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Pghpooh

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I want to replace my old Asus A7v133 motherboard. It's served me well for over 3 years.
Now, by nature I am lazy!! LOLOL Being retired does that to me! LOLOL
I want to buy a new motherboard, cpu, heat sink, and ram and install it USING THE CURRENT O/S AND SOFTWARE LOADED ON THE 3 HARD DRIVES THAT I AM USING NOW.
Once the new setup is up and working I'll probably do a clean install of my o/s and software a few months later.
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Pghpooh
 

Fisher999

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Originally posted by: Pghpooh
HI
I want to replace my old Asus A7v133 motherboard. It's served me well for over 3 years.
Now, by nature I am lazy!! LOLOL Being retired does that to me! LOLOL
I want to buy a new motherboard, cpu, heat sink, and ram and install it USING THE CURRENT O/S AND SOFTWARE LOADED ON THE 3 HARD DRIVES THAT I AM USING NOW.
Once the new setup is up and working I'll probably do a clean install of my o/s and software a few months later.
Thanks
Pghpooh

Because the windows "registry" keeps track of the hardware devices and chipsets (etc...) used on a particular set-up doing what you want to do (I believe) is still very tricky. I USED to have a cheat sheet that explained which registry "keys" to delete BEFORE taking out the old hardware and replacing with the new motherboard, CPU, RAM, and then adding your other components and rebooting and letting windows take care of the configuring or recognizing the new motherboard and other components. But since you plan on re-installing your O/S and apps anyway why not just f-disk or re-format the hard-drives, remove the old motherboard/cpu/ram and install the new motherboard/cpu/ram and then do a CLEAN install of the O/S, chipset drivers (if you need to do this), current hardware drivers and finally APPs?

If you are using a version of Windows XP you may have to give a MS representative a call to unlock the 30 day barrier but it may be worth it.

There is probably someone in this forum that knows a way around that longer method which I describe so here's a BUMP for you anyway!

Greg

 

Zepper

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I have done it but usually with mobos in the same family (e.g. from KT600 to KT880) and I'm running Win2k just for this purpose - I can change my hardware whenver I want w/o having to kiss Billy G's behind each time...

.bh.
 

Pghpooh

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Thanks for your answers.
Looks like Microsoft o/s is going to be the bug here. I'm using Win XP Home. Having done just ONE install and updates on security and to sp2 I would hope that Microsoft will let me reinstall it 3 plus years later without any problems.
The "Lazy" way to install the new motherboard would be to buy a new hard drive and start anew. Heck,,, I might as well add a new video card and sound card and power supply and build all new! LOLOLOL
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I just recently swapped out mobos and used the existing os on my hard drive. Once I installed the new mobo - i booted from my xp home cd and used the repair feature. It's been a month now and I've had no problems. FYI - I switched from a nf3 chipset to a k8T800 chipset.
 

Fisher999

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Originally posted by: blkdragon
I just recently swapped out mobos and used the existing os on my hard drive. Once I installed the new mobo - i booted from my xp home cd and used the repair feature. It's been a month now and I've had no problems. FYI - I switched from a nf3 chipset to a k8T800 chipset.

See Pghpooh, I figured somebody would be aware of a newer and simpler way of accomplishing this type of mobo swap without having to do a clean install of XP. :eek:

Thanks blkdragon ! :thumbsup:
 

Cheesetogo

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I did it, and basiclaly all that happend was windows made me reactivate windows, which is really annoying because you have to call up microsoft and get the code. You can't do the online thing becuase you've already registered.
 

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i switched from a kt133a to an nforce2 and i don't even think i did a windows repair. benchmarks showed that there wasn't any performance decrease doing so, either.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Pghpooh
HI
Thanks for your answers.
Looks like Microsoft o/s is going to be the bug here. I'm using Win XP Home. Having done just ONE install and updates on security and to sp2 I would hope that Microsoft will let me reinstall it 3 plus years later without any problems.
The "Lazy" way to install the new motherboard would be to buy a new hard drive and start anew. Heck,,, I might as well add a new video card and sound card and power supply and build all new! LOLOLOL
Thanks
Pghpooh
If your WinXP Home license is a retail one, you are entitled to do that as many times as you like, the OS is licensed to you. Here are some security suggestions to help keep you out of harm's way during the reinstallation, if you need them: link.

 

Pghpooh

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Originally posted by mechBgon
If your WinXP Home license is a retail one, you are entitled to do that as many times as you like, the OS is licensed to you. Here are some security suggestions to help keep you out of harm's way during the reinstallation, if you need them: link.

What if I bought the o's as a oem? I bought it from Newegg and installed it.

Thanks
Pghpooh
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Pghpooh
HI

Originally posted by mechBgon
If your WinXP Home license is a retail one, you are entitled to do that as many times as you like, the OS is licensed to you. Here are some security suggestions to help keep you out of harm's way during the reinstallation, if you need them: link.

What if I bought the o's as a oem? I bought it from Newegg and installed it.

Thanks
Pghpooh
Since it's OEM, it's "married" to the first system you activate it on. You may not (legally) install it on a new system. Microsoft's page about that and what constitutes a new system (evidently the motherboard is the definitive item).

I'm buying retail licenses from now on, cheaper in the long run for someone who has Upgrade Disease :D
 

Pghpooh

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Another dumb question. I gotta ask! LOL
When you say retail License, are you saying that you are buying just the license from Microsoft or buying the retail version with with software and the license.
Dumb question, but I gotta ask! LOL
Thanks
Pghpooh


Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: Pghpooh
HI

Originally posted by mechBgon
If your WinXP Home license is a retail one, you are entitled to do that as many times as you like, the OS is licensed to you. Here are some security suggestions to help keep you out of harm's way during the reinstallation, if you need them: link.

What if I bought the o's as a oem? I bought it from Newegg and installed it.

Thanks
Pghpooh
Since it's OEM, it's "married" to the first system you activate it on. You may not (legally) install it on a new system. Microsoft's page about that and what constitutes a new system (evidently the motherboard is the definitive item).

I'm buying retail licenses from now on, cheaper in the long run for someone who has Upgrade Disease :D

 

mechBgon

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Another dumb question. I gotta ask! LOL
When you say retail License, are you saying that you are buying just the license from Microsoft or buying the retail version with with software and the license.
Dumb question, but I gotta ask! LOL
Thanks
Pghpooh
In my case, I would be buying this here. A license plus a CD. The license is the important thing. If I lose/damage the CD, Microsoft will replace it for a nominal fee. If I want another license, on the other hand, they'll charge another $270 for that.

BTW, I would not get WinXP Home if you're going to buy again, get XP Pro. Longer support life by far, since it's the business-class version. Patch support expires at the end of 2011 for XP Pro if I recall correctly, versus mid-2007 for XP Home Edition. There are other benefits too, although they might matter more to me than to some :)
 

Pghpooh

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$270 for software!!!!!!!!!!
Good Grief,,, that's my monthly pension money!!!
How am I gonna tell the grand kids that can't have thier monthly ice cream!!! LOLOLOLOL
Now, I'm done fooling around.
Thanks everyone for the help. I have some reading to do and some thought to put into what I want and where I want to be with this project.
I'm sure you will be seeing me posting more dumb question at a later time! LOLOL
Thanks
Pghpooh

Originally posted by: mechBgon
HI
Another dumb question. I gotta ask! LOL
When you say retail License, are you saying that you are buying just the license from Microsoft or buying the retail version with with software and the license.
Dumb question, but I gotta ask! LOL
Thanks
Pghpooh
In my case, I would be buying this here. A license plus a CD. The license is the important thing. If I lose/damage the CD, Microsoft will replace it for a nominal fee. If I want another license, on the other hand, they'll charge another $270 for that.

BTW, I would not get WinXP Home if you're going to buy again, get XP Pro. Longer support life by far, since it's the business-class version. Patch support expires at the end of 2011 for XP Pro if I recall correctly, versus mid-2007 for XP Home Edition. There are other benefits too, although they might matter more to me than to some :)

 

mechBgon

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I didn't say YOU have to buy the full-retail one ;) If your goal is to re-license one time with your new motherboard, then you could get WinXP Professional SP2 OEM for $130-$145 when you buy your new motherboard. If you don't mind the shorter support life, WinXP Home Edition OEM is under $90. Whatever suits your needs :)
 

Pghpooh

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$90???
Now, the grandkids will have thier ice cream!!! LOLOL
MechBgon, you bring up some very good points.
If I were to build and upgrade several times, the full retail with license is the way to go.
If, as I do build every 3 to 4 years, oem with the one time shot is the way to go.
BUT!!! With oem and there are motherboard problems, or the desire to upgrade sooner comes along, there could be more problems and more cost.
Whoever said that knowledge is power is wrong. I say knowledge is confusion!!! LOLOLOL
Just kidding around again!
Thanks
Pghpooh


Originally posted by: mechBgon
I didn't say YOU have to buy the full-retail one ;) If your goal is to re-license one time with your new motherboard, then you could get WinXP Professional SP2 OEM for $130-$145 when you buy your new motherboard. If you don't mind the shorter support life, WinXP Home Edition OEM is under $90. Whatever suits your needs :)

 

Fisher999

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
If your WinXP Home license is a retail one, you are entitled to do that as many times as you like, the OS is licensed to you. Here are some security suggestions to help keep you out of harm's way during the reinstallation, if you need them: link.

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MechBgon: Please accept my many thanks on behalf of ALL of us who have found your "How to Build Your First PC from Parts" guide to be such an excellent resource - even for those of us who have already built our first PC. :thumbsup:



 

mechBgon

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Thanks for the props :cool: I just got my Winchester A64 3000+ (retail) and Asus A8N-SLI edit: errr, Freudian slip there, an A8N-E I mean :eek: today, and my new PSU comes tomorrow, so there should be more pics and a heatsink-attachment video clip for the AMD64 page soon. :) Plus I got a PCI-Express 6600GT, guess I can take some photos of that too! :D