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European countries have a very large Muslim population, and they know how to multiply. Saying anything that might offend them will only result in anarchy in the streets, you and your family members will be threatened with violence.
 
Originally posted by: hopeless74
aborigines should have said the same thing to the british when they came over. abide by our rules or gtfo
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I'm sorry, the aborigine women wouldn't like being treated like sex slaves.
 
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
MrPickins, no one is saying that Muslims shouldn't be allowed to practice their religion. The big issue is that in the UK, Muslim communities are trying to push the government into letting them ignore the country's laws and letting them follow their own and police themselves.
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Hi, I'm English, now explain to me just how stupid you have to be to believe that crock of shit?

What IS being discussed and decided is if Muslims should be allowed to do what the Jews have been allowed to do for decades, namely to settle civil matters in an arbitrary court.
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Only problem with that reasoning is that the Jewish people can choose which court they can submit to: Jewish or British.

Muslims, and in particular, Muslim women, can't.

What that means is simply the past few cases of Muslim court is that men who were caught abusing their wives only got anger management courses, while in an equivalent British court, the punishment would have been a restraining order of some sort.


And for some reason, the feminists are totally ok with Islam.

Liberalism, insanity's last stand.


And even so, I'd get rid of Jewish courts as well. Have one secular court in Britain based on legalistic principles of that particular country. When you have three different courts, each one passing different judgments based on different principals, it can be problematic, and it can lead to double standards and plain abuse.

And what's really sad is that alot of Muslim women come to Britain hoping for more freedom, and they get swamped up in this bull shit.


Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Too bad the Brits have no balls to do the same.
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And here we see another example of the not so rare "Americanus Ignoramus".

We threw out every request that would have made the arbitrary courts supercede Englands Justice system but i guess it's too damn hard to understand these things when all you read is headlines?
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Well, I'm glad you people did that; I should hope so anyway. You're asking yourself to eventually be subjected to Muslim authority completely. The Muslims got this far, how far will they go until they stop?

And all you do is keep giving them more and more authority, and then call people who disagree with you "ignoramus." Or even better, "bigots" and "racists."

People in Britain never cease to amaze me with their cavalier attitude.
 
It's the concept of hostile immigration, where people from an incompatible culture immigrate into a host country and multiply. Once they have enough of a population base, they push for replacing the host country's laws and customs with their own. This is encouraged when politicians in the host country pander to the immigrant constituency to obtain their votes.

The problem is that Islamic culture considers itself to be Islamic above and beyond all, and has no desire to assimilate with the traditions and customs of the host country. Islam, when it reaches a certain critical mass, just wants to take over.
 
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Too bad the Brits have no balls to do the same.
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..they may be at the point of no return. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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I could say the same for fiscal- and neo- conservatism.
 
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: zoiks

Why don't you. I'll put $5 for the community fund to send you off.
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QFT

I'd say the biggest core value in American society is tolerance. If you have a problem with that, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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But, and I'm completely serious here, doesn't that also include tolerance of those who are intolerant? It seems like more and more people, especially young people on the internet, want tolerance of every little belief system and idea unless it conflicts with their idea of how the world should be "open to ideas". In that case insults like "Racist!" and "KKK" start flying.

You can't have it both ways. Either we allow people to have their beliefs and their freedoms of speech or we don't.

I think you've completely missed out on what true tolerance is.
 
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: zoiks

Why don't you. I'll put $5 for the community fund to send you off.
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QFT

I'd say the biggest core value in American society is tolerance. If you have a problem with that, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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But, and I'm completely serious here, doesn't that also include tolerance of those who are intolerant? It seems like more and more people, especially young people on the internet, want tolerance of every little belief system and idea unless it conflicts with their idea of how the world should be "open to ideas". In that case insults like "Racist!" and "KKK" start flying.

You can't have it both ways. Either we allow people to have their beliefs and their freedoms of speech or we don't.

I think you've completely missed out on what true tolerance is.
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Intolerant ideas are a direct threat to tolerant ideas so they are an exception and cannot be tolerated.
 
Originally posted by: Farang

Intolerant ideas are a direct threat to tolerant ideas so they are an exception and cannot be tolerated.
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How about people who want to enforce these ideas on other people?
 
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Too bad the Brits have no balls to do the same.
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..they may be at the point of no return. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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I could say the same for fiscal- and neo- conservatism.
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You could say the same. The problem is no one would really care.
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And that is how Bush was elected twice.
 
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Too bad the Brits have no balls to do the same.
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..they may be at the point of no return. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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I could say the same for fiscal- and neo- conservatism.
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You could say the same. The problem is no one would really care.
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And that is how Bush was elected twice.
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Notice how he wears it like a badge of honor.
 
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