Most influential people in gaming, wat!?

[Bateluer]

Saw this over at /r/gaming. What the bloody heck!? A fringe nutjob critic gets 20 places higher than John Freaking Carmack on this list?

 

[Via]

Maybe they were afraid if they didn't rank her so high she'd come after them.

 

[Barfo]

meh

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Saw this over at /r/gaming. What the bloody heck!? A fringe nutjob critic gets 20 places higher than John Freaking Carmack on this list?

What has Carmack done lately? Sure he can blow your mind with technical talk about game engines, but he sure as hell can't make a great video game anymore.

 

[Bateluer]

What has Carmack done lately? Sure he can blow your mind with technical talk about game engines, but he sure as hell can't make a great video game anymore.

Carmack pretty much invented about 99% of modern gaming and coding.

 

[mizzou]

i can't find the source of the original list

 

[mizzou]

oh here it is

http://www.oxm.co.uk/57106/features/the-100-most-important-people-in-the-world-of-xbox/?page=4

it's most important people of XBOX

 

[mizzou]

this however is pure bullshit. I like what notch did, he capitalized on a market that was untapped and is now being exploited (and in my opinion doesn't have it's biggest major hit yet or statement game). He seems like a nice guy, and smart, but he right now is just a one hit wonder and history hasn't had a chance to judge his influence yet.

3. Markus 'Notch' Persson, founder, Mojang

He's no longer making Minecraft, but Notch is still a huge figure as a result of what his game has achieved, bringing in new players and inspiring new indie devs. Every platform holder has to be hoping he brings his next project, 0x10c, to their machine.

 

[Via]

Thanks for posting the list, I couldn't find it.

Curious choice: JJ Abrams at 57.

 

[mizzou]

10. Patrick Bach, executive producer, DICE

For an alternative to CoD's comic book balderdash, look to Bach and his team's work on Battlefield. Their more sober take on war is no less thunderous, Bach's vision for dynamic and open conflict serving a more progressive design philosophy.

 

[Jodell88]

this however is pure bullshit. I like what notch did, he capitalized on a market that was untapped and is now being exploited (and in my opinion doesn't have it's biggest major hit yet or statement game). He seems like a nice guy, and smart, but he right now is just a one hit wonder and history hasn't had a chance to judge his influence yet.

3. Markus 'Notch' Persson, founder, Mojang

He's no longer making Minecraft, but Notch is still a huge figure as a result of what his game has achieved, bringing in new players and inspiring new indie devs. Every platform holder has to be hoping he brings his next project, 0x10c, to their machine.

You forgot Scrolls which is in open beta right now.

 

[BrightCandle]

So instead of listing out the guys who actually made modern computer engines, influential game genres and who designed breakthroughs like 3D graphics and engines they think the CEOs of a few games companies are the most influential individuals along with a guy who has made one game.

What I load of bullshit. I will remember for ever more that OXM hasn't the first clue about the industry, not a clue.

 

[Craig234]

Same issue as top games - are you counting the developer of Everquest based on the huge impact he had on MMO's, or his situation today where he's been out of the industry for many years?

 

[sweenish]

You forgot Scrolls which is in open beta right now.

Scrolls isn't exactly a hit yet. And there's been no peeps on his spaceship game, either.

Cherry Poppin' Daddies released a whole album, don't forget that.

 

[Rinaun]

LOL the fact that she even made this list shows how bad the article itself is. This is maybe one step from the silly lists cracked.com make for a living. A bit sensationalist of an article with little guidance on what exactly makes them influential.

 

[Tsavo]

Carmack pretty much invented about 99% of modern gaming and coding.

Not so much.

 

[dighn]

who the fuck is that?

 

[Rinaun]

Not so much.

Y-you're joking, right?

From Wiki:

Carmack was the lead programmer of the id video games Commander Keen, Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake, Rage and their sequels.

more info:

Carmack has pioneered or popularised the use of many techniques in computer graphics, including "adaptive tile refresh" for Commander Keen, raycasting for Hovertank 3-D, Catacomb 3-D, and Wolfenstein 3-D, binary space partitioning which Doom became the first game to use, surface caching which he invented for Quake, Carmack's Reverse (formally known as z-fail stencil shadows) which he devised for Doom 3, and MegaTexture technology, first used in Enemy Territory: Quake Wars. Carmack's engines have also been licensed for use in other influential first-person shooters such as Half-Life, Call of Duty and Medal of Honor. In 2007, when Carmack was on vacation with his wife, he ended up playing some games on his cellphone, and decided he was going to make a good mobile game.[3][4]

So TLDR Carmack didn't help invent gaming, but he's worked on almost every single good FPS in the last 2-3 decades, and the ones he DIDN'T work on had been influenced one way or another by his works. Saying Carmack didn't drastically help bring gaming (especially FPSes) closer to mainstream is like saying Walt Disney didn't help 3d animation because he never did a CGI film. I guess we forget that the games are still made using the same processes only edited slightly for new features.

 

[aigomorla]

i dont see how carmack is even ranked 61 to begin with.
He's the guy who made Doom, Wolfenstien, Quake....
He should be within the top 10... he's quite honestly the father of FPS.

Who the hell is that old lady.. what the hell is frequency to begin with..
Obviously its nowhere near important as ID software...

It makes me wonder who is making these lists...
There seriously starting to demoralize the age group of our gaming community.

Im sure u guys saw how bigger of a joke PC Gamers top 100 games of all time was.

Not so much.

he's the father of FPS!!!!

who is that lady?!?!?!? this is honestly my first time hearing her name...

. Saying Carmack didn't drastically help bring gaming (especially FPSes) closer to mainstream is like saying Walt Disney didn't help 3d animation because he never did a CGI film. I guess we forget that the games are still made using the same processes only edited slightly for new features.

im glad im not the only one who see's it that way...
Without Carmack... the first person shooter most likely would of been MAJORLY delayed and played late... not allowing it to mature into what it is today.

 

[CrystalBay]

Where is Ken Levine the savior in all this ? Seriously this is not a factual poll
:whiste:

 

[Tsavo]

Y-you're joking, right?

The OP said he invented 99% of modern gaming and coding, which is an absurd claim on any level.

 

[ViperXX]

So where did John Romero rank? He should get just as much credit as Carmack. And then there's Cliff Bleszinski. These are the rock stars of gaming.

 

[BladeVenom]

it's most important people of XBOX

So it's a Microsoft list, and we all know how out of touch with reality MS is nowadays. This list is as stupid as Windows RT.

 

[smakme7757]

Simply put we are heading into new times.

Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Commander Keen, Duke Nukem 3D were all great games when i was growing up, but the newer generations haven't even heard of them. Maybe a few of the later releases like Doom 3, but they have absolutely no connection between the sequels and the importance of the originals.

It's all Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Need for speed armageddon (or what ever). If you ask if they have played the Need for Speed (The original) they will ask if they can get it on Xbox or PS2.

 

[chalmers]

The OP said he invented 99% of modern gaming and coding, which is an absurd claim on any level.

Pretty sure any realistic person would realize he was exaggerating.