If he was still in office, the economy would still be sucking right now. There is nothing he could have done to stop the tech bubble.
If he was still in office, the economy would still be sucking right now. There is nothing he could have done to stop the tech bubble.
maybe we should bundle in some of the previous resolutions concerning israel in the interests of fairness and world peace
Sure while speaking of fairness, why dont we write a few up on the other side of that story. Oh, what those already exist.
I'm sure you could explain in detail exactly how he did both? Oh and please not just with your usual babble but with some real links that detail how Bush was responsible for either of those things.
IT IS SO RETARDED. People act like Clinton made the economy. Are they so stupid they do not realize that Reagan and Bush Sr. are the ones that setup the economy. Do you think that Clinton made so much difference within 6 months of taking office???? Give me a break. Clinton had about as much to do with the economy as he did having a fulfilling sexual relationship with Hillary.
I just find it amazing that people think Clinton made the economy. The economy started going down the crapper because Clinton didn't know what he was doing and left it in terrible shape for Bush Jr.
As for Cali's power problems. That was the cali governments fault. They bought that on themselves. Not building new power plants while increasing population. Idiots. Plain and simple. It was not Bush's fault that the politicians made foolish decisions before Bush ever took his oath of office.
I agree that Kosovo is European's problem but they were not doing anything about it,
and we couldn't sit idly by and watch widespread ethnic cleansing by Serb forces.
I think we did the right thing by intervening, I just wish it was sooner to prevent massive killings.
They're not even doing a very good job of that. Ivory Coast just recently asked for our help in dealing with their problem because France's plan sucks.
Bush is trusted by the public to a far greater degree than Clinton ever was....
Even if you disagree with him, you must admit he is at least honest as politicians go.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Had no trouble stealing the Presidency even though he knew he really lost the election. Bush is lying about Iraq. WE have completely different motivations for invading Iraq than those expressed. The american people will not send their sons to die for oil or imperial expansionism. So they lie.
Even if you disagree with him, you must admit he is at least honest as politicians go.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Had no trouble stealing the Presidency even though he knew he really lost the election. Bush is lying about Iraq. WE have completely different motivations for invading Iraq than those expressed. The american people will not send their sons to die for oil or imperial expansionism. So they lie.
If the U.S. finally makes the decision to go in with a small group of allies behind it you can bet your ass that France and Germany will be doing everything in their power to support (or appear to support) that effort. They don't want to be left out in the cold when the economic pie that is post-war Iraq is divided up.
It's just a question of whether France & Germany can do a 180 from their current anti-war position without losing face...and Powell's presentation will give them the opening they need. They won't actually be convinced by the new evidence, but they'll say they were and slide into line...holding their trays out for a great big helping of that sweet, sweet Iraqi oil.
It's just a question of whether France & Germany can do a 180 from their current anti-war position without losing face...and Powell's presentation will give them the opening they need. They won't actually be convinced by the new evidence, but they'll say they were and slide into line...holding their trays out for a great big helping of that sweet, sweet Iraqi oil.
You should put that in your sig so you don't have to keep typing it.
Prove it.
No they won't and no one is asking them to.
Again, prove it. Show me hard proof that we are going to Iraq to take over the oil fields and I will walk into my Captains office tommorow and tell her I quit.
It's put up or shut up time, Moonie. You can make a hundred good arguments for not going to war in Iraq. However, just like many of those retards I see protesting the war, the "Bush is evil", "No blood for Oil", "Bush is a fascist" arguments aren't going to cut it. Those arguments,and the people who spew them, will continue to remain on the fringe right where they belong.
Clinton can't take credit for the economy, and he shouldn't be blamed for the current state of the economy either. Take a careful look at the 90s, and you'll see that people's expectations went wild. Communications companies went billions into debt betting on future demand for fiberoptics. Investors put their lifes savings into Pets.com, saw it rise 1000%, and went out and bought a new Mercedes. People went crazy over industries that simply weren't making a profit, and then were surprised when it all came crashing down. Clinton couldn't control how people thought, and it's rediculous to believe that the government, indeed one person, has that great an influence over something as complex as the US economy.
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So the President should have gone in agreeing with the program, then break his word, going completely against our allies. Well, although I would have liked to see Saddam gone, I am glad that Bush the first had more character than that.
Tell you what. Let's just finish this, and kill every living thing on the planet. First put a big flag on the North Pole so if any intelligent beings ever come from outer space, they know who won.
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That is what is known as a ..
Straw Man (Fallacy Of Extension):
attacking an exaggerated or caricatured version of your opponent's position.
That is what is known as a ..
Straw Man (Fallacy Of Extension):
attacking an exaggerated or caricatured version of your opponent's position.
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No, that is me being frustrated with people and throwing up my hands in a metaphorical sense. Methinks you get frustrated too sometimes
DaveSohmer Quote:
"Again, prove it. Show me hard proof that we are going to Iraq to take over the oil fields and I will walk into my Captains office tommorow and tell her I quit.
It's put up or shut up time, Moonie. You can make a hundred good arguments for not going to war in Iraq. However, just like many of those retards I see protesting the war, the "Bush is evil", "No blood for Oil", "Bush is a fascist" arguments aren't going to cut it. Those arguments,and the people who spew them, will continue to remain on the fringe right where they belong."
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I can't show you the proof, Dave. You will just have to trust me. If I show you the proof it would compromise my sources
All I can tell you is that it's not about oil, it's about a new American imperialism. Oil is just a factor. Just keep this under your hat. It may be years before the truth leaks out.
"Again, prove it. Show me hard proof that we are going to Iraq to take over the oil fields and I will walk into my Captains office tommorow and tell her I quit.
It's put up or shut up time, Moonie. You can make a hundred good arguments for not going to war in Iraq. However, just like many of those retards I see protesting the war, the "Bush is evil", "No blood for Oil", "Bush is a fascist" arguments aren't going to cut it. Those arguments,and the people who spew them, will continue to remain on the fringe right where they belong."
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I can't show you the proof, Dave. You will just have to trust me. If I show you the proof it would compromise my sources
All I can tell you is that it's not about oil, it's about a new American imperialism. Oil is just a factor. Just keep this under your hat. It may be years before the truth leaks out.
They were not constacted about it - the US has achieved what they tried to do - drive a wedge into Europe...
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