Most grammatical errors don't bother me, but...

CurseTheSky

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It irks me when people write "needs fixed."

ARGH.

Needs fixing - not a complete sentence, but we get the idea. Fine with me.
Needs wheel fixed - sounds like a note someone wrote. No problem.
Needs paint - again, we're ok here.
Needs attention - yup.
Needs fixed - NO NO NO NO NO.

You don't NEED a verb. Needs jog? Doesn't work. Needs eat? Sounds like a caveman. Needs *a* jog? Fine. Needs *to* eat? There we go. Needs eaten? Past-tense is even worse. Blech.

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HN

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Call waaaaaambulance.

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slag

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Actually, its ok. The correct sentence would be "It needs to be fixed" or possibly "It needs repaired"

In your example above, the words "it", "to", and "be" are implied.
 

HN

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Actually, its ok. The correct sentence would be "It needs to be fixed" or possibly "It needs repaired"

In your example above, the words "it", "to", and "be" are implied.

Know and Ngo.
 

smackababy

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Actually, its ok. The correct sentence would be "It needs to be fixed" or possibly "It needs repaired"

In your example above, the words "it", "to", and "be" are implied.

This. The subject of the sentence is implied.
 

pete6032

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"Needs + verb" is actually part of some geographic vernacular in the United States. In some parts of the southeast its commonplace to say "the dishes need dried," or "the car needs fixed." Sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me but not everyone speaks the same.
 

squarecut1

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"Needs + verb" is actually part of some geographic vernacular in the United States. In some parts of the southeast its commonplace to say "the dishes need dried," or "the car needs fixed." Sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me but not everyone speaks the same.

Not everyone speaks correct English.
 
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It irks me when people write "needs fixed."

ARGH.

Needs fixing - not a complete sentence, but we get the idea. Fine with me.
Needs wheel fixed - sounds like a note someone wrote. No problem.
Needs paint - again, we're ok here.
Needs attention - yup.
Needs fixed - NO NO NO NO NO.

You don't NEED a verb. Needs jog? Doesn't work. Needs eat? Sounds like a caveman. Needs *a* jog? Fine. Needs *to* eat? There we go. Needs eaten? Past-tense is even worse. Blech.

/rant

Agreed. Why can't they type "Needs to be fixed"?
 
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Actually, its ok. The correct sentence would be "It needs to be fixed" or possibly "It needs repaired"

In your example above, the words "it", "to", and "be" are implied.

"It needs repaired" is the same as "Needs fixed". Just wrong.

Add a "to be" after the "needs" and you're all set.
 

Aikouka

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This. The subject of the sentence is implied.

The subject is implied, but that's not what the OP is complaining about. He doesn't like that they're not including the particle ("to") and the auxiliary verb ("be") with the past participle ("fixed"); the sentence should at least be written as "needs to be fixed" (with an optional subject).

(Pretty sure I got all those grammatical terms right. There are so many damn terms that I usually get them mixed up!)
 

02ranger

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I don't know if you could classify it as a "grammatical error," though.

Why is it that if enough people say something incorrectly, it becomes correct? Like the word ain't for instance. It is now officially a word in Webster's dictionary because so many people used it. It really shouldn't be, IMHO. I'm fine with words/phrases becoming acceptable to most people in everyday conversation after enough use, but should we really change the language to make it officially correct? Before long "correct" English speakers will sound like idiots because of all the crap that's entered into the language!
 

dainthomas

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"Needs + verb" is actually part of some geographic vernacular in the United States. In some parts of the southeast its commonplace to say "the dishes need dried," or "the car needs fixed." Sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me but not everyone speaks the same.
Good lord, right up there with "oh for funny" in the upper Midwest.
 

kranky

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Where I grew up that's how people talked. "Needs washed"... "needs fixed"... "needs moved".

When I started journalism classes, the professor had list of local expressions which were not proper English, and made sure everyone in the class knew them. THAT's when I first learned it was improper. "Needs TO BE fixed" or "Needs fixing" is OK.

It was a revelation to me, and I'm not surprised that people say it. It might be all they ever heard.

Now the woman at work who says "supposably" instead of supposedly... that's nails on a chalkboard to me. :)
 

02ranger

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Where I grew up that's how people talked. "Needs washed"... "needs fixed"... "needs moved".

When I started journalism classes, the professor had list of local expressions which were not proper English, and made sure everyone in the class knew them. THAT's when I first learned it was improper. "Needs TO BE fixed" or "Needs fixing" is OK.

It was a revelation to me, and I'm not surprised that people say it. It might be all they ever heard.

Now the woman at work who says "supposably" instead of supposedly... that's nails on a chalkboard to me. :)

Yeah, that's annoying. The one that bugs me most is "I could care less", it's couldn't!
 
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