Mosque Bomb Kills 14 in Baghdad

Aimster

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Sunnis wish death to all Shias and Shias view Sunnis as animals. That's how I see it. They both hate each other.
 

HalosPuma

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I just don't get it. There's 1 Muslim religion, right? Then why do Sunnis and Shiites hate each other?
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Sunnis wish death to all Shias and Shias view Sunnis as animals. That's how I see it. They both hate each other.

so when I say something about Islam you jump up and down and call me a bigot, but now your generalizing about an entire religion.

By the way I never said anything nearly as offensive about Islam as you just said yet you call me all these nasty names. Whose the bigot now??

OHH I get it, since your a muslim you can say that stuff, but since im not, i cant even bring up the possibility of there being a little problem within Islam.

Some of your quotes directed at me:

"Your attempts at bashing Muslims is weak. "

" Who keeps posting threads on P&N to make Muslims look bad? Hmm ..... "

"Nice very nice. Keep up the Muslim bashing. "

"Your attempts to make Muslims look evil has yet again failed. "

"How many of these threads do you need to make? We already know your opinion and everyone knows what is going on. You keep trying to prove Muslims = evil."



I am sick of you and your evil, baseless personal attacks. I dont and will never hate any muslim or the religion of Islam. Keep your anxiety under control.
 

Aimster

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How is this problem with Islam directed towards you?

This is a problem the Muslim community faces. It doesn't concern you or me.

Unlike you I don't try to make anyone look good or bad. You don't know my stand on anything.

 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
How is this problem with Islam directed towards you?

This is a problem the Muslim community faces. It doesn't concern you or me.

I

This is only your opinion.

oh my how could you suggest ALL sunni's want to kill ALL shia's.

are you a bigot?
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
How is this problem with Islam directed towards you?

This is a problem the Muslim community faces. It doesn't concern you or me.

I

THIS IS YOUR OPINION.

It's my opinion? It's pure fact. Look at the mosque being attacked in Iraq. Either way if I am right or wrong this is a Muslim problem. Not your problem or mine.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
How is this problem with Islam directed towards you?

This is a problem the Muslim community faces. It doesn't concern you or me.

I

THIS IS YOUR OPINION.

It's my opinion? It's pure fact. Look at the mosque being attacked in Iraq. Either way if I am right or wrong this is a Muslim problem. Not your problem or mine.

So wait a minute. When I post a thread about the violence in Iraq and radical clerics stirring up hatred against the west, you completely dismiss me as a bigot who hates Islam. When I post threads about how these terrorists blow up churches and kidnap priests, you again call me these names.

But when you claim all sunni muslims want to kill shia and vice versa, then its a fact???!!!!
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
How is this problem with Islam directed towards you?

This is a problem the Muslim community faces. It doesn't concern you or me.

I

THIS IS YOUR OPINION.

It's my opinion? It's pure fact. Look at the mosque being attacked in Iraq. Either way if I am right or wrong this is a Muslim problem. Not your problem or mine.

So wait a minute. When I post a thread about the violence in Iraq and radical clerics stirring up hatred against the west, you completely dismiss me as a bigot who hates Islam. When I post threads about how these terrorists blow up churches and kidnap priests, you again call me these names.

But when a muslim attacks a muslim, then its a fact??!!!

1) You label it as Muslims against the West. You show 1 man who has problems and you link it and say we have a major problem in Europe. The guy was banned from most mosque, so what was the point of that thread? To show that a psycho Muslim guy who is banned from Mosques is dangerous?
2) You posted a thread about a priest being kidnapped and said a Muslim did it, but in your link you showed it didn't say wether a Muslim did it or a North Korean Kim worshipper did it.

I'm not a strong supporter of Islam. I am sorry you believe I am.
I would have done the same to you if you kept posting threads about how Israel is evil and Palestine is good. How Jews are the enemy and the innocent Palestinians are victims.

You think I am a protector of Muslims? I've done Muslim bashing long before you stuck your head in P&N. I've also defended it. I've always went off at all those who said Israel is the enemy. I've done the same for people who said Israel is never to blame.

I lay it out how I see it. I don't lay the information out the way I want you to see it.

You have countless threads where their entire purpose is to make a religion look bad.

 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
How is this problem with Islam directed towards you?

This is a problem the Muslim community faces. It doesn't concern you or me.

I

THIS IS YOUR OPINION.

It's my opinion? It's pure fact. Look at the mosque being attacked in Iraq. Either way if I am right or wrong this is a Muslim problem. Not your problem or mine.

So wait a minute. When I post a thread about the violence in Iraq and radical clerics stirring up hatred against the west, you completely dismiss me as a bigot who hates Islam. When I post threads about how these terrorists blow up churches and kidnap priests, you again call me these names.

But when a muslim attacks a muslim, then its a fact??!!!

1) You label it as Muslims against the West. You show 1 man who has problems and you link it and say we have a major problem in Europe. The guy was banned from most mosque, so what was the point of that thread? To show that a psycho Muslim guy who is banned from Mosques is dangerous?
2) You posted a thread about a priest being kidnapped and said a Muslim did it, but in your link you showed it didn't say wether a Muslim did it or a North Korean Kim worshipper did it.

I'm not a strong supporter of Islam. I am sorry you believe I am.
I would have done the same to you if you kept posting threads about how Israel is evil and Palestine is good. How Jews are the enemy and the innocent Palestinians are victims.

You think I am a protector of Muslims? I've done Muslim bashing long before you stuck your head in P&N. I've also defended it. I've always went off at all those who said Israel is the enemy. I've done the same for people who said Israel is never to blame.

I lay it out how I see it. I don't lay the information out the way I want you to see it.

You have countless threads that their entire purpose is to make a religion look bad.

Of course your not a strong supporter of Islam. But how in the world can you call me a racist bigot when you just generalized about an entire religion. Your a hypocrit.

It was a story about 1 MAN, it DOES NOT mean there is only 1 man preaching hatred against the west. Use your logic, if you have any.

Again, you feel threatened or something? I posted threads about actual news stories that are occuring, and if it mentions "Islamic extremists" or radical clerics or al qaeda or whatever, dont blame me for it.

Yes, I do believe there is a strong movement within Islam that is very violent. This does not make me a bigot or racist IN ANY WAY.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
How is this problem with Islam directed towards you?

This is a problem the Muslim community faces. It doesn't concern you or me.

I

THIS IS YOUR OPINION.

It's my opinion? It's pure fact. Look at the mosque being attacked in Iraq. Either way if I am right or wrong this is a Muslim problem. Not your problem or mine.

So wait a minute. When I post a thread about the violence in Iraq and radical clerics stirring up hatred against the west, you completely dismiss me as a bigot who hates Islam. When I post threads about how these terrorists blow up churches and kidnap priests, you again call me these names.

But when a muslim attacks a muslim, then its a fact??!!!

1) You label it as Muslims against the West. You show 1 man who has problems and you link it and say we have a major problem in Europe. The guy was banned from most mosque, so what was the point of that thread? To show that a psycho Muslim guy who is banned from Mosques is dangerous?
2) You posted a thread about a priest being kidnapped and said a Muslim did it, but in your link you showed it didn't say wether a Muslim did it or a North Korean Kim worshipper did it.

I'm not a strong supporter of Islam. I am sorry you believe I am.
I would have done the same to you if you kept posting threads about how Israel is evil and Palestine is good. How Jews are the enemy and the innocent Palestinians are victims.

You think I am a protector of Muslims? I've done Muslim bashing long before you stuck your head in P&N. I've also defended it. I've always went off at all those who said Israel is the enemy. I've done the same for people who said Israel is never to blame.

I lay it out how I see it. I don't lay the information out the way I want you to see it.

You have countless threads that their entire purpose is to make a religion look bad.

Of course your not a strong supporter of Islam. But how in the world can you call me a racist bigot when you just generalized about an entire religion. Your a hypocrit.

It was a story about 1 MAN, it DOES NOT mean there is only 1 man preaching hatred against the west. Use your logic, if you have any.

Again, you feel threatened or something? I posted threads about actual news stories that are occuring, and if it mentions "Islamic extremists" or radical clerics or al qaeda or whatever, dont blame me for it.

Yes, I do believe there is a strong movement within Islam that is very violent. This does not make me a bigot or racist IN ANY WAY.

I said that comment about "wish death" with a little smile on my face. Obviously, you couldn't see that. I still stand by what I said earlier that they do not get along. Sure they can be friends, but do they have respect? Even in the U.S where people are educated I've had people look down at me because they thought I was a "Shia". Ask Shias what they think about Sunnis and some might say who care, and some will tell you they are pigs and low-class uneducated people. Ask Sunnis what they think about Shias and again some might not care, and others will say they are stupid for believing what they believe in. These are from my own experiences and my own opinion as I clearly said so.

Look at all the countries that have a large Shia/Sunni population. They are separated! They do not live mixed together. Look at Iraq for example.

Threatened? This is anandtech. Your threads make no difference to what goes on outside the world even if the entire Anandtech population decides to hate Muslims.

What was your purpose to that 9/11 thread? Why do you say "HAHA" when someone makes a negative comment about Muslims?


 

raildogg

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You people are going a bit far. There are hostilities between shias and sunnis, but for the most part and in most countries these two factions of Islam lively peacefully side by side. I dont agree with Sultan on almost anything, but in this case I do agree with him.

This kind of hatred between the two factions is really not widespread.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
You people are going a bit far. There are hostilities between shias and sunnis, but for the most part and in most countries these two factions of Islam lively peacefully side by side. I dont agree with Sultan on almost anything, but in this case I do agree with him.

This kind of hatred between the two factions is really not widespread.

Any other countries other than Iraq that have a large Shia and a large Sunni population where there could be problems? 70% vs 30%.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
You people are going a bit far. There are hostilities between shias and sunnis, but for the most part and in most countries these two factions of Islam lively peacefully side by side. I dont agree with Sultan on almost anything, but in this case I do agree with him.

This kind of hatred between the two factions is really not widespread.

Any other countries other than Iraq that have a large Shia and a large Sunni population where there could be problems? 70% vs 30%.

lebanon has a larger shia pop than sunni. i dont see any religious problems between the two

Pakistan has about 77% and 20%, so again thats a pretty big minority, especially when Pakistan is a large country with 150 million. But I will note that there have been some, but not major violence between shia and sunni there

Iran has the largest shia pop by far though
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Sunnis wish death to all Shias and Shias view Sunnis as animals. That's how I see it. They both hate each other.

No you are very very very wrong. In Iraq to the people who actually lived there out of the govt, it didn't really matter at all Only now with politicians trying to drum support for their parties they appeal to B.S. like this. It is only the "wahhabi" sect that has disdain for anything not itself.

Maybe in Iran they view it like that(I can't speak for Iran though), but a lot of the "clash" between the two groups have been artificially created. To make as generalizing statement as that is nothing short of absolutely wrong.
 

SuperTool

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Looks someone, I won't mention who, is still grasping for straws to come up with reasons for US to stay in Iraq. Iraqis killing each other is a new one.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: Aimster
Sunnis wish death to all Shias and Shias view Sunnis as animals. That's how I see it. They both hate each other.

No you are very very very wrong. In Iraq to the people who actually lived there out of the govt, it didn't really matter at all Only now with politicians trying to drum support for their parties they appeal to B.S. like this. It is only the "wahhabi" sect that has disdain for anything not itself.

Maybe in Iran they view it like that(I can't speak for Iran though), but a lot of the "clash" between the two groups have been artificially created. To make as generalizing statement as that is nothing short of absolutely wrong.

Bigotry I say, bigotry!!! (j/k)

 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Looks someone, I won't mention who, is still grasping for straws to come up with reasons for US to stay in Iraq. Iraqis killing each other is a new one.

We must stay there until the job is done. When the Iraqi's can secure the nation on their own, they we can leave. I believe there are plans in place to gradually reduce our number of troops there as Iraq's security forces grow.

Whether the number of Iraqi security forces is 120,000 as Condeleeza Rice says or 4,000 as Joe Biden says, who knows.
 

Aimster

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I don't agree with the war in Iraq. I do agree that we have to stay there. If we leave now you can bet the entire population will hate us and Iraq and Iran will go at it in another war.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
I don't agree with the war in Iraq. I do agree that we have to stay there. If we leave now you can bet the entire population will hate us and Iraq and Iran will go at it in another war.

Well, you will flame me for it, but I dont care. Iran is already conducting a secret war in Iraq by supporting all these terrorists. Iran's goal is to tear Iraq apart, destroy any hopes for success and install a shia leader sympathetic to Tehran. Of course its main enemy is the USA, but its getting at us through Iraq.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
I don't agree with the war in Iraq. I do agree that we have to stay there. If we leave now you can bet the entire population will hate us and Iraq and Iran will go at it in another war.

Well, you will flame me for it, but I dont care. Iran is already conducting a secret war in Iraq by supporting all these terrorists. Iran's goal is to tear Iraq apart, destroy any hopes for success and install a shia leader sympathetic to Tehran. Of course its main enemy is the USA, but its getting at us through Iraq.

any hard evidence Iran is supporting the terrorist?