more protests and embassies under attack

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http://us.news-republic.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=1&articleid=4322087

A mysterious film maker who released a 14-minute trailer for a film called "Innocence of Muslims or Life of Muhammad," depicting the Muslim prophet as an idiot, a womanizer, and a ruthless killer, has sparked protests across the Arab world, and now into Muslim countries outside the Middle East.
In total, there are about XXX countries where protesters have gathered.
It should be noted though that there are conflicting reports on the ground as to what the real reasons are for the protests.
Protests have broken in so far in about a dozen countries:
INDIA:
The Associated Press is reporting that about 15,000 protestors have gathered in the city of Kashmir to protest the video, in what's being called the largest showing yet of any Muslim country. The protestors are shouting
The State Department and Indian officials are calling for all U.S. citizens to remain out of the city, and if they're visiting the city now, to leave as soon as possible.
Local authorities there have put about five "separatist leaders" on house arrest, a common tactic during civil unrest.
"If America is true in its claim of being against any kind of religious blasphemy, then it should lose no time in taking stern action against these enemies of humanity," said a statement from the Jamat-e-Islami, the biggest Islamic group in Kashmir.
LIBYA:
Libyan officials say that "many" have been arrested following investigations into the assault that killed ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three staffers—one information officer and two former Navy SEALs.
Protests kicked off here a day after people gathered in Egypt.
MALAYSIA:
Only a handful of protestors reported here so far, chanting the phrase "Alahu Akbar" or "God is great" outside embassy walls.
Also, they had printed newsletters calling for the American government to punish the producers of the film.
INDONESIA:
A prominent cleric has urged fellow Muslims to remain calm. About 200 showed up outside the embassy to protest.
“We came here because we want the US to punish whoever was involved with the film,” protester Abdul Jabar Umam told reproters of First Post. “They should know that we are willing to die to defend the honor of our Prophet.”
SUDAN:
Thousands of protestors gathered outside of the German Embassy. Protestors jumped the wall and pulled down the American flag, but police disperesed them with tear gas.
Recent reports out say that the German Embassy is on fire and has been completely evacuated.
EGYPT:
Protestors gathered here again today, but reports on the ground are that the protests have become more about violence than the film.
Hundreds of protestors are in front of the U.S. Embassy. Police are using tear gas, water hoses, and rubber bullets to disperse the crowd.
Several peaceful protestors are farther back, in Tahrir Square, praying.
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AFGHANISTAN:
IRAQ: Hundred of protesters have taken to Iraqi streets: From CNN:
Angry protesters in the Sadr City district of northeast Baghdad carried banners, Iraqi flags and images of radical Shiite and anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr as they railed against what they see as an insult to their faith.
"America is the enemy of the people," the demonstrators shouted Thursday morning. They also yelled out, "Yes, yes to Islam. Yes, yes to Iraq. Yes, yes to Quran" -- the latter referring to the Muslim holy book.
IRAN: 400 Iranians have gathered outside the Swiss Embassy in Tehran. From Russia Today:
They're "protest[ing] against the American-made film denigrating the Prophet Muhammad that has sparked outrage in the world's Muslim community. “Death to the United States and death to Israel and death to England!" was heard over a loudspeaker outside the Swiss diplomatic mission, which represents American diplomatic interests in Iran, following the breakup of diplomatic ties in the aftermath of the Islamic Revolution of 1979.
Riot police have cordoned off the are, causing traffic jams around the capital as the crowd voiced support for demonstrations in Egypt, Lebanon, Libya and Tunisia. Shouts of "Muslims, unite!" and "Mohammad is God's prophet"were heard.
ISRAEL: Protests have spread to Jerusalem. From yNet:
Hundreds of worshippers leaving the al-Aqsa Mosque after Friday prayers hurled stones at police officers and rioted near Jerusalem's Damascus Gate.
The demonstrators, protesting against the anti-Islam film that sparked riots across the Middle East, started marching towards the US Consulate but were blocked by police officers who used shock grenades against them. Several officers were lightly injured by stones. Some protesters were detained.

GAZA:
JORDAN: Jordanian authorities are cracking down. From AnsaMed:
The arrest by security forces of well over a dozen peaceful reform activists since September 7, 2012, signals the government's toughening stand toward demands for political reform in the kingdom", Human Rights Watch said today. The authorities should release all of those detained solely for the peaceful exercise of their rights to expression, association, and assembly, Human Rights Watch added.

The security services arrested activists in various parts of the country for peacefully protesting or calling for reform, in what appeared a concerted move by security and judicial authorities against opposition groups, said HRW in a statment. Those arrested include eight activists from the southern town of Tafila, two from Karak, and seven from Amman. All were charged under terrorism provisions, which place them under the purview of the military-dominated State Security Court, three lawyers for the activists told Human Rights Watch. All remain in detention.

My favorite part is the demand for respect of their beliefs and ideals, but condemnation of mine and many others ideals of free speech. We need to get the fuck out the region and do business from a far, no need to be anywhere near them and if they want to trade maybe we can come up with a good way to do that without requiring an American prssence. If businesses are upset oh well we're not paying with our money or blood to line your pocket books.
 

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Well said. Pull out the troops from there and let them kill each other. They will destroy each other

I don't hope for that. I just believe we need to be setting a good example to the world with our ideals through our successes and change will come.
 

Budmantom

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This is a direct result of the leadership over the last three 3years, we are seeing the results of the Obama doctrine.
 

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The religion is so peaceful. Can't wait for the apologists.
Of course someone will bring up what Christians and Catholics did a few hundred years ago as if it were still relevant. Someone else will tell us that Christians do bad things to and point to a single instance where a few people did something stupid under the name of god. Someone else will say "this is a minority."

When was the last time any other religious group stormed embassies by the thousands and killed, looted and vandalized because someone said something they didn't like? Hint: if it hasn't happened within the current living generations, it doesn't count. We all have dark pasts and that cannot be held against our current actions.
 

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I find it delicious how they think that America is about not upsetting peoples beliefs, like they expect us to bow down because theyll throw a temper tantrum if we dont, yet they dont respect our RIGHT to free speech.

I agree with the above poster, America needs to get out, these retards will off eachother and whomever is left will be:
A. Very smart
B. Very rich

The religion is so peaceful. Can't wait for the apologists.
Of course someone will bring up what Christians and Catholics did a few hundred years ago as if it were still relevant. Someone else will tell us that Christians do bad things to and point to a single instance where a few people did something stupid under the name of god. Someone else will say "this is a minority."

When was the last time any other religious group stormed embassies by the thousands and killed, looted and vandalized because someone said something they didn't like? Hint: if it hasn't happened within the current living generations, it doesn't count. We all have dark pasts and that cannot be held against our current actions.

I agree with you more than you agree with yourself.

But that kind of thinking is limited to intelligent people (mainly conservatives), because it completely negates the need for racism and special treatment for minorities. Slavery happened a LONG time ago, yet its brought up as if it were a current "plight of their people".
 
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The religion is so peaceful. Can't wait for the apologists.
Of course someone will bring up what Christians and Catholics did a few hundred years ago as if it were still relevant. Someone else will tell us that Christians do bad things to and point to a single instance where a few people did something stupid under the name of god. Someone else will say "this is a minority."

When was the last time any other religious group stormed embassies by the thousands and killed, looted and vandalized because someone said something they didn't like? Hint: if it hasn't happened within the current living generations, it doesn't count. We all have dark pasts and that cannot be held against our current actions.


Well said. They always attack Christians yet wont dare anything about Islam, complete hypocrites. The funny thing is these guys tolerate the radical Islamists yet the radical Islamists wouldn't tolerate them at all
 

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I really don't like attacking anyone for their religious beliefs. I can shit on all religions, but why? Attacks aren't necessary, but not all "attacks" are attacks. Some are facts or hard numbers people just don't want to hear because it can shake the foundation of their world view.
 

Budmantom

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The left will never attack Islam but they routinely target Christians. obama panders to Muslims which is why this happened

No peace through strength here it's more like peace through appeasement and apologies, and this is what we get.
 

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Have no fear. The President has the situation well in hand. He has scheduled two fund raisers right after his afternoon golf game.

All is well.
 

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Poor poor conservatives flopping around in their altered reality trying to make sense of the world as if brains wired to respond with fear rather than reason could ever do that.

Christian fundamentalism is an altered reality maintained by brainwashing children right here in America that lowers the national IQ as it were, enormously. Christian fundamentalism is the enemy of the American way. This is a disease that infects our own people, a disgusting anathema to intelligent reasoning. This is a disease that festers because our system of government allows religious freedom, the freedom to be irrational, irresponsible, and destructive of human potential.

Every whack job so affected fears himself in the religious other living in another country. The Muslim is the monster that is really himself.

So, while liberals work to destroy this disease at home and save the people affected, they also try to save them from getting into an insane war with their counterparts in other nations, the other religious fanatics out there in the world. It is the job of liberals to bring light to our backward brothers at home, and to keep them from killing themselves by causing a war with other nut jobs. By trying to tamp down fanaticism over there and over here, the liberal is hated by both. But that's what Jesus did to save the world. He had to sacrifice Himself, and both religions honor Him.

It is the way of the religious fanatic to work for Satin while he pretends to worship God, the stupidly sick who think they have the only religion, when they are all really the same. There is one truth and it covers all of humanity.
 

Matt1970

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Poor poor conservatives flopping around in their altered reality trying to make sense of the world as if brains wired to respond with fear rather than reason could ever do that.

Christian fundamentalism is an altered reality maintained by brainwashing children right here in America that lowers the national IQ as it were, enormously. Christian fundamentalism is the enemy of the American way. This is a disease that infects our own people, a disgusting anathema to intelligent reasoning. This is a disease that festers because our system of government allows religious freedom, the freedom to be irrational, irresponsible, and destructive of human potential.

Every whack job so affected fears himself in the religious other living in another country. The Muslim is the monster that is really himself.

So, while liberals work to destroy this disease at home and save the people affected, they also try to save them from getting into an insane war with their counterparts in other nations, the other religious fanatics out there in the world. It is the job of liberals to bring light to our backward brothers at home, and to keep them from killing themselves by causing a war with other nut jobs. By trying to tamp down fanaticism over there and over here, the liberal is hated by both. But that's what Jesus did to save the world. He had to sacrifice Himself, and both religions honor Him.

It is the way of the religious fanatic to work for Satin while he pretends to worship God, the stupidly sick who think they have the only religion, when they are all really the same. There is one truth and it covers all of humanity.

I know nobody else does, but do you take yourself seriously? Christian fundamentalism is an altered reality that lowers IQ's and is the enemy of the American way? Instead of claiming Christians are in an altered reality, maybe you should come back to reality.
 

ky54

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Obama said in 2008 exactly who his enemies are and they are not the current murdering mob in the mid-east.
 

Moonbeam

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I know nobody else does, but do you take yourself seriously? Christian fundamentalism is an altered reality that lowers IQ's and is the enemy of the American way? Instead of claiming Christians are in an altered reality, maybe you should come back to reality.

I said nothing about real Christians. I wish I had what it takes to be one. Compared to a real Christian I consider myself to be a piece of shit. What I said about Christian fundamentalists like you, however, is absolutely true.
 

Atreus21

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I know nobody else does, but do you take yourself seriously? Christian fundamentalism is an altered reality that lowers IQ's and is the enemy of the American way? Instead of claiming Christians are in an altered reality, maybe you should come back to reality.

It's getting so that all I ever read is Moonbeam's sig.
 

GoPackGo

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Does anyone else get the feeling that this is a precursor to something really bad?