More responsibility / same pay

[69Mach1]

We're upping production 30% this year, would do even more if we had the room. It seems like its just the nature of the business. The business people set goals just a bit higher than can be reached, like labor cost per pound of product, and assign those goals to the plant manager. The plant manager then doesn't give anyone raises because that would completely shit all over the unattainable labor cost goal.

If we somehow worked twice as hard and cut in half the labor cost per pound, the business people would just move the goal posts to a scenario where we worked three times as hard and we'd still not get raises.

Been there, done that. As long as they're paying for your training, it gives you something to put on a resume, that doesn't cost you anything. Unless you have a better offer, you might as well ride it out and see where you end up. I know a lot of supervisors who try to test a persons loyalty by throwing a lot of responsibility at them to see if they'll stick it out. If this is what's happening, at some point they will pay up. Often they don't want to give a lot of money to someone who is going to leave when things get tough. Or they could just be f-ing cheap slavedrivers. You know them better than we do, you'll have to make the call.

 

[BrownTown]

This is only my 4th year of full-time employment (finished college in 06), but every year it has worked like this for me:
Step A: Get more and more responsibilities as the days/weeks/months go by
Step B: Get compensated at the next yearly review (January)

So I can't say that they never compensate me for the responsibility, but there is always a lag. I'm fine with it, and I'm always happy when new responsibilities are thrown my way, because I know that I will be receiving an increase the next year (and if not, I've got leverage if I feel the need to discuss my salary with my boss).

Best advice I can give is that you shouldn't be afraid to ask for a raise if you deserve it and you have some industry data to back up your opinion. Just make sure you know your boss and you know how to talk to him. In my first year, when I started seeing the "outside-of-job-description" work flowing my way, I wasn't quiet about it when it came time for my review. This approach worked for me...I've received a handful of increases and I'm being paid about 190% of what I was when I was first hired.

Yes, this is the way I know it to work as well. A company isn't going to give you more money until you prove you can handle more responsibility. If you can get the company to pay for training that will distinguish yourself from other than why not do it? You can use it to get your way from them later.

Like where I work we only have 2 people who have a certain qualification and you need a preparer and verifier in order to get something done. So basically the company cannot do anythnig to those two people or else they could never get anything done.

 

[Bignate603]

Get them to pay for the license and then move on.

 

[kitchiku]

Get the license, find another job