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Pastore

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Pastore
Since when did ATOT fill with architects?

Logic needs no degrees or occuption for application.

This isn't logic you fvcking idiot. What this thread is full of is people making up crap to support an insane claim. Well the building fell too fast! Look what happens when I drop a basketball! Buildings don't collapse because of fire! Blah blah blah, none of these things can be claimed by someone who knows jack about the way the building is constructed. Why don't you people go read some of the commentary by actual architects who have studied what led up to the collapse of the building? Those are the comments you should be reading, not these tin foil hat retards talking about basketballs.
 

NetGuySC

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Originally posted by: murban135
Originally posted by: NetGuySC
Pleases show me another 47+ story building that has collasped from a fire. Other than the twin towers of course.

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I am not saying i believe Bush did this, i amn just saying i have some unanswered questions

Please show me a building hit by a commercial airliner that did not fall.

Building 7 wasn't hit by a airliner either

 

K1052

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: NetGuySC
I am still waiting for the collaspe of the bldg 7 explanation....there was no 60 tons of jet fuel, no inpacts from jetliners, just some fires on a couple floors. Yet the building collasped from corner to corner. This also makes me wonder why the federal building in oklahoma city didn't collaspe even though half of it was blown away, yet building 7 totally collasped.


So, one situation is a perfect predictor of another? Seriously guys, every building is designed differently, this isn't apples to apples. I haven't studied B7 much, but I have heard that significant load-bearing supports were heavily damaged by rubble.

The reports were that WTC7 suffered severe structural damage on the side facing WTC1 and 2 due to falling debris. Couple that with a cantilivered support structure they used to build over the ConEd substation at ground level and some uncontrolled fires and presto...structural failure.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: NetGuySC
Maybe I am wrong but I thought building 7 was a grid steel building.

Yes, but with a catch.

There was a large electrical substation blocking the site so the engineer's solution was to build a cantilevered support system to clear the substation and still provide sufficent support for the stucture above. WTC7 sustained severe structual damage to the lower south side and undoubtedly severely weakened this particular structure.

 

NetGuySC

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: NetGuySC
Maybe I am wrong but I thought building 7 was a grid steel building.

Yes, but with a catch.

There was a large electrical substation blocking the site so the engineer's solution was to build a cantilevered support system to clear the substation and still provide sufficent support for the stucture above. WTC7 sustained severe structual damage to the lower south side and undoubtedly severely weakened this particular structure.


Thanks for your response, this is the best explanation I have seen yet.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: flexy


* towers fell in approx 9 secs which is as fast, even more, than FREE FALL speed eg. of a ball thru air.....and they fell at this speed thru hundreds of stories of STEEL. They argue this is physically impossible, eg. a "domino effect" would SLOW a fall...

A myth. The debris ejected to the sides during the collapse hits the ground more than twice as fast as the building fell. 9 seconds is a myth as well. More like 12-15 seconds.

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/lcg3.html#Freefall%20fraud?

* Building WTC 7 <---- which fell later that afternoon..watch the FOOTAGE of this building crashing down and explain !!!!

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html#Collapses

* mysterious power-outages weeks before 9/11 with strange people in the WTC, no security-cams etc. working for hours...people were told they're doing "cable upgrades"

Pure myth

* many INTERESTING eyewitness reports

More silliness.

* watch it, discuss :)

No thank you. It's been done before. All these videos do is display their own ignorance. Many are filled with intentional lies and deceptions leading one to believe that some, if not all the makers of these videos are intentionally deceiving poor fools like yourself in a rather successful attempt at 15 minutes of fame.