More on florida teacher that had sex with two of his drama students

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
I stated that being their teacher was where he went wrong. However the only jealous people cry about the 1/2 age thing. In this case thought it's not applicable.

If you are dating, you really don't have to explain crap to the other partners. All they need to know is that you are just dating.

Too many think dating = engaged/marriage.

The people who are crying about the 1/2 age thing aren't jealous. They have enough foresight to leave the 15 year old, high school students out of their pool of potential mates. It shows in the fact that once people get older, the less difference age makes. If high school students want to be promiscuous with other high school students, then let them be. The idea that a 26 year old person is sleeping around with high school students doesn't say volumes about the people who are upset. It speaks volumes about the 26 year old.

By the way, no one is saying that 15/16 year olds aren't experimenting. You would have to be quite blind to believe that. Most are only against people who are significantly older, and significantly more mature from engaging in sexual intercourse with people who are still maturing. It's not even just emotional maturity that's developing here. The only place I draw the line is when an 18 year old high school student is dating a >18 year old high school student. Those prosecutions are based on a technicality and really aren't there to protect anyone. A 26 year old should know better. But considering how many people believe in the pull out method and Iraq being our 51st state, I guess I can't really expect the mental maturity of 20 somethings to be that high these days either.

 

[alkemyst]

Well unfortunately that is your own opinion, as the same time there are tons of guys even on this forum that talk about hot TV/Movie celebrities they can't wait until 18 as if that is some magical number of enlightenment.

In counterpoint to your >18 should not date <18...in my state the law is 24-16 is fair game and in many there are 2 and 3 year difference adjustments so that a 19 year old doesn't get arrested for dating a 17 yo.

IMHO the biggest victims are the girls that end up at an away college for the first time in their lives and have no dating experience. It's too easy to tell them what is normal on a date and they have no frame of reference.

 

[Tsaico]

This whole argument is so pointless to me. If a 15 or 16 year old were to commit a murder or any other crime, the state would have a hearing to evaluate if the minor had the capacity of understanding what they were doing to determine if he or she will be charged as an adult. But when it comes to this situation they always just give the minor the benefit of the doubt. I feel they should have these kinds of hearings also to determine if the minor has the ability to make these kinds of descisions. Of course it wouldn't matter in more extreme cases like 12 or 13, and the pedophile should go to jail.

 

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Well unfortunately that is your own opinion, as the same time there are tons of guys even on this forum that talk about hot TV/Movie celebrities they can't wait until 18 as if that is some magical number of enlightenment.

In counterpoint to your >18 should not date <18...in my state the law is 24-16 is fair game and in many there are 2 and 3 year difference adjustments so that a 19 year old doesn't get arrested for dating a 17 yo.

IMHO the biggest victims are the girls that end up at an away college for the first time in their lives and have no dating experience. It's too easy to tell them what is normal on a date and they have no frame of reference.

Emotional and mental maturity have very little to do with physical maturity. Just because people may be physically attracted to a girl who's developed does not mean the emotional maturity of that person is developed. A 26 year old has 11 years of additional maturing over a 15 year old and the fact that they have those experiences means that they are able to use it as an coercive factor in manipulating alot of younger people.

Also, out of curiosity, at what point would you desire a cutoff? How about a 26 year old and a freshman of 14? How about a junior high student? There's obviously some number you would choose. Is it pre-pubescent? Does that mean as soon as one enters puberty, the rule should change? How do you measure mental and emotional maturity on an objective level? At what point is the relationship not a relationship and just manipulation?