't see how the passanger seats would be against any ADRs
Conversion was about $100k+ if I remember correctly."
That's bloody crasy NSF4. If you had the sort of money to buy an F1, you'd register it in Mexico or Canada (even if you had to buy a dodgy flat there, you could just rent it out anyway, so its not as if you'd lose money doing that), just to get arround sh!t like that. Besides I don't see how the passanger seats would be against any ADRs
NFS4
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Do a search online on Road and Tracks website. They posted an article on it about 2-3 years ago when they did the first US test of the McLaren F1.
*Edit* I couldn't find it on their site, but if you go to the library or some place that has backlogs of Mags, it's in the Dec '97 issue. They talk about the conversion process, the reason why the seats have to be taken out, and the price.
Ohh, and the company is called Ameritech. And the conversion is mutliple $100k's looking at my current issue of R&T in the Road Test Summary.
They show the list price for the F1 at $890,000 with an as tested price of $1,131,120. So the conversion was $241,120!!!!!
*Edit* I couldn't find it on their site, but if you go to the library or some place that has backlogs of Mags, it's in the Dec '97 issue. They talk about the conversion process, the reason why the seats have to be taken out, and the price.
Ohh, and the company is called Ameritech. And the conversion is mutliple $100k's looking at my current issue of R&T in the Road Test Summary.
They show the list price for the F1 at $890,000 with an as tested price of $1,131,120. So the conversion was $241,120!!!!!
NFS4
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Damn I'm good, found the R&T article on the F1 conversion
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7389/randt.htm
<< When he decided a few years ago that he had to have a McLaren, he called his friend Harley Cluxton, race driver and owner of Grand Touring Cars, an exotic sports-car dealership in Scottsdale, Arizona. Cluxton arranged the purchase of the F1 from McLaren and the two of them went to England to visit the factory. The car was then shipped to Connecticut, where it was federalized for import by a specialist company called Ameritech, owned by our old friend Dick Fritz, who has legalized all sorts of cars over the years. For U.S. purposes, Ameritech is actually listed as the manufacturer and is the point of purchase. (However, an arrangement has been made for all service to be performed by BMW at its headquarters in New Jersey.)
First thing to incite the classic double-take for most bystanders is the "1-plus-2" driving position, with the driver seated smack-dab in the middle of the car. Passenger seats and/or baggage compartments flank the driver's seat and are set slightly back of the central cockpit. Gordon Murray designed it this way for optimum balance, a symmetrical view of approaching apexes and to sidestep the usual mid-engine exotic-car problem of having the front wheels impinge on the driver's footwell space. He wanted a comfortable, logical cockpit without limited steering lock, skewed pedals, seats or steering wheel, and he got it.
Because the car comes into the U.S. without side airbags or other passive restraints for the two passenger seats, the law requires their removal, so our test car had the luggage bays installed by Ameritech. The owner, however, is free to install one or both seats after purchase, and most do (likewise the removal of the Ameritech-installed, U.S.-legal bumpers and headlights). >>
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7389/randt.htm
<< When he decided a few years ago that he had to have a McLaren, he called his friend Harley Cluxton, race driver and owner of Grand Touring Cars, an exotic sports-car dealership in Scottsdale, Arizona. Cluxton arranged the purchase of the F1 from McLaren and the two of them went to England to visit the factory. The car was then shipped to Connecticut, where it was federalized for import by a specialist company called Ameritech, owned by our old friend Dick Fritz, who has legalized all sorts of cars over the years. For U.S. purposes, Ameritech is actually listed as the manufacturer and is the point of purchase. (However, an arrangement has been made for all service to be performed by BMW at its headquarters in New Jersey.)
First thing to incite the classic double-take for most bystanders is the "1-plus-2" driving position, with the driver seated smack-dab in the middle of the car. Passenger seats and/or baggage compartments flank the driver's seat and are set slightly back of the central cockpit. Gordon Murray designed it this way for optimum balance, a symmetrical view of approaching apexes and to sidestep the usual mid-engine exotic-car problem of having the front wheels impinge on the driver's footwell space. He wanted a comfortable, logical cockpit without limited steering lock, skewed pedals, seats or steering wheel, and he got it.
Because the car comes into the U.S. without side airbags or other passive restraints for the two passenger seats, the law requires their removal, so our test car had the luggage bays installed by Ameritech. The owner, however, is free to install one or both seats after purchase, and most do (likewise the removal of the Ameritech-installed, U.S.-legal bumpers and headlights). >>
NFS4
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Saleen S7 pics
They ripped the front end design (overall shape and headlamps, side mirror placement and look) from the F1 as well as the roof scoop and shape.
They ripped the front end design (overall shape and headlamps, side mirror placement and look) from the F1 as well as the roof scoop and shape.
The Saleen S7 isn't even the first true American supercar. What about the Callaway C5 (think that's the name of it). Callaway sent me a brochure about that one...guess they got me mixed up for a potential customer
-GL
-GL
Well that Saleen may look like a F1 but as its mid engined & has fuel injected Ford 427 big block, one could say its a modern reincarnation of the later Ford GT40s of the 60's which had a similar mid engined configeration, plus the later one were also equiped with fuel injected (lucas mechanical though) 427 big blocks.
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