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fskimospy

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...and makes those that take them seriously look ignorant and unable to think because their minds are all clouded with this PC shit.

LOL!

Seriously. If I remember correctly you are at least in your late 50's if not considerably older. Acting like this is beneath you.
 
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I'm a creep and a bad person. Are we in third grade? You can do better than that.

Try again.

You are a person who thinks the death of 25 people is something to be joked about, just after the deaths have occurred. You think the deaths of 25 people are an appropriate subject for making the world's most ham-handed political point, just after the deaths have occurred. I think those make you a person who lacks empathy, and I feel sorry for your family for being stuck with a mean-spirited old crank like you.

As to your underlying point, I have always thought the argument that guns and cars are fungible because both cause injury and death is one of the weakest and most nonsensical planks in the 2nd Amendment advocates' platform. Obviously cars serve an essential daily purpose for the overwhelming majority of Americans, and to the extent that deaths and injuries occur in connection with them (which they do), those are almost always the result of accidents. Guns are made specifically to destroy, injure and kill, and there is nothing accidental about mass shootings like the one in Aurora. I don't personally believe that means we should be banning them, but to suggest that they are the same thing as cars, or that logic dictates treating them the same way, is an argument I would have found overly simplistic and misguided when I was in elementary school.
 

a777pilot

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Seriously. If I remember correctly you are at least in your late 50's if not considerably older. Acting like this is beneath you.

I am 67 y/o. That's a very good age to be thinking without one's mind cluttered with all that PC crap.
 

zsdersw

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...and makes those that take them seriously look ignorant and unable to think because their minds are all clouded with this PC shit.

LOL!

I never take your posts/threads seriously because they lack serious thought/insight. They're drivel. It is the act of perpetually making such posts/threads that makes you look bad.
 

a777pilot

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You are a person who thinks the death of 25 people is something to be joked about, just after the deaths have occurred. You think the deaths of 25 people are an appropriate subject for making the world's most ham-handed political point, just after the deaths have occurred. I think those make you a person who lacks empathy, and I feel sorry for your family for being stuck with a mean-spirited old crank like you.

As to your underlying point, I have always thought the argument that guns and cars are fungible because both cause injury and death is one of the weakest and most nonsensical planks in the 2nd Amendment advocates' platform. Obviously cars serve an essential daily purpose for the overwhelming majority of Americans, and to the extent that deaths and injuries occur in connection with them (which they do), those are almost always the result of accidents. Guns are made specifically to destroy, injure and kill, and there is nothing accidental about mass shootings like the one in Aurora. I don't personally believe that means we should be banning them, but to suggest that they are the same thing as cars, or that logic dictates treating them the same way, is an argument I would have found overly simplistic and misguided when I was in elementary school.

Why are you so concerned over the deaths of THESE 25 persons?

Today tens, if not hundreds of thousand will die around the world. What makes these 25 so important to you? Have you no feelings for the others? Or is it just your politics?
 
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I never take your posts/threads seriously because they lack serious thought/insight. They're drivel. It is the act of perpetually making such posts/threads that makes you look bad.

Yeah, that's the thing. I actually don't think the OP is stupid, just misguided (and bigoted, and mean spirited). I don't doubt he could be a reasonable contributor here, but since he's decided to adopt this cranky-old-asshole persona I have little use for him.
 

a777pilot

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I never take your posts/threads seriously because they lack serious thought/insight. They're drivel. It is the act of perpetually making such posts/threads that makes you look bad.

Sad. You cannot think outside of your little PC box.
 

a777pilot

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Yeah, that's the thing. I actually don't think the OP is stupid, just misguided (and bigoted, and mean spirited). I don't doubt he could be a reasonable contributor here, but since he's decided to adopt this cranky-old-asshole persona I have little use for him.

Then ignor me and be done with me.

I love you. Really, I do.
 

a777pilot

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I just checked the other three sites. Nope, no one getting all bent out of shape on those sites.

Intersting, it only here. What does that say?
 
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Why are you so concerned over the deaths of THESE 25 persons?

Today tens, if not hundreds of thousand will die around the world. What makes these 25 so important to you? Have you no feelings for the others? Or is it just your politics?

Honestly I had never heard of the truck crash you cited in your OP until you posted it, and don't know much about it, other than that it's obviously very sad to have so many lives ended at once, particularly because some of them are kids.

As for Aurora, I'd say that event is particularly sad for me because the situation is one I have so often been in, and that makes it easier to identify with the victims and the terror and shock they must have experienced. It's obviously tragic when decent people are mowed down by a psycho this way, but I find it easier to relate to the Aurora victims than, say, people killed by a suicide bomber in Tikrit, so this incident hit home in a way that would not. Also I've always been fascinated by the psychological dynamics that underlie aberrant behavior, and the Aurora case interests me for that reason.

I'm not sure why you keep claiming, when the evidence proves the opposite, that Aurora has some particular political resonance for me. Look at the Aurora threads and see what I have to say about guns. You are just repeating that canard because you assume I am as politically one-dimensional as you - I'm not.
 
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I just checked the other three sites. Nope, no one getting all bent out of shape on those sites.

Intersting, it only here. What does that say?

I can only conclude that the members of the other places you've posted this are like-minded ideologues and/or morons. Link to the other three forums so we can judge for ourselves.
 
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a777pilot

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Honestly I had never heard of the truck crash you cited in your OP until you posted it, and don't know much about it, other than that it's obviously very sad to have so many lives ended at once, particularly because some of them are kids.

As for Aurora, I'd say that event is particularly sad for me because the situation is one I have so often been in, and that makes it easier to identify with the victims and the terror and shock they must have experienced. It's obviously tragic when decent people are mowed down by a psycho this way, but I find it easier to relate to the Aurora victims than, say, people killed by a suicide bomber in Tikrit, so this incident hit home in a way that would not. Also I've always been fascinated by the psychological dynamics that underlie aberrant behavior, and the Aurora case interests me for that reason.

I'm not sure why you keep claiming, when the evidence proves the opposite, that Aurora has some particular political resonance for me. Look at the Aurora threads and see what I have to say about guns. You are just repeating that canard because you assume I am as politically one-dimensional as you - I'm not.

Well stated. Nice post.

Now you are starting to get it.
 
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Deaths of human beings that don't fit your political agenda....boring?

....and I'm the bad person? Really?

You are the only person in this thread using deaths to support a political agenda, and you are also misstating what zsdersw wrote (presumably intentionally).
 
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