Mother of 12 has no thanks for those who help her

[ElFenix]

why the fvck does she have 15 children?

 

[child of wonder]

All subsequent state aid should be conditional on a hysterectomy.

 

[Moonbeam]

"Would you disagree that racists see racial politics everywhere?"

You didn't answer my question in the other thread, the one that 'belongs' to Nick but here is my statement again:

All racists focus on racism and see everything as racism because that is what they are. They are terrified of racism because they project unconsciously exactly how much hate hides inside them for others of a different color. Racists absolutely freak out at Obama because all the hate they have for their worthless selves they think he feels for them. All monsters see others as the monster and are terrified of them. You don't bring change to shit filled toilet water, you just have to flush.

The garbage that has called itself the real America is still all around us fighting mightily to keep the bowl from gathering any spin. America is still very much the land of shit and the home of racists bigots,

The evil of bigotry is that the bigot is upside down. He thinks that it is he or she who sees the good when all they see is the filth hidden within them. A bigot hates himself and hates you for that. His inner life is misery and he wants to make sure yours is too.

A bigot is the real enemy of all he thinks he loves because he cannot really love.
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So what we have here is more attempt at counter-spin, to keep the current crop of shit owning the toilet bowl.

Folk who are racists see racism everywhere. Folk who see see that that is what is happening. In other words you can always tell a bigot, you just can't tell him much. My question to you, again, is, How do you tell a bigot. How do you recognize bigotry or know what it is?

 

[nick1985]

If racists are the ones who see racism, then the people who constantly assail the Tea Partiers as racists are themselves the racists? Good to know Moonbat, thanks for the info. MSNBC as a whole is a racist outfit.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

M: You didn't answer my question in the other thread, the one that 'belongs' to Nick but here is my statement again:

DSF: Right out of the chute...this strikes me as odd. Why do you feel so compelled as to marginalize Nick on such a trite thing as having a sense of ownership to a thread he started? Is this somehow a problem for you?

M: All racists focus on racism and see everything as racism because that is what they are. They are terrified of racism because they project unconsciously exactly how much hate hides inside them for others of a different color.

DSF: Race was a nonissue in this thread until Mani brought it up as imagined fodder to justify his ardent anti-rightwing bigotry. It appears that you do so for the same reason...perhaps?

M: Racists absolutely freak out at Obama because all the hate they have for their worthless selves they think he feels for them. All monsters see others as the monster and are terrified of them. You don't bring change to shit filled toilet water, you just have to flush.

DSF: Flush away. BTW...your billfold is in the toilet.

M: The garbage that has called itself the real America is still all around us fighting mightily to keep the bowl from gathering any spin. America is still very much the land of shit and the home of racists bigots,

DSF: And is it safe to assume that the 'true' real Americans are kinda like you?

M: The evil of bigotry is that the bigot is upside down. He thinks that it is he or she who sees the good when all they see is the filth hidden within them. A bigot hates himself and hates you for that. His inner life is misery and he wants to make sure yours is too.

DSF: I've always wondered why you frequently post steaming piles of excrement directed at those you disagree with...instead of engaging in discussion that may evolve into something constructive. There is a fine line between passion and the inner ugliness of bigotry whether it be racial, religious, or political. And politcal bigots are a dime a dozen...especially in this forum. I like you Moonie and your fresh perspective...always have...but please do yourself a favor...don't polarize your perception of people and the world so intensely...it dehumanizes you IMO.

M: A bigot is the real enemy of all he thinks he loves because he cannot really love.

DSF: Bigot or no bigot...most people don't know how to love...especially themselves...this is not news. Bigots are more appropriately defined by their abject ignorance and highly polarized stereotypes than anything else.

M: So what we have here is more attempt at counter-spin, to keep the current crop of shit owning the toilet bowl.

DSF: If by saying "the current crop of shit" you mean racism...I would beg to differ. Most here didn't click the link and thought this was a story about an unthankful person that was probably white. There was no mention of race in a demeaning way until Mani and you started posting. BTW...your congratulations on being naive enough to imagine the person was white is condescending and inappropriate IMO.

M: Folk who are racists see racism everywhere.

DSF: QFT...now tell me...who exactly is making this a race issue again?

M: Folk who see see that that is what is happening. In other words you can always tell a bigot, you just can't tell him much.

DSF: QFT

M: My question to you, again, is, How do you tell a bigot. How do you recognize bigotry or know what it is?

DSF: I think it's easy to see bigotry in others...but the really tough part is recognizing the bigotry in yourself. Combating bigotry starts with tolerance of others and their beliefs...regardless of color, religion, sexuality, or political persuasion. If being a decent human being is important anymore...I would think that being tolerant of others would be a good place to start IMO.

 

[Mani]

You nailed me. Hell, I clearly spelled out she was black at least 9 times before linking the article...

And we all know theres simply NO chance it could have been a poor hispanic or white family amiright?

Keep fueling the fires of racism. Well done.

You use the playbook to perfection. Use innuendo, reference singular instances involving black people, but never ever directly reference race - and then tell someone who calls you out on it the racist. Well done.

And if you're wondering how stuff like this fuels peoples' perceptions, just read some of the responses to the thread on Steele and black outreach.

 

[Mani]

You playing the race card is getting old, especially when nobody brought up race but you.

Really? Getting old? Look up my post history and point to me how many times I've "played the race card". The only other thread I posted in about race was one in which Steele was acknowledging a race problem with his party. Was I re-playing the race card there or something?

 

[waggy]

hmm if she does not want to help herself then the state/feds shouldn't either.

take the kids and let the mother rot. no reason to punish the kids more then have been already

 

[Mani]

I read the article and assumed she was white...not sure who the biggest racist/bigot is here...you or me?

Clearly it's me Doc Savage fan - thanks for setting me straight. By the way, love the reference to my "ardent anti-right wing bigotry" - nice touch. Though it seems difficult for me to fathom how I could be given that the best man at my wedding thinks Bush was a flaming liberal. Then again, who am I to argue with a random message board poster who comes out strongly against insinuations of bigotry and then does proceeds to do the very same thing?

 

[daishi5]

I had assumed she was white too... Weird.

At first I thought she said she was a proud descendant of a plantation owner who was arrested for helping the confederacy, but it looks like she was proud of being a long term florida resident. I think the plantation reference cemented the white person image in my mind. When I saw the picture in the linked article, I thought i must have been someone different at first.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You use the playbook to perfection. Use innuendo, reference singular instances involving black people, but never ever directly reference race - and then tell someone who calls you out on it the racist. Well done.

And if you're wondering how stuff like this fuels peoples' perceptions, just read some of the responses to the thread on Steele and black outreach.

Mani...please point out exactly where this innuendo exists. I reread the original post and didn't see anything that would suggest your accusation is valid.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Clearly it's me Doc Savage fan - thanks for setting me straight. By the way, love the reference to my "ardent anti-right wing bigotry" - nice touch. Though it seems difficult for me to fathom how I could be given that the best man at my wedding thinks Bush was a flaming liberal. Then again, who am I to argue with a random message board poster who comes out strongly against insinuations of bigotry and then does proceeds to do the very same thing?

You made an accusation...all I ask is that you back it up. I would like nothing better than to be proved wrong about you.

 

[CKent]

Awesome, you guys have a new idiot to model your perceptions of all black people after.

Left field called, it wants its post back.

Because there are no stupid white people. True story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiKANhznPlI

 

[Mani]

Mani...please point out exactly where this innuendo exists. I reread the original post and didn't see anything that would suggest your accusation is valid.

There's books written on this stuff. The word "handouts" is a psychologically charged term often used to evoke images of welfare recipients, which are commonly stereotyped as black. That doesn't mean anyone who uses the term is a racist, or even that everyone who uses/ reads it interprets it that way, but the OP in particular has a history of race-baiting on these forums.

 

[Mani]

You made an accusation...all I ask is that you back it up. I would like nothing better than to be proved wrong about you.

Remind me what my accusation was again? If anyone here made a clear accusation it was you about me. Consider it proven wrong.

 

[Mani]

Left field called, it wants its post back.

Because there are no stupid white people. True story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiKANhznPlI

Speaking of left field, nice (ill)logical extension.

 

[bfdd]

The funny thing is I had no idea she was black until I read that, I didn't click the links just read the pasted article.

sames, i actually figured she was white because of what it said about her ancestor helping the Confederacy and owning a plantation.

 

[bfdd]

There's books written on this stuff. The word "handouts" is a psychologically charged term often used to evoke images of welfare recipients, which are commonly stereotyped as black. That doesn't mean anyone who uses the term is a racist, or even that everyone who uses/ reads it interprets it that way, but the OP in particular has a history of race-baiting on these forums.

There are more white people on welfare than black people, why would you assume(you know what happens when you assume right?) that we think black when welfare or "handouts" are mentioned?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

There's books written on this stuff. The word "handouts" is a psychologically charged term often used to evoke images of welfare recipients, which are commonly stereotyped as black. That doesn't mean anyone who uses the term is a racist, or even that everyone who uses/ reads it interprets it that way, but the OP in particular has a history of race-baiting on these forums.

So...you consider the word "handouts" a racist innuendo? Seriously. You tell me that Specop 007 has a history of race baiting in these forums...maybe true...I don't know. But all I see is you coming into this thread being the first one to bring racism into the discussion based on your perception that "handouts" is a racist code word. Yes, I do imagine that there are many books written on this stuff...especially in Psychology (see 'Projection' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection?wwparam=1272397603 )

Now that we all now understand what the word "handouts" really means...let's look at the following comment you made:

"Awesome, you guys have a new idiot to model your perceptions of all black people after." - Mani

It's not only about Specop 007 anymore is it? Tell me...who exactly are you talking about here when you say "you guys"? Please shed some light on this...perhaps I've somehow misunderstood you and have unfairly accused you.

 

[MJinZ]

Why is her lack of gratitude any worse than public employees expecting her to gush on about how wonderful they are? I guess the entire point in being a progressive and sticking up for the "little guy" against the powerful (e.g. middle class taxpayers) if those you help see you as just a gullible do-gooder rather than as a Robin Hood figure worthy of praise.

You forgot the 3 other private organizations that probably paid thousands to keep this piece of trash out of the can....

 

[Fern]

I knew right away she was Black.
-snip-

Geez, I didn't. But I guess that's because i read the article posted and noted this:

After the hearing, Adams said she's a proud Florida native, a descendent of David Levy Yulee, a former U.S. senator and plantation owner who built the Yulee Railroad line in North Florida in the mid 1800s and was later imprisoned for aiding the Confederacy.

I was thinking some white trash weirdo (God wants me to have a zillion babies I can't care for) too.

Fern

 

[MJinZ]

Oh, congratulations if you were naive enough to imagine the person was white. That isn't a bad thing.

Angel Adams. I didn't click on the link and I assumed that she was either Hispanic or White, not black based on her location (Florida).

 

[MJinZ]

Geez, I didn't. But I guess that's because i read the article posted and noted this:



I was thinking some white trash weirdo (God wants me to have a zillion babies I can't care for) too.

Fern

Yep, that was one of the reasons I eliminated Black from possibilities. I suppose she has a white ancestor, doesn't mean she's not black now.

 

[Mani]

There are more white people on welfare than black people, why would you assume(you know what happens when you assume right?) that we think black when welfare or "handouts" are mentioned?

Absolute numbers have nothing to do with it. Perception in this stems from black overrepresentation among welfare recipients.

 

[TwinsenTacquito]

Awesome, you guys have a new idiot to model your perceptions of all black people after.

Oh, she's black?! Phew! I wanted to hate her, but wasn't going to until I saw proof that she wasn't white. I need this information before I can openly hate a person.

Somebody please find me a black person to kill, I'm bored and have nothing to do.

Where did I put my whip?