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Zargon

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Reading comprehension fail. That quote is not about a benefit of radial calipers, but rather it's about the benefits of two separate technologies that are typically incorporated in radial-mount calipers but which can also be incorporated in traditional axial-mount calipers, namely, stiffer calipers and better pads; specifically it's talking about those two technologies as they apply to race parts, not street parts.

Also from that article, and this time actually discussing radial-mount calipers:

it doesnt say its talking about just the race parts does it?
it seemed to be implying that all of those benefits are making it to the streetbikes that feature them. meaning its a package deal with the radials being added, which would make the radials overall better than the counterparts that are hitting street.



Look, there's nothing wrong with wanting the latest and greatest on a hard-driven sportbike. If you're tracking your bike, infinitesimal improvements can definitely be important in shaving those last few hundredths off a lap. But a person would have to be almost inconceivably stupid to honestly believe that those tiny differences are even tangentially important to a cruiser.

A cruiser isn't going to be running at 100 mph, and its rider isn't going to be dragging knees through corners.

um what? c'mon now all riders of all types speed like hell sometimes, I went on a poker run(never doing that again with that group) and those cruisers were doing triple digits down 2 lane blacktop all over the place, then they drank and did it some more!


The minute differences just plain don't come into play in a cruiser's performance envelope. You can swipe at cruiser riders all you like and say that they "don't care" about ride quality or "good brakes", but the simple fact is that the improvements offered by the technologies you're demanding are so incredibly small that it would not be possible to notice the benefit when riding a cruiser in the way that it's intended.

maybe not, but I try and hit HD demo days when they swing through, and I get off pretty much every bike wondering hwo people feel comfortable riding bikes that brake soo poorly. its not just harleys, my neighbors nomad, a friends vtx 1800. my friend that had a C50 boulevard sold it and bought a bandit, after riding some of our sportier bikes and decided it didnt feel like he had that great of control, especially braking. so in my mind, they need every ounce of improvement they can get in that deparment.

then again some of them still only have one front rotor(I know, they are much less front bias'd that other bikes) but I'm sure they can do something, they dont need to be trying to pull stoppies but they sure seem sluggish to stop. obviously my opinion is skewed because I ride sportbikes and do trackdays, but who complains about having TOO GOOD of braking?
 

Greenman

Lifer
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it doesnt say its talking about just the race parts does it?
it seemed to be implying that all of those benefits are making it to the streetbikes that feature them. meaning its a package deal with the radials being added, which would make the radials overall better than the counterparts that are hitting street.





um what? c'mon now all riders of all types speed like hell sometimes, I went on a poker run(never doing that again with that group) and those cruisers were doing triple digits down 2 lane blacktop all over the place, then they drank and did it some more!




maybe not, but I try and hit HD demo days when they swing through, and I get off pretty much every bike wondering hwo people feel comfortable riding bikes that brake soo poorly. its not just harleys, my neighbors nomad, a friends vtx 1800. my friend that had a C50 boulevard sold it and bought a bandit, after riding some of our sportier bikes and decided it didnt feel like he had that great of control, especially braking. so in my mind, they need every ounce of improvement they can get in that deparment.

then again some of them still only have one front rotor(I know, they are much less front bias'd that other bikes) but I'm sure they can do something, they dont need to be trying to pull stoppies but they sure seem sluggish to stop. obviously my opinion is skewed because I ride sportbikes and do trackdays, but who complains about having TOO GOOD of braking?

I don't know about other Harley's, but mine stops very well. I run out of balls long before I run out of brake. I'm told Brembo makes pretty good brakes, and that's what it came with.
 

Zargon

Lifer
Nov 3, 2009
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I don't know about other Harley's, but mine stops very well. I run out of balls long before I run out of brake. I'm told Brembo makes pretty good brakes, and that's what it came with.

brembo is one of the best.

I may also have issues with the different input you get from the heavier bike

not that I expect a 700lb bike to stop like a 400 lb bike.

what model of harley?

I havent ridden a sportser in like 5 years, and it was a late 90's model or early 2000 at that. I dont ride them at demo days unless its the XR1200. I tried a screamin eagle electra glyde and a vrod this year though