More trouble for McCain

her209

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What happened to personal responsibility and not blaming others for your problems?
 

boomerang

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Jun 19, 2000
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McCain is a RINO. He really should retire. If we had age limits in Congress, think of all the dead wood that would be gone. 70 and you're out at the end of your term should be instituted.

Whatever Joe the Plumber is advocating is meaningless. His 15 minutes expired ages ago.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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McCain is in no danger of losing his seat. The big money in Arizona (the only state that matters) loves McCain. His primary rival (Hayworth) is a nutjob and no Dem is going to beat him in the general.
 

Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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McCain is in no danger of losing his seat. The big money in Arizona (the only state that matters) loves McCain. His primary rival (Hayworth) is a nutjob and no Dem is going to beat him in the general.

This may be true, but the nation as a whole will only recover from the established cronies by throwing them all out. McCain is one such person. Peaceful solutions to our two party problem begin with men like him losing their seat.

Throw the incumbents out, or watch your nation fall under the bus.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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This may be true, but the nation as a whole will only recover from the established cronies by throwing them all out. McCain is one such person. Peaceful solutions to our two party problem begin with men like him losing their seat.

Throw the incumbents out, or watch your nation fall under the bus.
The Green Party is expected to be back on the ballot this year in AZ. I'll do my part!
 

woolfe9999

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Not wild about "Joe" but he certainly called this one spot on:

"McCain was trying to use me. I happened to be the face of middle Americans. It was a ploy,” he added.

- wolf
 

alphatarget1

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McCain is a RINO. He really should retire. If we had age limits in Congress, think of all the dead wood that would be gone. 70 and you're out at the end of your term should be instituted.

Whatever Joe the Plumber is advocating is meaningless. His 15 minutes expired ages ago.

You mean Robert C. Byrd? He gets so much pork for his state it's not even funny.
 

boomerang

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Jun 19, 2000
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You mean Robert C. Byrd? He gets so much pork for his state it's not even funny.
Well, I'm not sure from what viewpoint you're coming from, but pork for one state ends up getting paid for by them all. I don't measure success through pork.

I'd guess Byrd is wearing a diaper at this point, so if that's the measure of his usefulness, so be it.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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Not wild about "Joe" but he certainly called this one spot on:

"McCain was trying to use me. I happened to be the face of middle Americans. It was a ploy,” he added.

- wolf

How can anybody use the willing? And Joe cant be very bright if he just figured this out now.
 

rudder

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Nov 9, 2000
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McCain walked the earth during the last ice age... I don't think he will be able to run for president in 2012.

And why is anyone listening to the political advice of joe the plumber anyway?
 

Skitzer

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Retirement age for all politicians should be 66 and it should be mandatory.
This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
 

nageov3t

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Retirement age for all politicians should be 66 and it should be mandatory.
This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
having elder statesmen senators is fine.

the problem is that the lack of term limits leads to ridiculous entrenchment.
 

Thump553

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Jun 2, 2000
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The only things surprising about this is that it took Plumber non-Joe so long to flip-flop. He's addicted to publicity and will seek it in any way possible.

He's part of a very disturbing trend over the past decade or so where we have media celebrities who are famous because they are famous, not because they did anything. Think of the literally millions of US citizens that do far more than non-Joe to advance humanity and/or the USA, like doctors, cops, military personnel on the front lines, etc. who are basically unsung while we spend our time reading/watching non-Joe, Palin, the Karazians (sp?) and the whole legion of Brittanys.
 
Feb 16, 2005
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Not wild about "Joe" but he certainly called this one spot on:

"McCain was trying to use me. I happened to be the face of middle Americans. It was a ploy,” he added.

- wolf

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This idiot knew exactly what he was doing, what it's intended effect would be and how his 'message' would be accepted by the 'working joe'
 

heyheybooboo

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I don't think McCain is in trouble. If he is, the GOP is in trouble.

McCain-2000 lost his way when he started pandering to the Fundie-Base. He had a great deal of support ten years ago until he was slandered by Rove's push polling. It has been all down hill since then, and a great deal of it he brought upon himself.

The Plumber is a douche (and an idiot). And if the AZ GOP goes for JD (who is a bigger idiot and douche), may the deity of your choice help us all ...





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Feb 16, 2005
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I don't think McCain is in trouble. If he is, the GOP is in trouble.

McCain-2000 lost his way when he started pandering to the Fundie-Base. He had a great deal of support ten years ago until he was slandered by Rove's push polling. It has been all down hill since then, and a great deal of it he brought upon himself.

The Plumber is a douche (and an idiot). And if the AZ GOP goes for JD (who is a bigger idiot and douche), may the deity of your choice help us all ...





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As a card carrying, tree hugging, eco-nut, I supported McCain back in 2000, because he seemed upright, honest, didn't dodge around questions, and then turd blossom happened, and any shred of dignity that was left, escaped screaming when caribou barbie took the spotlight from him as his running mate.
I no longer hold respect for him (I do for his service), nor will I ever believe anything that comes from his mouth, actually comes from his gut
 

thraashman

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Apr 10, 2000
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While I never much liked Joe the Plumber, McCain is one of the worst human beings whose ever held a political seat in this nation. He's changed every opinion he's ever had to whatever he thinks is most convenient at the time. I have NO idea what McCain actually stands for because every stance he's had he's changed at least 4 times over the last 10 years. I don't know what the flavor of the week is for him now. And that's just his politics. As a person his history shows he's a low piece of shit too.