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unokitty

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What do you do if you find out that nobody services internet in your area at all? Before moving I was told that Frontier offered internet but come to find it it's satellite with a 6gb data cap per month and way over priced. With satellite, I'm guessing latency for gaming would be awful anyways.

Are there any practical cellular options?

:eek::'(D:


You might explore using 802.11 with a yagi, or other, directional antenna.

I've had 'friends' that lived several miles from a community college but were able to access their wireless with a directional antenna.

Best of luck,
Uno
 

Kalmah

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Thanks guys. Some of you gave a few suggestions that I can look into.

I'm in between Mt. Pleasant and Lansing. Too far South of Mt. Pleasant and too far North of Lansing apparently. Both major cities(in mid michigan terms) but there really is nothing in between besides a few shoddy towns. I'm outside of one of those shoddy towns by about 2 miles.
 

DrPizza

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Dont be too hard on the OP. Before I bought my current house, I called the phone company and had them verify they provided DSL at the address. After closing on the house, I called and they told me they didn't service the address. After I essentially threatened to find them and kill them in their sleep, they gave me a different answer. Not having broadband internet is a deal killer on a house purchase.
Ditto. Look through my old posts. Checked to make sure DSL was available. Then, "well, what we meant is that it will be available soon, we're upgrading lines in your area." That turned into, "we're rolling out FIOS and have no plans to upgrade DSL anywhere."
 

Elixer

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Thanks guys. Some of you gave a few suggestions that I can look into.

I'm in between Mt. Pleasant and Lansing. Too far South of Mt. Pleasant and too far North of Lansing apparently. Both major cities(in mid michigan terms) but there really is nothing in between besides a few shoddy towns. I'm outside of one of those shoddy towns by about 2 miles.

There is another option, but unless you can get all your neighbors to agree, it will be really expensive.

You find out who controls the cable in your area (Charter I think?) and get a estimate of how much it would be to lay new cable down. Once you get that price, you can go to your neighbors and see if they are willing to pitch in to get HSI service in your area.

You can also talk to the city manager, and tell them when do they expect your area to be serviced, they should be able to get you more info, and it is also possible that they can speed things up. They do have grants available for "rural" areas they can use.
 

Meghan54

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There is another option, but unless you can get all your neighbors to agree, it will be really expensive.

You find out who controls the cable in your area (Charter I think?) and get a estimate of how much it would be to lay new cable down. Once you get that price, you can go to your neighbors and see if they are willing to pitch in to get HSI service in your area.

You can also talk to the city manager, and tell them when do they expect your area to be serviced, they should be able to get you more info, and it is also possible that they can speed things up. They do have grants available for "rural" areas they can use.



Actually, if it's Charter, there may be a "new" option.....I stress MAY.

We were supposedly serviced by Charter where we bought our house. Signed up for it, installer shows up, says "No cable at your house. Need a site survery to assess what it'll entail getting it to you."

Turned out, the cable terminated approx 1/10 of a mile away from our property and would need to be strung to the nearest telephone pole, a hub/repeater/whatever-it's-called installed and then cable run to the house. Our front yard is approx. an acre in size and we're set back from the road by almost 100 yds.

Well, survey was done and then get called by Charter that it'd be $1800 minimum to get cable to the house. Kinda sucked because we're on the local telephone co-op DSL/TV and both suck balls. The DSL has latency/lag from hell and the TV is limited at best.

After spending a day on the phone playing phone tag and getting no answers to questions like "Where's the nearest drop to our house?", I get a phone call from the guy who did the site survey. He then says Charter's begun an internal change in company policy that at minimum splits the cost 70/30 (Charter/customer) of running cable to an unserved house, if they charge at all. In our case, we're in the "it'll be free to hook you up" group.

Downside.....it's going to be 30-45 days until they can get the cable laid underground--have to schedule the Ditch Witch out here after they mark out the underground services (water, gas, elect., etc.), schedule a crew, roll of cable, etc., etc. The routine circus act for laying cable.

My suggestion to the OP is go to the closer town's local Charter office and talk with them. If Charter in SC is moving away from charging potential customers the full cost to get service to a residence, they may have the same thing going on up there. Worth a little time to find out.
 
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Demo24

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Actually, if it's Charter, there may be a "new" option.....I stress MAY.

We were supposedly serviced by Charter where we bought our house. Signed up for it, installer shows up, says "No cable at your house. Need a site survery to assess what it'll entail getting it to you."

Turned out, the cable terminated approx 1/10 of a mile away from our property and would need to be strung to the nearest telephone pole, a hub/repeater/whatever-it's-called installed and then cable run to the house. Our front yard is approx. an acre in size and we're set back from the road by almost 100 yds.

Well, survey was done and then get called by Charter that it'd be $1800 minimum to get cable to the house. Kinda sucked because we're on the local telephone co-op DSL/TV and both suck balls. The DSL has latency/lag from hell and the TV is limited at best.

After spending a day on the phone playing phone tag and getting no answers to questions like "Where's the nearest drop to our house?", I get a phone call from the guy who did the site survey. He then says Charter's begun an internal change in company policy that at minimum splits the cost 70/30 (Charter/customer) of running cable to an unserved house, if they charge at all. In our case, we're in the "it'll be free to hook you up" group.

Downside.....it's going to be 30-45 days until they can get the cable laid underground--have to schedule the Ditch Witch out here after they mark out the underground services (water, gas, elect., etc.), schedule a crew, roll of cable, etc., etc. The routine circus act for laying cable.

My suggestion to the OP is go to the closer town's local Charter office and talk with them. If Charter in SC is moving away from charging potential customers the full cost to get service to a residence, they may have the same thing going on up there. Worth a little time to find out.

Same experiences with the business side down here in Georgia. Also they apparently have stopped doing contracts for most things, although if the cost to provide service is too high you'll probably get locked into one to cover that cost.
 

mmntech

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OP should have researched beforehand. However, you'd be surprised how many areas still aren't wired for broadband. A friend of mine lives quite literally 1 mile outside the city limits and just got access to cable late last year. They were using 3G prior to that. Though I don't know why they couldn't just get ADSL.
 

Meghan54

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Same experiences with the business side down here in Georgia. Also they apparently have stopped doing contracts for most things, although if the cost to provide service is too high you'll probably get locked into one to cover that cost.


Heck, given the service and cost of our DSL/TV/phone from our local tele. co-op (~$250/mo for 30/2 internet, TV with "everything"), I'd honestly be willing to pay to get wired by Charter. They cannot be as bad as the telephone co. and they quoted a fixed price that was over $100/mo cheaper, guaranteed for a year, then a $20 increase the 2nd year, followed by another $20/mo increase the 3rd year.

I'd end up saving almost $3000 over those three years vs. the phone company's rates.
 

waggy

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ROFL at the idea that he'll get LTE coverage when he can't even get cable

lol.

I can't get cable tv yet i get 4g coverage on my phone. in fact thats what Verizon offered me as internet.


OP. look around you may be surprised and find a small outfit that offers "wireless DSL". that's what i got and its good.

IF you have to get satalight don't worry to much. i had it and played WoW just find. i had a 1.5 down
 

Zodiark1593

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lol.

I can't get cable tv yet i get 4g coverage on my phone. in fact thats what Verizon offered me as internet.


OP. look around you may be surprised and find a small outfit that offers "wireless DSL". that's what i got and its good.

IF you have to get satalight don't worry to much. i had it and played WoW just find. i had a 1.5 down
Good luck with anything like shooters on 2 second+ latency. :p
 

Leros

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lol.

I can't get cable tv yet i get 4g coverage on my phone. in fact thats what Verizon offered me as internet.


OP. look around you may be surprised and find a small outfit that offers "wireless DSL". that's what i got and its good.

IF you have to get satalight don't worry to much. i had it and played WoW just find. i had a 1.5 down

Doesn't satellite have ridiculously low data caps? Something like 5GB/mo?
 

waggy

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Doesn't satellite have ridiculously low data caps? Something like 5GB/mo?

yeah i had a 2 GB/mo. IF yo go over they would lock you down to below 33.6 modem speeds.

I was so happy to find out about the company i am with. i spend less and get far faster connection. though they claimed i downloaded to much and claimed i was a business (i reformatted and had to install windows and WoW). once i finally got a person to look at the logs it was fine.

Good luck with anything like shooters on 2 second+ latency. :p

notice i said wow
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Leros

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yeah i had a 2 GB/mo. IF yo go over they would lock you down to below 33.6 modem speeds.

I was so happy to find out about the company i am with. i spend less and get far faster connection. though they claimed i downloaded to much and claimed i was a business (i reformatted and had to install windows and WoW). once i finally got a person to look at the logs it was fine.



notice i said wow
:whiste:

2GB is a month is crazy. I guess it would be tolerable if you blocked multimedia from loading by default, block scripts, block ads, etc. A single short youtube video can easily consume 50MB.

My normal 10 hours a week of tinkering around on the internet ends up being 20GB a month. My podcast downloads are another 20GB and my netflix watching is about 80-120GB a month.
 

Sonikku

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Well of course there are wide gaps in America's internet availability. Time Warner can't pocket government subsidies for themselves AND use them to upgrade the nations infrastructure in places it wouldn't be lucrative to do so otherwise. It's one or the other people.
 

keird

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This thread is now relevant to my interests...

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Halp! I have 28.8 Kbps from NetZero!

I just moved a month ago and despite DSL being "available" for my rural location, all the DSL lines are in use. We're on a list of people that will be called when a line is free. There's only about 300 households in my town but we're less than 5 miles from a Verizon switching station. It sucks but the new property is really interesting. I think I'll go mow the lawn or something.
 

jjsbasmt

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Less than 5 miles ----- I seem to recall that after about 15K feet or so DSL becomes very
ineffective. I live about 12K feet from the switching office and get just under 3 mbps on the down and about 600kbps on the upside with Windstream DSL in my area.
 

DrPizza

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We got a wireless service about a year ago. OMG, talk about good service. WE got a phone call - "we see that your service has been running slow the last couple of days; trying to figure out what's up." The tree across the road, when the leaves are wet, blocks much of the signal. They came down, looked at the problem, switched out our type of antenna for a different type, and got me better service than I originally had.
 

jjsbasmt

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Alright, DrPizza, lets not keep secrets - who's the wireless carrier you speak of? We have 5 cell towers in sight of our farm, and when I benchmark my local Verizon 4g I get between 15 - 25 mbps on the down, and a little less than 5 mbps on the up. Seriously considering the move in lieu of my erratic DSL.