Mouse resolution

[MrBurns]

Does it make any difference, wehn you have a mouse w/ more than 800dpi? If yes, in what games? I know, that there are mouses out w/ over 2000dpi, i.e. the Razer Boomslang w/ 2100dpi.



How high is the max. resolution of the PS/2? I have my mouse connected to the PS/2 because of the safe mode of Windows and I want to know, if it would make a difference if I qould connect it to the USB.

I will not change to USB because of the sample rate, because in Win XP I can chnage it in the control panel and in Win 98 I used the program PS/2-rate to change it. I now have 200Hz in both OSes.

In Google I found nothing about the max. resolution of the PS/2. Only when i install my mousedriver, the setup program always recommends me to abort the installation and change to the USB, because the maximal resolution of 800dpi can maybe not be reached w/ the PS/2.



I mainly play UT2003/4 and games, where the mouse-resolution isnt important.

I use the default mouse sensitivity in UT2k3/3k4.



My mouse is a Logitec Optical Wheelmouse w/ 3 buttons (including mousewheel), model number is M-BJ69. I bought it for about ?19,90, which is cheap for a wheel mouse, but it is a normal price for a wheel mouse which has only 3 buttons. I have bought in summer 2003.

 

[nitromullet]

I mainly play UT2003/4 and games, where the mouse-resolution isnt important

FPS are precisiely when the mouse resolution matters the most. Playing UT with a high dpi (1000+) mouse is like nothing else. If you use a Razer mouse, the response is so much quicker that it takes some getting used to. The nice thing about Razer mice is that the driver allows on the fly mouse sensitivity adjusment, so you can gradually work your way up to the high dpi's or raise/lower it depending on what you are doing. For instance, if you a trying to line up a good head shot on another player you might have difficulty with the dpi set all the way to 2100 with a BoomSlang, so you can knock it down if you need to. Then when you've bagged your kill, tweak it back up so you have maximum responsiveness.

I personally have the Razer Viper, which is 1000dpi and optical. I also own one of the original BoomSlangs (2000dpi), but the the mouse is a bit long for my taste. I prefer the small size of the Viper over the BoomSlang.

Edit: BoomSlang, not BoobSlang 🙂

 

[MrBurns]

Originally posted by: nitromulletI personally have the Razer Viper, which is 1000dpi and optical. I also own one of the original BoomSlangs (2000dpi), but the the mouse is a bit long for my taste. I prefer the small size of the Viper over the BoobSlang.

How long is your Boomslang?

My mouse is 11.5cm (4.53") long, which isnt too long for me.

 

[MrBurns]

I just tested the mouse resolution UT2k3/2k4. In both games I couldn move the mouse cursor less than 2 pixel, but moving it 2 pixel was always possible, in vertical and horizontal direction. But maybe this is the default in this games, because the lines of the crosshair are 2 pixels.

Mouse-acceleration is off in both games.

 

[MrBurns]

I now use the USB port, because I found out, that on the PS/2 my mouse really only has half of the resolution and I need the full resolution to aim really accurate (w/ the half resolution the aiming cursor can only be moved two pixels at once in Ut2k3/2k4). I also still have the PS/2 driver installed for safe mode. I can change the post w/o any problems, the mouse is recognized at the new port even w/o a reboot.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: MrBurns

Originally posted by: nitromulletI personally have the Razer Viper, which is 1000dpi and optical. I also own one of the original BoomSlangs (2000dpi), but the the mouse is a bit long for my taste. I prefer the small size of the Viper over the BoobSlang.

How long is your Boomslang?

My mouse is 11.5cm (4.53") long, which isnt too long for me.

I don't have a ruler handy, but the BoomSlang is the largest mouse I have ever used. It is recommended that you keep your palm flat on the mousepad and use your fingers to move the BoomSlang, and it is shaped so this works well. The idea is that with a very precise mouse you shouldn't have to move it all over the place to get a response. However, my fingers aren't that long and the scroll wheel was a bit difficult for me to reach quickly. If you have fairly large hands and don't mind cleaning the mouse ball and rollers (quite often) then the BoomSlang is the absolute most amazing mouse you can ever use. For me, it's the Viper - simply because it's easier for me to use and it is almost as accurate as the BoomSlang.

 

[MrBurns]

The 800 dpi are enogh for me. I can aim totally accurate and I dont wnat to use a higher sensitivity, because this would be bad for my aiming even because my hands arent as accurate as the mouse in fast movements. I can react very fast, a 180° turntakes less than1 sec. a 360° turn takes a littlebit longer, because I cannot make it in one ga anymore, but you hardly need turns w/ more than 180°.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: MrBurns
I just tested the mouse resolution UT2k3/2k4. In both games I couldn move the mouse cursor less than 2 pixel, but moving it 2 pixel was always possible, in vertical and horizontal direction. But maybe this is the default in this games, because the lines of the crosshair are 2 pixels.

Mouse-acceleration is off in both games.

no, one should be able to move a single pixel at all times. your mouse is only 400dpi. newer mx mice are superior to the old logitechs, 800dpi and a higher refresh to boot. dpi = accuracy, esp at higher res and higher mouse speeds old ones sensors work at 2000captures a sec, new ~60000

 

[MrBurns]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: MrBurns
I just tested the mouse resolution UT2k3/2k4. In both games I couldn move the mouse cursor less than 2 pixel, but moving it 2 pixel was always possible, in vertical and horizontal direction. But maybe this is the default in this games, because the lines of the crosshair are 2 pixels.

Mouse-acceleration is off in both games.

no, one should be able to move a single pixel at all times. your mouse is only 400dpi. newer mx mice are superior to the old logitechs, 800dpi and a higher refresh to boot. dpi = accuracy, esp at higher res and higher mouse speeds old ones sensors work at 2000captures a sec, new ~60000

Everything w/ more than 125 captures per sec. doesnt make a diffeence on the USB, and on the PS/2 the same is true for everything more than 200fps (if the PS/2 is overclocked). This is, because the sample rate of the USB is only 125Hz and of the PS/2 its max. 200Hz.

Edit: My mouse has 800dpi. If the driver tells me this, why should it be wrong? I have once read, that the older Logitch Optical mice had 800dpi and the new ones only have 400dpi, maybe the reason for this is, that they want that people uy the mx-mice, even if they dont need the addtional buttons. Sp it semms, like my mouse is one of the older models.

 

[Psych]

Actually, the mouse capture rate is quite important. The mouse might not send information that many times a second, but the mouse needs to take pictures thousands of times a second if it is to keep up with really fast movements. Mice with capture rates higher than 3000/sec are very hard to confuse.

 

[0roo0roo]

yup, how the internal capture works is kinda seperate from the interface refresh rate. the high internal refresh keeps it from skipping😛 else they'd just have 200hz sensors and we'd be fine and dandy. but we aren't, 2k capture sensors skip😛