Most US Youths can't find Iraq on a Map

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BDawg

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Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: CaesarX
Just saw that on CNN. Turns out 1/3 of them can't find the Pacific Ocean on the map either.

Seems like you have about a 1 in 3 chance of pointing anywhere on a globe and it being the Pacific Ocean. :)

Um. Last time I checked, we had 4 oceans.

Arctic
Indian
Pacific
Atlantic

-PAB

I think it has more to do with the amount of area covered by the Pacific.....:)
Ah...touché :)

Man PAB, I didn't think anyone would get lost on my comment. :)
 

PsychoAndy

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Dec 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: CaesarX
Just saw that on CNN. Turns out 1/3 of them can't find the Pacific Ocean on the map either.

Seems like you have about a 1 in 3 chance of pointing anywhere on a globe and it being the Pacific Ocean. :)

Um. Last time I checked, we had 4 oceans.

Arctic
Indian
Pacific
Atlantic

-PAB

I think it has more to do with the amount of area covered by the Pacific.....:)
Ah...touché :)

Man PAB, I didn't think anyone would get lost on my comment. :)

Ah, ok. I was using the reasoning of "Seems like you have about a 1 in 3 chance of pointing anywhere on a globe and it being the Pacific Ocean" in regard to probabilty (X/4). I've been up since 2AM, so I may be....well. Weirder than weird.

-PAB
 

damiano

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May 29, 2002
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Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
This worries me more.

"WHERE IN THE WORLD
Among 18- to 24-year-old Americans given maps:

87 percent cannot find Iraq

83 percent cannot find Afghanistan

76 percent cannot find Saudi Arabia

70 percent cannot find New Jersey

49 percent cannot find New York

11 percent cannot find the United States "

-PAB

Most of them cannot find France or italy either...
and most of them think that people in brazil do not have cars and live in trees and that pizza is an american invention !!!
This was my experience when I moved from France to the US.
It's just that americans do not find it important to know about the rest of the world as they know they are the most powerful...
In my point of view, it's a mistake, but hey, people here live happy without giving a sh!t of what's happening in the rest of the world.
Too bad for them they are not more open-minded...
 

lozina

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: damiano
Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
This worries me more.

"WHERE IN THE WORLD
Among 18- to 24-year-old Americans given maps:

87 percent cannot find Iraq

83 percent cannot find Afghanistan

76 percent cannot find Saudi Arabia

70 percent cannot find New Jersey

49 percent cannot find New York

11 percent cannot find the United States "

-PAB

Most of them cannot find France or italy either...
and most of them think that people in brazil do not have cars and live in trees and that pizza is an american invention !!!
This was my experience when I moved from France to the US.
It's just that americans do not find it important to know about the rest of the world as they know they are the most powerful...
In my point of view, it's a mistake, but hey, people here live happy without giving a sh!t of what's happening in the rest of the world.
Too bad for them they are not more open-minded...

You're right, it is a mistake. Ignorance is part of the reason Bush is able to start stripping away our consitutional rights without anyone really caring/noticing.

 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: damiano
Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
This worries me more.

"WHERE IN THE WORLD
Among 18- to 24-year-old Americans given maps:

87 percent cannot find Iraq

83 percent cannot find Afghanistan

76 percent cannot find Saudi Arabia

70 percent cannot find New Jersey

49 percent cannot find New York

11 percent cannot find the United States "

-PAB

Most of them cannot find France or italy either...
and most of them think that people in brazil do not have cars and live in trees and that pizza is an american invention !!!
This was my experience when I moved from France to the US.
It's just that americans do not find it important to know about the rest of the world as they know they are the most powerful...
In my point of view, it's a mistake, but hey, people here live happy without giving a sh!t of what's happening in the rest of the world.
Too bad for them they are not more open-minded...

You're right, it is a mistake. Ignorance is part of the reason Bush is able to start stripping away our consitutional rights without anyone really caring/noticing.


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diamondgoat53

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Sep 23, 2001
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ok Mr. Constitution, what rights? i'm tired of this crapola. non-lawyers arguing things they can't begin to understand. popping off about things they read, or heard. the hell with "precedent" or "rule of law." what about our feelings? don't they count? the same liberal elitist attitude that got us here. well, i'm smarter than you, so let me handle your money. i'll spend it where it should go. seems to have worked for education, right? your beloved NEA will never allow change. think back, those of you who are actually old enough to have been to college. what were the Ed. majors? people who couldn't cut it in anything else, mostly. of course there are those noble few who actually care, but realistically, we all remember who these people were. and we're surprised they can't teach?
 

Jzero

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: xuanman
so i'm wondering: what in the world DO they teach in schools?

"When taking a standardized multiple choice test, first try to eliminate answers that are obviously incorrect, and then pare down the remaining answers as best you can. Essays and open-ended questions must ONLY have 5 paragraphs. The first paragraph must contain a thesis statement and a brief overview of the next 3 paragraphs which will contain 3 points supporting the thesis statement. The final paragraph will restate the thesis statement and summarize the previous 3 paragraphs."

:p
 

lozina

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Sep 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: diamondgoat53
ok Mr. Constitution, what rights? i'm tired of this crapola. non-lawyers arguing things they can't begin to understand. popping off about things they read, or heard.

So, we have to officially be lawyers in order to discuss anything to do with the Constitution? With your strong words, I guess you must be an acclaimed attorney then, otherwise you'd be brekaing your own rule about non-lawyers talking about law or politics. And how are people supposed to learn if they cannot read or listen? Is knowlege somethign that travels through the air and you have to use extra-sensory powers to obtain it? I'm sorry I can't read the rest of your post it's virtually unintelligible.


 

JellyBaby

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Apr 21, 2000
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But they can find $100 designer jeans in the mall and they do have dad's sympathy money to purchase them...so I'd say it's a wash.

Besides we live in the grand times of social promotion. They get an A+ for trying.
 

Cyberian

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Jun 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
This worries me more.

"WHERE IN THE WORLD
Among 18- to 24-year-old Americans given maps:

87 percent cannot find Iraq

83 percent cannot find Afghanistan

76 percent cannot find Saudi Arabia

70 percent cannot find New Jersey

49 percent cannot find New York

11 percent cannot find the United States "

-PAB
There may be a good reason for this.

 

Mucman

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 1999
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I just got 100% on the NG quiz... pretty darn easy.

pretty sad that only 17% of Americans know where Afghanistan is...
 

308nato

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Speaking of reading, how many times have you read the Patriot Act from stem to stern? If you have read it, please point out to me by page and section number the exact items whereby any constitutional rights are being taken away from you.

Hearsay is not allowed. I want the specific items from the legislation which you are refering to.
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
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But they can find $100 designer jeans in the mall and they do have dad's sympathy money to purchase them...so I'd say it's a wash.
LOL! You are not far off.

This is really not funny at all, its a tragedy if you think about it. While I used to think that schools were failing to educate, I have since made a complete reversal of my opinion. The fact is, you cannot teach anything to a kid who doesn't give a flying turd, let alone entire generations of kids who don't give a flying turd, and apathy is the most daunting problem facing our schools and educators, not funding or class sizes.

I went to a pretty decent public school, in terms of academic rank and things like graduation rates, not in terms of funding or amenities. In fact, our school would likely have been condemned by today's definition of a 'disadvantaged' school. We had older books, rickety old desks, a few broken windows, water damaged ceiling tiles, cracks in the walls, an old boiler system that never worked right, so you froze your ass off in the morning hours, then sweated your ass off in the afternoon hours, among other things. However, nobody noticed or cared because our school was predominantly white, and there was no 'white victimhood' lobby to wail about the condition of our school. But that is another discussion altogether...

I distinctly remember several students who academically were just getting by, probably couldn't tell you the name of the then-current US President, but they had an encyclopedic knowledge of utterly useless sports trivia. They could tell you the names, numbers, stats, teams, years, colleges, home towns, awards, everything.

Its all about the priorities of the community, the parents, and the students, funding has little to do with it. Even in the most impoverished school systems, you can find children doing academically well. In the most well funded school systems, you can find children doing horribly.

I have all but stopped criticizing teachers and educators because I've gotten a glimpse of what they have to face day-in and day-out; children who don't give a f-ck about school, only about MTV and shopping malls and who's wearing what designer clothes and socializing between classes.

And it is NOT a teacher's responsibility or obligation to 'motivate' students who otherwise lack it, it is a parent's. Even if it were a teacher's responsibility, they will only be able to reach but a fraction of the student's who are not receiving the motivation from home, because that's where it starts.
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: klah
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
So is this a labeled map they used?

Heck I would have a somewhat hard time if they just handed me a map with blobs of color

If it was a labeled map then thats just really sad

This Is The Map That They Used

edit: ;)

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