More Rumours of G71 & G80

[Skott]

I'm more interested in when the G71 comes out than the G80 at this point but thats just me. The quad cards are going to be extremely expensive no doubt and they have to prove they can boost the performance enough to warrant the high cost.

 

[nts]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

i don't think they even make that. the backward compatibility does not work with certain games that use nvidia only features. it simply doesn't make sense that MS would be paying a royalty and not getting full use.

nV could hand them full use and it wouldn't take care of the missing functionality of the R500. As it appears right now, certain types of shadowing techniques that work on the GeForce3 still won't be possible on the R600 in the same fashion.

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[Ordeith]

I don't understand why the concept of right and wrong should enter into something which is actually beneficial to us. ATI releasing a competitive card like the x1900 puts some pressure on nvidia - if their next generation of cards (g71/g80, whatever) smash ATI's current offerings, am I the only one who sees this as a good thing? Would anyone here (even ATI fanboys, or vice versa) NOT want their competition to produce a much better/faster card?

I like the pressure ATI and Nvidia put on one another, and hope they continue to make leaps and bounds in hardware. I just bought an x1900xt last week, should I cry and bitch and nit pick if the g71 is faster? No, it SHOULD be faster, and I'd be sorely disappointed to see the g71 end up NOT being faster. Why? If the g71 is faster, ATI should drop their prices on x1900s to make them more competitive, making a crossfire solution cheaper and thusly more viable. I truly don't understand why people have to argue about this kind of thing.

Whichever company produces the better cards, in the end, it's just a win-win situation for us consumers, as long as there is enough competition to keep prices in check.

Sorry for the rambling.

 

[Piuc2020]

Yes indeed, I hate it when people complain when a company improves their product, I don't get all this hate to Apple over bringing new models of iPods, I mean, would you still like to be on a 15GB B&W thick iPod?

If companies keep outdoing each other, only the customer benefits as prices go down, performance & features go up and who can complain at low prices and big performance?

 

[Skott]

Competition means the consumer wins. I'm all for that!

 

[BenSkywalker]

What the hell are you talking about?

Splinter Cell. The R580 can not handle the full quality shadowing that the GeForce3(and up) does without problem. Missing functionality.

 

[DeathReborn]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Yes indeed, I hate it when people complain when a company improves their product, I don't get all this hate to Apple over bringing new models of iPods, I mean, would you still like to be on a 15GB B&W thick iPod?

If companies keep outdoing each other, only the customer benefits as prices go down, performance & features go up and who can complain at low prices and big performance?

Apple have a habit off offering les for the same money (ie Mini - Nano) to get more profit, hos is that an improvement? SOmetimes a comapny claims improvements that don't materialise.

 

[akugami]

Originally posted by: DeathReborn

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Yes indeed, I hate it when people complain when a company improves their product, I don't get all this hate to Apple over bringing new models of iPods, I mean, would you still like to be on a 15GB B&W thick iPod?

If companies keep outdoing each other, only the customer benefits as prices go down, performance & features go up and who can complain at low prices and big performance?

Apple have a habit off offering les for the same money (ie Mini - Nano) to get more profit, hos is that an improvement? SOmetimes a comapny claims improvements that don't materialise.

The Nano was arguably an improvement in many respects to the Mini. The one area where it can be considered to offer less than the Mini is in storage. But that was necessitated due to the higher cost of solid state storage vs a mini hard drive. Flash memory based MP3 players consume less power and less prone to mechanical failure (no moving parts) than HD's and also has faster access times, but it costs more.

Not to say the Nano didn't have it's flaws (tight packaging meant some cracked LCD's, and the scratchability).