More Unofficial Details About the RADEON 9900 Family of Products!

[Adul]

dont think this has been posted yet

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1044532924

 

[sandorski]

yum

 

[bgeh]

thanks for the link adul

 

[WyteWatt]

Adul wow it just keeps on getting more interestings! Adul did you see the review of the overclocker ATI 9700 pro level II i think it was? It a pretty nice speed increase from the default speeds but it is $399 and no warranty from ATI. So i am sure those few extra fps aren't worth it for most people. Plus i am sure its better to buy a ATI 9700 pro that has a ATI 3 year warranty or however long ATI's warranty is if you don't overclock.

 

[chizow]

Points of interest in bold:

ATI RADEON 9900 PRO will be made using 0.13 micron technology and will be hugely more powerful than the brethren. It was said that the part will contain 8 rendering pipelines with 2 TMUs per each in addition to more efficient architecture of the VPU itself compared to the original RADEON 9700. The RADEON 9900 PRO may be announced at CeBIT, but do not anticipate ATI to start selling the babe just after the launch as it is not easy to develop a 0.13 micron graphics processor. With more TMUs and higher core and memory clocks ATI wants the RADEON 9900 PRO to compete against the NV35 due this Summer, but since ATI is ahead of NVIDIA in general, they are also likely to be faster than them in particular and start offering the RADEON 9900 PRO this Spring.

Radeon 9900 = OC'd 9700pro with new shoes (copper interconnects). Probably DDR1.

Radeon 9900pro = 2 TMUs, .13 micron. Possibly DDR2, but doubtful as the DDR2 required would be much more expensive. Also the existing 4 x 64-bit memory controllers may not be able to handle DDR2, similar to the problems described in the FX 256-bit news bit.

Outlook on the 9900pro is pretty optimistic IMO, as ATi is moving to a .13 part for the first time.

Chiz

 

[Wolfsraider]

Originally posted by: imtim83
Adul wow it just keeps on getting more interestings! Adul did you see the review of the overclocker ATI 9700 pro level II i think it was? It a pretty nice speed increase from the default speeds but it is $399 and no warranty from ATI. So i am sure those few extra fps aren't worth it for most people. Plus i am sure its better to buy a ATI 9700 pro that has a ATI 3 year warranty or however long ATI's warranty is if you don't overclock.

5 year warranty on mine

 

[WyteWatt]

Wolfsraider where did you buy it please?

 

[thorin]

but do not anticipate ATI to start selling the babe just after the launch as it is not easy to develop a 0.13 micron graphics processor.

Hmmmm yet ATi fanboys still flame nVidia for their delay.

but since ATI is ahead of NVIDIA in general

Ya except that nVidia has already made the move to 0.13um.

Thorin

 

[LukFilm]

Originally posted by: chizow
Points of interest in bold:

ATI RADEON 9900 PRO will be made using 0.13 micron technology and will be hugely more powerful than the brethren. It was said that the part will contain 8 rendering pipelines with 2 TMUs per each in addition to more efficient architecture of the VPU itself compared to the original RADEON 9700. The RADEON 9900 PRO may be announced at CeBIT, but do not anticipate ATI to start selling the babe just after the launch as it is not easy to develop a 0.13 micron graphics processor. With more TMUs and higher core and memory clocks ATI wants the RADEON 9900 PRO to compete against the NV35 due this Summer, but since ATI is ahead of NVIDIA in general, they are also likely to be faster than them in particular and start offering the RADEON 9900 PRO this Spring.

Radeon 9900 = OC'd 9700pro with new shoes (copper interconnects). Probably DDR1.

Radeon 9900pro = 2 TMUs, .13 micron. Possibly DDR2, but doubtful as the DDR2 required would be much more expensive. Also the existing 4 x 64-bit memory controllers may not be able to handle DDR2, similar to the problems described in the FX 256-bit news bit.

Outlook on the 9900pro is pretty optimistic IMO, as ATi is moving to a .13 part for the first time.

Chiz

That information is completely incorrect. See Rage3D.com forums for more details.

 

[jbond04]

Originally posted by: LukFilm

Originally posted by: chizow
Points of interest in bold:

ATI RADEON 9900 PRO will be made using 0.13 micron technology and will be hugely more powerful than the brethren. It was said that the part will contain 8 rendering pipelines with 2 TMUs per each in addition to more efficient architecture of the VPU itself compared to the original RADEON 9700. The RADEON 9900 PRO may be announced at CeBIT, but do not anticipate ATI to start selling the babe just after the launch as it is not easy to develop a 0.13 micron graphics processor. With more TMUs and higher core and memory clocks ATI wants the RADEON 9900 PRO to compete against the NV35 due this Summer, but since ATI is ahead of NVIDIA in general, they are also likely to be faster than them in particular and start offering the RADEON 9900 PRO this Spring.

Radeon 9900 = OC'd 9700pro with new shoes (copper interconnects). Probably DDR1.

Radeon 9900pro = 2 TMUs, .13 micron. Possibly DDR2, but doubtful as the DDR2 required would be much more expensive. Also the existing 4 x 64-bit memory controllers may not be able to handle DDR2, similar to the problems described in the FX 256-bit news bit.

Outlook on the 9900pro is pretty optimistic IMO, as ATi is moving to a .13 part for the first time.

Chiz

That information is completely incorrect. See Rage3D.com forums for more details.

LOL...yeah. I sure do love my daily dose of bull**** from the Rage3D forums.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: thorin

but do not anticipate ATI to start selling the babe just after the launch as it is not easy to develop a 0.13 micron graphics processor.

Hmmmm yet ATi fanboys still flame nVidia for their delay.

but since ATI is ahead of NVIDIA in general

Ya except that nVidia has already made the move to 0.13um.

Thorin

Performance.

 

[Auric]

NVIDIA could have made the FX on the head of a pin for all I care but since it blows it does not make sense to buy one unless you're a pinhead. Who really cares how a card is made so long as it performs fast and reliably with as little noise as possible?

-
P.S. and at a reasonable cost

 

[Lonyo]

It's good for ATi that nVidia are on .13 micron. Since they both go to TMSC, it means that the 0.13 micron process has already been worked on for the GF FX, and all ATi have to do is pick up from where TMSC have got to. There will be a big advantage for ATi that's come from waiting to make the move, someone else has already got the basics working.

 

[blurredvision]

When is CeBit??

 

[GTaudiophile]

As I told Adul, this article contradicts a lot that we've heard up until this point.

Until now, R350 was only going to be a .15mu part, reservering the .13mu chips for RV350.

Chizow: I think this article begs more questions than answers, so be careful before you start having more orgasms over a possible ATi delay (ala nVidia). R400 will still go against NV35 as far as I can tell.

 

[Wolfsraider]

Originally posted by: imtim83
Wolfsraider where did you buy it please?

bestbuy off the shelf lol