Mouse DPI and grip style

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What DPI and grip do you use?

  • Low DPI (800-1600) palm grip

  • High DPI (2000+) palm grip

  • Low DPI (800-1600) claw grip

  • High DPI (2000+) claw grip

  • Low DPI (800-1600) fingertip grip

  • High DPI (2000+) fingertip grip

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AyashiKaibutsu

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Jan 24, 2004
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I got 21000 on 2400 DPI first try. I'm way off form for shooting though and the DPI is actually much lower than if I was playing in my prime, but if I just pumped the dpi/sensitivity up now my accuracy would drop without practice..
 

motsm

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Jan 20, 2010
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2200 using finger tip on a G500, though I'll normally use 1800 for competitive shooters; though I haven't been playing any lately. The higher sensitivity is more comfortable, and I don't need the extra precision playing single player games.
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
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funny how people still dont understand DPI in 2014, jacking their mice up to several thousand dpi

the best sensors in the world are low dpi optical sensors

This is what gets my goat mainly-- People say that high dpi sensors are useless and everybody should play at low DPI because it's better. If you google you find a bunch of threads where lemmings say "pro gamers use 400 dpi and minimum sensitivity!!" Why do we care what "pro gamers" do? Every day they're still playing the same games they did a decade ago, on 15" CRTs! They've turned themselves into honed Quake playing machines, so how is that relevant to regular people? On that note, it seems likely that the low DPI tradition is a relic from the days when the only choice WAS 400 dpi. Until maybe 8 years ago, the only way you could do high sensitivity was to turn up the speed in Windows or in the game, which of course skips over pixels. So of course if you learned to game at 400 dpi you can't easily adapt to higher DPI (I didn't because I didn't know interpolation of pixels was happening so I always maxed my Windows slider)

High DPI isn't useless at all if you like high sensitivity. Low DPI is useless if you like high sensitivity, and high DPI mice can all have their DPI set lower for hamfisted flail-mousing ogres! :cool:
 
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Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
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I got 21000 on 2400 DPI first try. I'm way off form for shooting though and the DPI is actually much lower than if I was playing in my prime, but if I just pumped the dpi/sensitivity up now my accuracy would drop without practice..

So far we're doing better than the low DPI folks... Imagine if the test was full screen like a real game, instead of a little box. Big advantage for high DPI
 

It's Not Lupus

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Aug 19, 2012
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So far we're doing better than the low DPI folks... Imagine if the test was full screen like a real game, instead of a little box. Big advantage for high DPI
38900, 500 dpi 1st try
I doubt it. You'd still be missing your targets.
 
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tcG

Golden Member
Jul 31, 2006
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Mouse feet/mouse pad interface also makes a difference. High friction vs. low friction... I prefer high friction, low sensitivity, low mouse weight.
 

ThinClient

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Jan 28, 2013
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I actually have my Logitech mouse pumped with the most weight I can LOL

Am I one of those mongo smash types?
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
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I just downloaded Planetside 2 and the mouse speed is way too high. Apparently the game boosts sensitivity even at the default 0.50 settin... The game is only playable at 800 dpi
 

Maximilian

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Feb 8, 2004
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Low DPI (800-1600) fingertip grip master race!

I voted claw because uh confusion.

20130926-mouse-grip.png


Should stick that in the OP, I always thought I was a claw gripper but its fingertip apparently.
 

futurefields

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Jun 2, 2012
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low sensitivity allows you to aim with more precision, simple as that

especially when doing long range sniping and the difference between a head shot and a miss is 1 pixel
 

Morgoth780

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Jul 3, 2014
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I used to play with 3600 DPI, but after my friend suggested lowering my DPI I gradually lowered it until I hit 800 DPI. I've found I'm a lot more accurate, but (At least in BF4) I find recoil a lot harder to control since I'd have to pull my mouse down a ton.
 

DigDog

Lifer
Jun 3, 2011
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This is what gets my goat mainly-- People say that high dpi sensors are useless and everybody should play at low DPI because it's better. If you google you find a bunch of threads where lemmings say "pro gamers use 400 dpi and minimum sensitivity!!" Why do we care what "pro gamers" do? Every day they're still playing the same games they did a decade ago, on 15" CRTs! They've turned themselves into honed Quake playing machines, so how is that relevant to regular people? On that note, it seems likely that the low DPI tradition is a relic from the days when the only choice WAS 400 dpi. Until maybe 8 years ago, the only way you could do high sensitivity was to turn up the speed in Windows or in the game, which of course skips over pixels. So of course if you learned to game at 400 dpi you can't easily adapt to higher DPI (I didn't because I didn't know interpolation of pixels was happening so I always maxed my Windows slider)

High DPI isn't useless at all if you like high sensitivity. Low DPI is useless if you like high sensitivity, and high DPI mice can all have their DPI set lower for hamfisted flail-mousing ogres! :cool:

your post makes zero sense. :/

first off, we use (d) CRTs because the response rate is far better, and they dont have input lag.

we got good at quake because that was the game you'd play, but any of these people can destroy you in *any* game you'd chose to play, be it BF4, CoD, Arma, whatever.

now, for the fun:

DPI has NOTHING to do with sensitivity. having a mouse with 10.000dpi doesn't change how fast it moves the crosshair, your SENSITIVITY does.

ofc sens x dpi = speed. and maybe you keep a game's original sens value with a 1600 dpi mouse, and good luck aiming with that.

"pro" players use low sensitivity because it allows to make smaller movements AND big movements on the same mat. this is the same reason why you have a steering wheel in cars and not a joystick. humans are not capable of fine control as required by HARD games, and so they lower the mouse's response, making the small moves on the monitor BIGGER on the mat.

for example, my sensitivity in quake is 1.68 x 900 DPI x 75%.
if i get a mouse with 1800 dpi, i would use 0.84 x 1800 x 75% and get the same exact value.

what matters to me is how many cm i need to make a 180 turn. again, the reasoning is inverse: with 1cm movement, i will move a few pixels.
if my sens was much bigger, say 4x, and i needed to move the same number of few pixels, i would NEED to move the mouse only 1/4 of a cm.

again, humans dont have such fine motor control, and this is while practicing. when someone is shooting at you, your screen is shaking, you made positional mistakes, there's smoke, noise, and you have a fraction of a second to respond to a target you haven't acquired yet, your fine aim goes to shits.

and there is your answer - extended version.

but i like the short one better. "are you a high sens player? if yes, then you are probably a noob."

i'll gladly meet you ingame ; quakelive.com IGN: GnGBnG
 

BrightCandle

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Mar 15, 2007
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Most pro gamers I know use a very predefined 180 degree turn rate. Myself I use 360 is 35cm, and I know quite a few pros have settled on 30cm although I suspect it varies quite a bit. Almost always in these games most of what you need to do is on the screen in front of you, so being able to do more than 180 degrees in any direction isn't necessary, so practically using as much as your mat as possible for the range of movement you need 99.99% of the time is the most optimal solution, because you have both the big movements with your whole arm available and you also have the smaller precision movements with your wrists and fingers.

I am the same as DigDog in this regard, I run 400 dpi and I also reduce the sensitivity in game to always match my 360 in 35cm. Its the first change I make in every games settings, and once I do that I can guarantee my accuracy will carry across to every game I play and be exactly the same and my muscle memory will work to give me good accuracy immediately.
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
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your post makes zero sense. :/

first off, we use (d) CRTs because the response rate is far better, and they dont have input lag.

we got good at quake because that was the game you'd play, but any of these people can destroy you in *any* game you'd chose to play, be it BF4, CoD, Arma, whatever.

now, for the fun:

DPI has NOTHING to do with sensitivity. having a mouse with 10.000dpi doesn't change how fast it moves the crosshair, your SENSITIVITY does.

ofc sens x dpi = speed. and maybe you keep a game's original sens value with a 1600 dpi mouse, and good luck aiming with that.

"pro" players use low sensitivity because it allows to make smaller movements AND big movements on the same mat. this is the same reason why you have a steering wheel in cars and not a joystick. humans are not capable of fine control as required by HARD games, and so they lower the mouse's response, making the small moves on the monitor BIGGER on the mat.

for example, my sensitivity in quake is 1.68 x 900 DPI x 75%.
if i get a mouse with 1800 dpi, i would use 0.84 x 1800 x 75% and get the same exact value.

what matters to me is how many cm i need to make a 180 turn. again, the reasoning is inverse: with 1cm movement, i will move a few pixels.
if my sens was much bigger, say 4x, and i needed to move the same number of few pixels, i would NEED to move the mouse only 1/4 of a cm.

again, humans dont have such fine motor control, and this is while practicing. when someone is shooting at you, your screen is shaking, you made positional mistakes, there's smoke, noise, and you have a fraction of a second to respond to a target you haven't acquired yet, your fine aim goes to shits.

and there is your answer - extended version.

but i like the short one better. "are you a high sens player? if yes, then you are probably a noob."

i'll gladly meet you ingame ; quakelive.com IGN: GnGBnG

Of course DPI = sensitivity. Hence you have to use a different multiplier at higher DPI. If the game is set to 1:1, setting the mouse at 1000dpi moves the view 1000 pixels for 1" of movement. Set the mouse to 2000dpi and it moves the view 2000 pixels for 1" movement.

Humans do have the ability to make tiny movements. How do you think we do things like draw and sculpt?

I'm not a l33tpr0 but I'm pretty sure the limiting factor is reaction time. In the test posted above I can hit the little targets a few pixels across. But I can't hit multiple ones quickly or my score would be higher
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
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I use a modified palm, in that the front of my fingers lay on the mouse buttons, but the backs of my fingers (past the first joint) don't touch the mouse. I use a Logitech M325 wireless and don't play games online though.
 

ThinClient

Diamond Member
Jan 28, 2013
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Low DPI (800-1600) fingertip grip master race!

I voted claw because uh confusion.

20130926-mouse-grip.png


Should stick that in the OP, I always thought I was a claw gripper but its fingertip apparently.

Thank you for posting this image. I learned something today. Apparently I am a fingertip gamer.
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
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I use a modified palm, in that the front of my fingers lay on the mouse buttons, but the backs of my fingers (past the first joint) don't touch the mouse. I use a Logitech M325 wireless and don't play games online though.

That's called fingertip grip
 

TheUnk

Golden Member
Jun 24, 2005
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My DPI setting depends on the game.

I generally go as high DPI as I can with the lowest in-game mouse sensitivity.

Some games the highest DPI my mouse goes is too fast no matter how low I put the games sensitivity. Others I can max out DPI and still have room for sensitivity adjustments.

Usually I find game sensitivity setting being higher results in jerky pixel skipping movements when making fine adjustments. With it lower that is reduced while still letting me do a fast 180.
 

Stuka87

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Dec 10, 2010
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low sensitivity allows you to aim with more precision, simple as that

especially when doing long range sniping and the difference between a head shot and a miss is 1 pixel

This is why I use a mouse with an on the fly DPI adjustment. Push one button and I can drop it down to snipe. Push another button and jump back up for run and gun.
 
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i just point my finger, like in a gun shape, and spray noises out of my mouth like "pew pew pew, pow, pow," it's sooooo accurate. no fiddling with the acceleration registry, no mouse pad lift issues, i can do 360's like crazy