AbAbber2k
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Originally posted by: redly
floss, mouthwash, then brush
floss loosens crap and germs
mouthwash kills
brushing clears it away
Your logic is flawed!
Originally posted by: redly
floss, mouthwash, then brush
floss loosens crap and germs
mouthwash kills
brushing clears it away
bacteria will regrow. using an antimicrobial rinse periodically doesn't stop the growth for ever. it reduces it, and that will help lessen the chance of gum disease.Originally posted by: Skoorb
That's what I was going to question. I can scrape my tongue with a blade and it kills the bacteria on it (well they get scraped off), and they come right back on not long after.Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
according to my dentist, the bacteria is back in full force about an hour after you use itOriginally posted by: moshquerade
listerine isn't a waste of time.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Who cares, it's a waste of time anyway. But I guess if you do care, do it after.
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
My previous dentist actually recommended ACT instead of Listerine. Listerine just stunts the growth of the bacteria but theres no way to completel ykill it. But the ACT stuff does that as well as helping your teeth because it's got flouride and other things in it.
they are bacteria that cause gum disease, and Listerine reduces them. something like Scope doesn't. that just makes your breath minty for awhile.Originally posted by: Skoorb
What bacteria are these and what harm are they actually doing? It's a given that mouthwash has little/no effect on one's breath beyond about the five minute mark, since the majority of bad breath is caused by gunk on the tongue, which requires _scraping_ to remove.Originally posted by: moshquerade
first dentist i've ever heard claim that. does he have data to support it?Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
according to my dentist, the bacteria is back in full force about an hour after you use itOriginally posted by: moshquerade
listerine isn't a waste of time.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Who cares, it's a waste of time anyway. But I guess if you do care, do it after.
i'm not a spokesperson for Listerine, but if you brush/floss/rinse and then go to bed for the night i can't see the bacteria having the ammo to come back full force in an hour.
Well they are from Japan!Originally posted by: TheNinja
I always use it BEFORE brushing. I think the bottle that I have (listerine style) says to use it before brushing to loosen up plaque. Ninjas have notoriously bad teeth though. Probably from eating bamboo and shredding apart pirates with our bare teeth. Maybe diffenent mouthwashes are for different times.
Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Originally posted by: redly
floss, mouthwash, then brush
floss loosens crap and germs
mouthwash kills
brushing clears it away
Your logic is flawed!
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
i usually put mouthwash in my mouth while i brush and keep an airtight seal around my toothbrush with my lips...
excellentOriginally posted by: mobobuff
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
My previous dentist actually recommended ACT instead of Listerine. Listerine just stunts the growth of the bacteria but theres no way to completel ykill it. But the ACT stuff does that as well as helping your teeth because it's got flouride and other things in it.
I use Listerine in the mornings and ACT at night :thumbsup:
well, i doubt he just made it up... and i dont really see why he would have any anti-listerine agenda... but he certainly didnt cite his sources to me while i was in the chair.Originally posted by: moshquerade
first dentist i've ever heard claim that. does he have data to support it?Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
according to my dentist, the bacteria is back in full force about an hour after you use itOriginally posted by: moshquerade
listerine isn't a waste of time.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Who cares, it's a waste of time anyway. But I guess if you do care, do it after.
i'm not a spokesperson for Listerine, but if you brush/floss/rinse and then go to bed for the night i can't see the bacteria having the ammo to come back full force in an hour.
what does your dentist think of flossing or rinsing with fluoride daily?Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
well, i doubt he just made it up... and i dont really see why he would have any anti-listerine agenda... but he certainly didnt cite his sources to me while i was in the chair.Originally posted by: moshquerade
first dentist i've ever heard claim that. does he have data to support it?Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
according to my dentist, the bacteria is back in full force about an hour after you use itOriginally posted by: moshquerade
listerine isn't a waste of time.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Who cares, it's a waste of time anyway. But I guess if you do care, do it after.
i'm not a spokesperson for Listerine, but if you brush/floss/rinse and then go to bed for the night i can't see the bacteria having the ammo to come back full force in an hour.
regarding brushing, he said it was much better because it disorganizes all the bacteria instead of trying to kill them. its when the bacteria can concentrate that problems start. he told me a good brushing safely disorganizes bacteria for about 24 hours, and to do it 2x just to have some overlap.
iirc, some of the bacteria in the mouth is actually necessary for a healthy mouth, so you dont really want to be killing those anyways (my dentist did not say this, i dont know where i heard it)
shut if off, and brush your tongue manually with it.Originally posted by: Reck
Yea does anyone know anything about those electronic toothbrushes? Are they any good? I've always wondered how your supposed to brush your tongue with one...
flossing is an absolute must, as brushing does not disturb the bacteria that reside btw the teeth. though, he did say doing this nightly was sufficientOriginally posted by: moshquerade
what does your dentist think of flossing or rinsing with fluoride daily?Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
well, i doubt he just made it up... and i dont really see why he would have any anti-listerine agenda... but he certainly didnt cite his sources to me while i was in the chair.Originally posted by: moshquerade
first dentist i've ever heard claim that. does he have data to support it?Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
according to my dentist, the bacteria is back in full force about an hour after you use itOriginally posted by: moshquerade
listerine isn't a waste of time.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Who cares, it's a waste of time anyway. But I guess if you do care, do it after.
i'm not a spokesperson for Listerine, but if you brush/floss/rinse and then go to bed for the night i can't see the bacteria having the ammo to come back full force in an hour.
regarding brushing, he said it was much better because it disorganizes all the bacteria instead of trying to kill them. its when the bacteria can concentrate that problems start. he told me a good brushing safely disorganizes bacteria for about 24 hours, and to do it 2x just to have some overlap.
iirc, some of the bacteria in the mouth is actually necessary for a healthy mouth, so you dont really want to be killing those anyways (my dentist did not say this, i dont know where i heard it)
hopefully he doesn't underestimate the importance of a daily fluoride rinse. everyone should use ACT/fluoriguard or the generic equivalent nightly. it strenghtens the enamel and if you have any recession it strenghtens the exposed root surfaces.Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
flossing is an absolute must, as brushing does not disturb the bacteria that reside btw the teeth. though, he did say doing this nightly was sufficientOriginally posted by: moshquerade
what does your dentist think of flossing or rinsing with fluoride daily?Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
well, i doubt he just made it up... and i dont really see why he would have any anti-listerine agenda... but he certainly didnt cite his sources to me while i was in the chair.Originally posted by: moshquerade
first dentist i've ever heard claim that. does he have data to support it?Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
according to my dentist, the bacteria is back in full force about an hour after you use itOriginally posted by: moshquerade
listerine isn't a waste of time.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Who cares, it's a waste of time anyway. But I guess if you do care, do it after.
i'm not a spokesperson for Listerine, but if you brush/floss/rinse and then go to bed for the night i can't see the bacteria having the ammo to come back full force in an hour.
regarding brushing, he said it was much better because it disorganizes all the bacteria instead of trying to kill them. its when the bacteria can concentrate that problems start. he told me a good brushing safely disorganizes bacteria for about 24 hours, and to do it 2x just to have some overlap.
iirc, some of the bacteria in the mouth is actually necessary for a healthy mouth, so you dont really want to be killing those anyways (my dentist did not say this, i dont know where i heard it)
he made no mention of fluoride use
i'm not big on many electric brushes except Sonicare, Oral-B, or Inter-Plak.Originally posted by: Skoorb
My dentist was pimping the electronic toothbrushes with the swirling head on the end. the crest (?) cheap ones that have something that looks like it turns do not in fact turn. it just shakes.
there is no sugar in listerine.Originally posted by: audiotherapy
I did a test on mouthwash long time ago in AP Biology.
Listerine had the fastest bacteria regrowth, due to its high sugar content.
sruprisingly, the generic brand last longer due it its low sugar content
