Mother Jones-black gun ownership is up and climbing

[Artdeco]

http://archive.is/RucVp

Interesting, can't blame them for wanting to protect themselves.

The number of black Americans who own guns appears to be on the rise. According to a 2014 Pew survey, 19 percent of black adults said they owned a gun, up from 15 percent in 2013. In another 2014 survey, 54 percent of black adults said they believed owning a gun makes people safer. Two years earlier, only 29 percent said so

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[ivwshane]

Should we now expect the NRA and by extension the Republicans to come out now in favor of gun control?

Interesting indeed.

 

[Artdeco]

Should we now expect the NRA and by extension the Republicans to come out now in favor of gun control?

Interesting indeed.

There's quite a few blacks that belong to the NRA.

Do you ever get tired of spinning things? I'd be dizzy as hell were I you.

 

[ivwshane]

There's quite a few blacks that belong to the NRA.

Do you ever get tired of spinning things? I'd be dizzy as hell were I you.

I asked a simple question based on the history of the NRA.

I'm sorry if you feel I interrupted what you hoped to be a gun nut circle jerk but if you only want responses from like minded individuals then perhaps you should start your own forum.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Should we now expect the NRA and by extension the Republicans to come out now in favor of gun control?

Interesting indeed.

interestingly enough, this was the reason for the open-carry ban in california way back in the day.

sadly, many gun laws were passed with this same underhanded intention, and only a thin facade of "increased public safety"or some other thing

 

[ivwshane]

interestingly enough, this was the reason for the open-carry ban in california way back in the day.

sadly, many gun laws were passed with this same underhanded intention, and only a thin facade of "increased public safety"or some other thing

Bingo!

 

[Artdeco]

I think the open carry thing is stupid as hell and does more damage than it's advocates realize.

ivwshane, the NRA doesn't release their demographics, so we can't prove anything.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I think the open carry thing is stupid as hell and does more damage than it's advocates realize.

ivwshane, the NRA doesn't release their demographics, so we can't prove anything.

i agree that open carry is stupid - and the reason for that isn't because it's really dangerous, it's because of the perception. it's so rare that it's bizarre, and people get scared.

it'd be like someone walking around in a neon pink suit - it would grab your attention and you'd go "wtf that's not normal"

 

[glenn1]

I think the open carry thing is stupid as hell and does more damage than it's advocates realize.

While true it's also moot. You don't get to restrict the legitimate rights of others simply because they're idiots about how they exercise them or if they do so in a calculated way simply to be transgressive just to get a rise out of others. If that were the case then lots of people would need to have their mouths duct taped shut to prevent them from exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

 

[Artdeco]

i agree that open carry is stupid - and the reason for that isn't because it's really dangerous, it's because of the perception. it's so rare that it's bizarre, and people get scared.

it'd be like someone walking around in a neon pink suit - it would grab your attention and you'd go "wtf that's not normal"

The only positive thing it does is if your CC weapon is seen accidentally, you don't get in trouble, but the folks carrying AR's or large pistols are really bad public images.

 

[werepossum]

There's quite a few blacks that belong to the NRA.

Do you ever get tired of spinning things? I'd be dizzy as hell were I you.

That's because you have something between your outer ears. If you too were blessed with a vacuum there, then you could spin everything just like Shane.

 

[spacejamz]

How do they count the number of firearms by gang members??? I wouldn't think they would respond to this type of survey....

 

[Jaskalas]

Interesting, can't blame them for wanting to protect themselves.

From each other, or the police?
Because two cases recently demonstrate how deadly it is to carry when police stop you.

 

[Jaskalas]

How do they count the number of firearms by gang members??? I wouldn't think they would respond to this type of survey....

Count the number of people shot in major cities, and guesstimate from there?

 

[blankslate]

Personally speaking I am fine with more non-caucasians owning firearms.

Hopefully BLM gets some sense and arms themselves as well...


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[1sikbITCH]

Personally speaking I am fine with more non-caucasians owning firearms.

Hopefully BLM gets some sense and arms themselves as well...


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Not sure what city you live in but black people are plenty armed here, and killing each other. Black lives only seem to matter when white folks and cops are doing the killing.

 

[Subyman]

When more people think owning a gun makes them safer, that should be a warning sign of the increasing suspicion we have toward one another.

 

[Perknose]

ivwshane, the NRA doesn't release their demographics, so we can't prove anything.

Yeah, how could anyone possibly get any sort of handle on their demographics? :hmm:

In other news, here are pics from their 2016 annual meetings:

So, ummmm, where's Elmo X? ()

 

[Genx87]

http://archive.is/RucVp

Interesting, can't blame them for wanting to protect themselves.

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Time to start banning or implementing costly restrictions. Cant have minorities arming themselves.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Good. The 2nd amendment covers all Americans. I wouldn't be surprised to see gun ownership increase among the LGBT community too.

 

[blankslate]

Not sure what city you live in but black people are plenty armed here, and killing each other. Black lives only seem to matter when white folks and cops are doing the killing.

Not surprisingly a lot of white people are killing white people. A lot of killers murder someone they know. So it follows that more people are killed by a member of their "race". A white person is more likely to be killed by a white person, a hispanic person is more likely to be killed by a hispanic person, etc. etc.

When a member of one race kills a member another race it is likely to gather more attention. In the case of BLM it gets attention because it seems to be the rare occasion when a white police officer is put on trial for an encounter where a black person seems to be killed unnecessarily.

Maybe we can blame the media for it's coverage skewing that perception.

However, you didn't address my other point.... which is that more non-whites legally owning firearms is a good thing.



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[Artdeco]

Yeah, how could anyone possibly get any sort of handle on their demographics? :hmm:

In other news, here are pics from their 2016 annual meetings:



So, ummmm, where's Elmo X? ()

Why are we talking about the NRA?

Did I miss something? Could have sworn the subject was blacks buying guns.

More black buying guns increases the chances the NRA will become more integrated.

 

[glenn1]

Not surprisingly a lot of white people are killing white people. A lot of killers murder someone they know. So it follows that more people are killed by a member of their "race". A white person is more likely to be killed by a white person, a hispanic person is more likely to be killed by a hispanic person, etc. etc.

When a member of one race kills a member another race it is likely to gather more attention. In the case of BLM it gets attention because it seems to be the rare occasion when a white police officer is put on trial for an encounter where a black person seems to be killed unnecessarily.

Maybe we can blame the media for it's coverage skewing that perception.

However, you didn't address my other point.... which is that more non-whites legally owning firearms is a good thing.



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True but also misleading. Per capita rate is the better measure than net totals and blacks are killed and kill at per capita rates vastly higher than other races. They also are involved in committing interracial homicides at much higher rates than other races.

No argument on the statement that increased lawful firearm ownership by non-whites is a good thing.

 

[MongGrel]

Why are we talking about the NRA?

Did I miss something? Could have sworn the subject was blacks buying guns.

More black buying guns increases the chances the NRA will become more integrated.

Yes, you missed something, like the NRA being directly involved in gun ownership to begin with. Is their purpose for existing, but your just being obtuse intentionally on that one.

And before you go off on a tangent of there are other things they are involved in, they all relate to ownership to begin with.

You were the one that said a lot of blacks belong to the NRA to begin with, wonder why the pics were posted ...

 

[Artdeco]

Yes, you missed something, like the NRA being directly involved in gun ownership to begin with. Is their purpose for existing, but your just being obtuse intentionally on that one.

And before you go off on a tangent of there are other things they are involved in, they all relate to ownership to begin with.

Ok, so the NRA is a white racist orginazation.

Doesn't change the fact that more blacks are buying guns.