More people take anti-depressants than I thought

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Better living through chemicals. God forbid people actually deal with their problems.

You obviously know nothing about depression, for if you did you'd not say that, but such an attitude is common on the depression threads.

I know more about it than you might think. I'm not saying there aren't people who have a genuine physical problem that these drugs can fix, but they are overprescribed like you would not believe. Often times physicians won't even discuss alternatives like counseling, but will just write a script based on one office visit.

Probably most drugs are overprescribed

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
It's a cop-out. What we really need is less sexual repression.

Read much Freud/Reich

 

[So]

Yeah, we've become a drug obsessed culture.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
I'm sure it's very common in this current economy. Heck, reportedly one of Bush's campaign aids said something to the effect (over a speakerphone, overheard by a reporter) that people who are unhappy with the employment market (the unemployed and underemployed) should take Prozac. That's the Bush solution to our nation's job market ills--the unhappily unemployed and underemployed should take Prozac. Why'd we elect this bozo again? Americans might not have good middle class jobs, but hot damn we won't have gay marraige either!

so what you are saying is, you don't take anti-depressants, if you did, you would have a nice calm/short response and not a twisted liberal/anit-Bush response

Well...just how did the job market fare under this guy? Horribly. That's one factor in why many people might feel a need for anti-depressants. According to former Reagan Administration official (assistant Secretary of the Treasury I believe) Paul Craig Roberts (not a socialist by any means), the U.S. job market is only generating third world type services jobs in non-import-export sensitive areas of the economy:

U.S. Labor Force: One Foot in the Third World

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/050603_labor.htm

One of the concerns I have about anti-depressants is that they might cloud reality--they might dampen legitimate emotions. I mean, it's conceivable that the majority of the populace could end up being impoverished but still be happy because they're taking happy pills (prevents revolution and people's putting nobles' and politicians' heads on pikes).

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
I'm sure it's very common in this current economy. Heck, reportedly one of Bush's campaign aids said something to the effect (over a speakerphone, overheard by a reporter) that people who are unhappy with the employment market (the unemployed and underemployed) should take Prozac. That's the Bush solution to our nation's job market ills--the unhappily unemployed and underemployed should take Prozac. Why'd we elect this bozo again? Americans might not have good middle class jobs, but hot damn we won't have gay marraige either!

stfu or take it to P&N.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: So
Yeah, we've become a drug obsessed culture.

Yep, at one point I had my pre-marriage counselor suggest that I needed to take anti-depressants when I mentioned to him about how I was getting depressed over how my family was acting over my interracial marriage. I didn't need a freaking mood alterning drug. I just needed my family accept what I was doing. They eventually did and no drugs were involved.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
I'm sure it's very common in this current economy. Heck, reportedly one of Bush's campaign aids said something to the effect (over a speakerphone, overheard by a reporter) that people who are unhappy with the employment market (the unemployed and underemployed) should take Prozac. That's the Bush solution to our nation's job market ills--the unhappily unemployed and underemployed should take Prozac. Why'd we elect this bozo again? Americans might not have good middle class jobs, but hot damn we won't have gay marraige either!

so what you are saying is, you don't take anti-depressants, if you did, you would have a nice calm/short response and not a twisted liberal/anit-Bush response

Well...just how did the job market fare under this guy? Horribly. That's one factor in why many people might feel a need for anti-depressants. According to former Reagan Administration official (assistant Secretary of the Treasury I believe) Paul Craig Roberts (not a socialist by any means), the U.S. job market is only generating third world type services jobs in non-import-export sensitive areas of the economy:

U.S. Labor Force: One Foot in the Third World

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/050603_labor.htm

One of the concerns I have about anti-depressants is that they might cloud reality--they might dampen legitimate emotions. I mean, it's conceivable that the majority of the populace could end up being impoverished but still be happy because they're taking happy pills (prevents revolution and people's putting nobles' and politicians' heads on pikes).

again STFU or take it to P&N!

And also get a clue before spouting off this nonsense.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: archcommus
Really...it's much more common than I knew.

they're being overly prescribed

 

[IGBT]

..I know many on prozac or similar SSRI..I drink coffee..we're all a bunch of druggies.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Better living through chemicals. God forbid people actually deal with their problems.

That's my concern. Do the happy pills really help people deal with their problems, many of which could be caused by external social forces, or do they merely mask the problems, give people less reason to feel concerned about the problems, and/or make people complacent?

I'd like to see more attention paid to why so many people feel depressed and what can be done about the causes of the depression as opposed to how we can cover it up.

 

[unsped]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Better living through chemicals. God forbid people actually deal with their problems.

clearly a person who has never had an anxiety disorder. chemicals are part of 'dealing' with it. you dont take them forever, but they get you to a point where therepy is managable. they are also very good for ocd, chronic fatigue etc..

antidepressent's are used for much more than treating depression. in my case generalized anxiety disorder with panic.

as someone with at times crippling anxiety, please stfu its certainly no fun.

ive been to panic support groups, and i can say that none of the people there are trying to escape through chemicals. they are just trying to get there life back, and thankfully medications like this exist to help people get control of there lives.

 

[Electric Amish]

My wife took them for a bit of time, but it was to try to minimize her neurological pain, not for depression.

It's really sad that so many people use them as a cop out. I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate cases of depression out there, but I don't think it's as widespread as the number of users would make be believe.

 

[archcommus]

You can't necessarily say that people use anti-depressants to mask their problems. Many times people deal with what they need to as best they can, they just need help feeling brighter about it instead of moping about it. That doesn't mean they suddenly think the problem doesn't exist. It just means they don't feel so upset about it.

 

[shilala]

I've had seasonal depression all my life. When the days get short, It gets harder and harder to drag my ass out of bed. My moods gradually get more forlorn and miserable. It boils down to taking something, or somebody killing me for being such a miserable dick.
It's gotten ,uch better in the last few years, and I'm hoping that this year it's even better. If it's not, I'm gonna get me the swankest, hippest dope they're pushing.
Sometimes drugs are good, mm kay?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: unsped

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Better living through chemicals. God forbid people actually deal with their problems.

clearly a person who has never had an anxiety disorder. chemicals are part of 'dealing' with it. you dont take them forever, but they get you to a point where therepy is managable. they are also very good for ocd, chronic fatigue etc..

antidepressent's are used for much more than treating depression. in my case generalized anxiety disorder with panic.

as someone with at times crippling anxiety, please stfu its certainly no fun.

i agree. antidepressant medication is truly needed by certain individuals because they have an imbalance of brain chemicals that causes an illness. anyone who thinks everyone can just "deal with their problems" doesn't have a clue.

but with that said, i still feel that antidepressants are over prescribed. they are given out too easily.

 

[Heisenberg]

Originally posted by: unsped

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Better living through chemicals. God forbid people actually deal with their problems.

clearly a person who has never had an anxiety disorder. chemicals are part of 'dealing' with it. you dont take them forever, but they get you to a point where therepy is managable. they are also very good for ocd, chronic fatigue etc..

antidepressent's are used for much more than treating depression. in my case generalized anxiety disorder with panic.

as someone with at times crippling anxiety, please stfu its certainly no fun.

ive been to panic support groups, and i can say that none of the people there are trying to escape through chemicals. they are just trying to get there life back, and thankfully medications like this exist to help people get control of there lives.

Again (please read my later post), I'm not saying that there aren't people who have a geniune physical problem these medications can fix. But they are being overprescribed and used as a cure-all quick-fix in many cases where they are not justified.

 

Originally posted by: archcommus
Really...it's much more common than I knew.

Yeah! And it's quite surprising.

 

[Mik3y]

I've been taking them for 6 months now. it really does help me out.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Me, never, immediate family, everyone else.

 

[AZGamer]

I do.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
It's a cop-out. What we really need is less sexual repression.

That's funny cause the one person that I definitely know is on an anti-depressant is because of sex (children). :laugh:

The psychological issues that children bring about are irrelevant to the concept of sexual repression.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
It's a cop-out. What we really need is less sexual repression.

Read much Freud/Reich

No, I do not. Why?

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: unsped

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Better living through chemicals. God forbid people actually deal with their problems.

clearly a person who has never had an anxiety disorder. chemicals are part of 'dealing' with it. you dont take them forever, but they get you to a point where therepy is managable. they are also very good for ocd, chronic fatigue etc..

antidepressent's are used for much more than treating depression. in my case generalized anxiety disorder with panic.

as someone with at times crippling anxiety, please stfu its certainly no fun.

ive been to panic support groups, and i can say that none of the people there are trying to escape through chemicals. they are just trying to get there life back, and thankfully medications like this exist to help people get control of there lives.

Again (please read my later post), I'm not saying that there aren't people who have a geniune physical problem these medications can fix. But they are being overprescribed and used as a cure-all quick-fix in many cases where they are not justified.

Seriously, people need to think before they post.
Too many people have said HB is wrong for saying we need to use less chamicals, then you get peopl ein this thread like the one with the interracial marriage who say "I was told to get meds, but didn't need them".
HB is right, we need to rely less on chemicals, but he never said we shouldn't use them at all, just that maybe we should think of other ways to solve some peoples problems, like therapy or sorting out the root of the problem (like the family for the marriage guy)

 

[13Gigatons]

I'm always amazed by how many people crap on anti-depressants and yet the success record is 85% in treating the disease. People just can't fathom that they will ever get sick or be less then the strength they are right now.

 

[Nomada]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: unsped

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Better living through chemicals. God forbid people actually deal with their problems.

clearly a person who has never had an anxiety disorder. chemicals are part of 'dealing' with it. you dont take them forever, but they get you to a point where therepy is managable. they are also very good for ocd, chronic fatigue etc..

antidepressent's are used for much more than treating depression. in my case generalized anxiety disorder with panic.

as someone with at times crippling anxiety, please stfu its certainly no fun.

ive been to panic support groups, and i can say that none of the people there are trying to escape through chemicals. they are just trying to get there life back, and thankfully medications like this exist to help people get control of there lives.

Again (please read my later post), I'm not saying that there aren't people who have a geniune physical problem these medications can fix. But they are being overprescribed and used as a cure-all quick-fix in many cases where they are not justified.

Seriously, people need to think before they post.
Too many people have said HB is wrong for saying we need to use less chamicals, then you get peopl ein this thread like the one with the interracial marriage who say "I was told to get meds, but didn't need them".
HB is right, we need to rely less on chemicals, but he never said we shouldn't use them at all, just that maybe we should think of other ways to solve some peoples problems, like therapy or sorting out the root of the problem (like the family for the marriage guy)

or Doctor Phil! I don't know the percentages but I think at least 20% of America would be on anti-depressants. The majority of them need to simply break away from their mundanity every once in awhile. Us being creatures of habit, sometime forget that unexpected stimulation can really get the blood flowing.

To them I say, put it in park, put the cheeseburger down, unplug the phone and go walk to the nearest river and jump in. At least do something out of the ordinary anyways.