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More Prophecy's come true!
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sMashPiranha
Senior member
Umm, you said 'supposed'.
I found the quote rather interesting a humourous in a way. Especially since everybody has been talking about "prophecy's" and how the once great russian astronomer's predictions are now coming true. I got this quote from IRC like I said. Just posting to see reaction because a lot of people thought it was kinda funny themselves. In a way, I agree with the quote. I don't like Bush at all, but since he's our leader, I have to respect him. Let's all hope Bush comes through for the nation.
Well, don't flame me ok. I'm not into this prophecy mumble jumble. I just found it funny to see that everybody was so hyped about reading this mans quotes.
Here's one for you two: "Come after the day of disaster, two A-holes named serialb and coder1 will flame time for not knowing the truth about a past prophecy"
There's one for you two a-holes.
Here's one for you two: "Come after the day of disaster, two A-holes named serialb and coder1 will flame time for not knowing the truth about a past prophecy"
There's one for you two a-holes.
Claim: A 1554 Nostradamus prediction said World War III would begin with the fall of "two brothers," a reference to the destroyed World Trade Center towers.
Status: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]
"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb, The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Nostradamus 1654
Origins: The turmoil of recent events has us all scrambling, some to look for solace and meaning, others for the terrorists responsible, and yet others for signs that what happened could have been prevented or at least foreseen. The 11 September 2001 attack on America destroyed not only the two World Trade Center towers in New York City, a chunk of the Pentagon in Washington, and caused untold loss of life, it also shook America's sense of invulnerability. No longer do Americans presume safety in an unsafe world.
For some, that realization is an eye-opener, unsettling but necessary, in that a child's blissful unawareness has been replaced (at great cost) with an adult's more clear-eyed view of the world and its sometimes horrifying ways. For others, it spells the beginning of the end, in that they equated an illusion of safety with its reality and thus now feel their world is ending. It is the fears of that second group that are given voice in the Nostradamus prediction circulated on the Internet even before the dust had settled in New York.
The French physician and astrologer Nostradamus (1503-1566) penned numerous quatrains populated by obscure imagery that the credulous have ever after attempted to fit to the events of their times. These predictions can often ring somewhat true in that the images employed are so general they can be found in almost every event of import, but by the same token, the prophesies are never a dead-on fit because the wordings are far too general. Not that this stops anyone from believing in them; our society's need for mysticism runs far too deep to ever allow for that.
Those looking for the certainty of a Nostradamus prophesy come true have been known to sledge hammer the results to force a fit by inventing fanciful translations from the original French, bend over backwards to assert one named term is really another, and (as in this case) outright fabricate part or all of the prediction.
Nostradamus did not write the quatrain now being attributed to him. (One wonders how a guy who died in 1566 could have written an item identified as being penned in 1654 anyway.) It originated with a student at Brock University in Canada in the 1990s, appearing on a web page essay on Nostradamus. That particular quatrain was offered by the page's author, Neil Marshall, as a fabricated example to illustrate how easily an important-sounding prophecy can be crafted through the use of abstract imagery. He pointed out how the terms he used were so deliberately vague they could be interpreted to fit any number of cataclysmic events.
It appears someone mistook Marshall's illustrative example for an actual Nostradamus prophecy and, not content to let well enough alone, added "The third big war will begin when the big city is burning." A fabrication was thus further fabricated.
But that wasn't the end of it. More fakery was piled on in later versions that now included all of the text quoted in the Example section above but now concluded with:
"on the 11th day of the 9 month that...two metal birds would crash into two tall statues...in the new city... and the world will end soon after"
Similarly, another enhanced version incorporates the Example text into a more detailed prophecy:
And Nostradamus predicted this (who knows how long ago):
"In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city..."
"In the city of york there will be a great collapse,
2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos
while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Needless to say, these versions are as fake as the first was.
Barbara "la cosa nostradamus" Mikkelson
Last updated: 11 September 2001
Status: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]
"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb, The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Nostradamus 1654
Origins: The turmoil of recent events has us all scrambling, some to look for solace and meaning, others for the terrorists responsible, and yet others for signs that what happened could have been prevented or at least foreseen. The 11 September 2001 attack on America destroyed not only the two World Trade Center towers in New York City, a chunk of the Pentagon in Washington, and caused untold loss of life, it also shook America's sense of invulnerability. No longer do Americans presume safety in an unsafe world.
For some, that realization is an eye-opener, unsettling but necessary, in that a child's blissful unawareness has been replaced (at great cost) with an adult's more clear-eyed view of the world and its sometimes horrifying ways. For others, it spells the beginning of the end, in that they equated an illusion of safety with its reality and thus now feel their world is ending. It is the fears of that second group that are given voice in the Nostradamus prediction circulated on the Internet even before the dust had settled in New York.
The French physician and astrologer Nostradamus (1503-1566) penned numerous quatrains populated by obscure imagery that the credulous have ever after attempted to fit to the events of their times. These predictions can often ring somewhat true in that the images employed are so general they can be found in almost every event of import, but by the same token, the prophesies are never a dead-on fit because the wordings are far too general. Not that this stops anyone from believing in them; our society's need for mysticism runs far too deep to ever allow for that.
Those looking for the certainty of a Nostradamus prophesy come true have been known to sledge hammer the results to force a fit by inventing fanciful translations from the original French, bend over backwards to assert one named term is really another, and (as in this case) outright fabricate part or all of the prediction.
Nostradamus did not write the quatrain now being attributed to him. (One wonders how a guy who died in 1566 could have written an item identified as being penned in 1654 anyway.) It originated with a student at Brock University in Canada in the 1990s, appearing on a web page essay on Nostradamus. That particular quatrain was offered by the page's author, Neil Marshall, as a fabricated example to illustrate how easily an important-sounding prophecy can be crafted through the use of abstract imagery. He pointed out how the terms he used were so deliberately vague they could be interpreted to fit any number of cataclysmic events.
It appears someone mistook Marshall's illustrative example for an actual Nostradamus prophecy and, not content to let well enough alone, added "The third big war will begin when the big city is burning." A fabrication was thus further fabricated.
But that wasn't the end of it. More fakery was piled on in later versions that now included all of the text quoted in the Example section above but now concluded with:
"on the 11th day of the 9 month that...two metal birds would crash into two tall statues...in the new city... and the world will end soon after"
Similarly, another enhanced version incorporates the Example text into a more detailed prophecy:
And Nostradamus predicted this (who knows how long ago):
"In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city..."
"In the city of york there will be a great collapse,
2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos
while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Needless to say, these versions are as fake as the first was.
Barbara "la cosa nostradamus" Mikkelson
Last updated: 11 September 2001
Joke: In 1555 Nostradamus predicted that December 2000 would see "the village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the leader in the home of greatest power."
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2000]
In 1555, Nostradamus wrote:
Come the millennium, month 12
In the home of greatest power,
The village idiot will come forth
To be acclaimed the leader.
Origins: Yuk yuk. Nostradamus wrote a lot of stuff so general (and obscure) that with the help of a little imagination (and some liberal interpretations from the original French), people have claimed he has "predicted" nearly every event of significance since the mid-16th century. But nothing in his writings comes close to the quatrain quoted above, even when translated by a first-year French student. This is just another bit of election year humor.
Last updated: 18 December 2000
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2000]
In 1555, Nostradamus wrote:
Come the millennium, month 12
In the home of greatest power,
The village idiot will come forth
To be acclaimed the leader.
Origins: Yuk yuk. Nostradamus wrote a lot of stuff so general (and obscure) that with the help of a little imagination (and some liberal interpretations from the original French), people have claimed he has "predicted" nearly every event of significance since the mid-16th century. But nothing in his writings comes close to the quatrain quoted above, even when translated by a first-year French student. This is just another bit of election year humor.
Last updated: 18 December 2000
azazyel
Diamond Member
Some words from Nostradamus:
Century 1, Quatrain 87
Ennosigee feu du centre de terre,
Fera trembler autour de cite neuue
Deux gras rochers long teps feront la guerre,
Puis Arethuse rougira nouueau fleuue.
Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth.
Will cause the towers around the New City to shake,
Two great rocks for a long time will make war,
And then Arethusa will color a new river red.
Century 6, Quatrain 97
Cinq & quarante degres ciel bruslera
Feu approcher de la grand cite neuue [neufue]
Instant grand flamme esparse sautera
Quand on voudra des Normans faire preuue.
At forty-five degrees, the sky will burn,
Fire approaches the great new city,
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have verification from the Normans. link
Right. Go out and buy your flags.
I've bought mine, have you?
About these prophecy's, it doesn't matter really. What I'm saying is that a lot of you are buying into these prophecy's just because they fit in a sort of way.
SerialB, go cry back to your mom and ask her to tell you what humor is. I didn't make it up ASS, so go to irc and yell at the guy that did.
I've bought mine, have you?
About these prophecy's, it doesn't matter really. What I'm saying is that a lot of you are buying into these prophecy's just because they fit in a sort of way.
SerialB, go cry back to your mom and ask her to tell you what humor is. I didn't make it up ASS, so go to irc and yell at the guy that did.
Karaethon1
Senior member
Is there even a direct translation from french to english of "idiot"?
*Edit - fixed spelling
*Edit - fixed spelling
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