motherboard problem, cpu, i dunno really....

[damnhor2]

hello everyone, it's like this:
i got an AMD 1800 XP, a A7M266 Asus MotherBoard
4 128 DDR kingstone memory
and well, the rest doesn't really matter.

my problem is:

in the BIOS when my fsb i on 100MHZ and cpu is on 1150MHZ, my pc runs very smoothly! never gets stuck!
but when i put my fsb on 133MHZ and cpu speed on 1533MHZ (the way an amd 1800 xp SHOULD run) windows comes up good, but the second i run a benchmark it get's stuck!
what could be the problem?

by the way, i ran a motherboard temperature monitor on my pc when it got stuck, so if anyone wants to see the picture, just reply and say so.

 

[Buz2b]

A couple of things. First, is this a new system or new CPU? You weren't clear on this. Next, you said, "4 128 DDR kingstone memory". That MB only has 2 dimm slots. Can you clear this up? Next, you said you, "ran a motherboard temperature monitor on my pc when it got stuck". Can you just tell us what the results were? Namely the CPU temp?. We don't need a screenshot of it.
Next, if this was a new CPU (I'm guessing), then was your previous CPU a regular Athlon or Duron? If so there is a setting or two (Slew rates) that might have to be changed in the BIOS. Speaking of that, which BIOS are you using?

And last, I would point you to this Forum for some good ideas.

 

[damnhor2]

1. i am using bios "A7M266 BIOS 1007 4/30/02"
2. this is an entirely new system
3. the monitor i used shows the temperature as a clock and not as a number.
4. i am not sure about the memory, how can i check?

 

[damnhor2]

ok i downloaded an other monitore and this is what i get when the pc is at fsb=100MHZ cpu=1050MHZ (running good)

Temperatures:
Mainboard = 35.0C CPU1 = 60.5C

Cooling fans
Power = 4753 rpm CPu = 0 rpm

Voltages
+12 = +12.10V +5V = +4.87V Core = +1.78V I/O = +3.25V
-12V = -11.8V -5 = -5.20V Aux = +2.46V


and the "Core = +1.78V" and the "Aux = +2.46V" are in RED

what does this mean?

 

[Buz2b]

Originally posted by: damnhor2
ok i downloaded an other monitore and this is what i get when the pc is at fsb=100MHZ cpu=1050MHZ (running good)

Temperatures:
Mainboard = 35.0C CPU1 = 60.5C

Cooling fans
Power = 4753 rpm CPu = 0 rpm

Voltages
+12 = +12.10V +5V = +4.87V Core = +1.78V I/O = +3.25V
-12V = -11.8V -5 = -5.20V Aux = +2.46V


and the "Core = +1.78V" and the "Aux = +2.46V" are in RED

what does this mean?

Sounds like you are using Motherboard Monitor (MBM5) and you need to do some setup on it to get it reading the correct items. However, it would seem like the chip is reading way too hot @ 60c, especially for an XP CPU and one that is running underclocked. That is probably one of the reasons it will not work correctly at 133 fsb. Too hot. Your first move should be to either reinstall the HSF on the CPU with some good thermal paste and/or get a better HSF for it. However, this could be a symptom of something else; like the setup on the MB and/or CPU.
Did you get this system built by someone for you? Or did you build this system yourself? If it is a new system, was there a different CPU installed before? Did it "come to you" in this condition?
Did you go to that website I linked to and check out their recommedations for BIOS settings with an XP Processor; in particluar the Slew settings?

 

[damnhor2]

1. i bought this from a store, i had it custom built
2. the temperature program is called: hardware sensor monitor
it's new

what can i do about cooling things?

and what about the voltages Core = +1.78V" and the "Aux = +2.46V that are in red?

 

[flawedexistence]

What you need to do is get a better heatsink/fan. 60 C is way too hot for an Athlon XP. There are many websites selling good cooling solutions for this chip. You will also need a good thermal transfer paste. May I suggest Arctic Silver. Another consideration is case cooling. Your case may not have proper airflow. You need a good intake and exhaust fan at the very least! www.1coolpc.com, www.frozenpc.com, www.plycon.com, www.nexfan.com, etc.etc. are great places to find the proper cooling soutions. Best of luck.

 

[flawedexistence]

Hmmmm..............I'm wondering if you've been sold an ovrclocked chip with those readings that are in the red!?!?!?

 

[damnhor2]

1. what is a thermal transfer paste and how do i use it?
2. can u recommend me a good heatsink?
3. i don't even know what those readings in red are

 

[Buz2b]

Originally posted by: damnhor2
1. what is a thermal transfer paste and how do i use it?
2. can u recommend me a good heatsink?
3. i don't even know what those readings in red are

If I could at this point, I would like to make a suggestion. You really should take this system back to the people that sold it to you and make them do the work needed to make it run to "spec", as it should. You either had it built to your specifications or they sold you the system in it's current specs. Either way, your cpu is NOT RUNNING at it's "rated speed". It doesn't matter why, (and maybe, maybe, we can get to the bottom of it here), they need to fix it. It's like buying a car that is supposed to do at least the normal speed limit of 55 mph and then finding out it can only do 45 mph. You most certainly would not tolerate that!! Don't tolerate this either.
Yes, we could go into discussions as to how to apply the thermal paste, how to pick out a good Heat Sink/fan combination. Then we could go into what settings you should have in the BIOS and where you could make some adjustments. We could also talk about airflow in your case and how it effects your ambient temperatures and ultimately your CPU temperatures, and on and on and on...................!
The bottom line is you got a system that does not perform as it should. Tell the seller to make it do that or you want your money back.

 

[damnhor2]

that's a little bit of a problem as i bought this when i was living in the states

so i can't really contact them...

so can you please tell me which heatsink to buy and how to apply that lotion?

 

[Buz2b]

Ok, I do not know if they ship internationally but you should go to this site and (as a budget HS option) get either the Golden Gate HS (1st choice) or the GC68 HS. Both would do wonders for you at a really low price. And for more top of the line performance, you could get either the AX-7 or the SLK-800. Pricey, but you can't get much better. Actually, for my thinking (and again, IF they will ship internationally), you might want to look at this HS, the TI V77L. I say this because of it's ease of installation compared to the others and because of your possible lack of experience in this area. Not a dig at you at all, just trying to help. You will find the Arctic Silver thermal paste on that same page that you would need. You can find instructions for applying the thermal paste on this page. Keep in mind that what they show actually looks like, (and is) a bit too much paste but they did this for illustration purposes (easier to see). When you apply it there should be an extremely thin layer; almost see through but not quite.
Again, and at the risk of sounding like a broken record, you need to go to the Forum I linked to earlier and do a search on "A7M 266". The very first thread it brings up should be one that it titled A7M 266, my experience with it. A quick link to it would be here. If that link works for you. You really need to read that thread. It is very long and you will have to read through many pages. However, it will give you a great deal of insight as to the things you need to do to get the board set up properly for your CPU. There is no shortcut in this; you must do it. In fact, it would be best if you did that first, before ordering anything. You might find that there is a setting or two that could enable your board to run properly without getting a new HS. It is certainly worth a shot. Good Luck!

 

[damnhor2]

thanks a lot
you were very helpfull