More on florida teacher that had sex with two of his drama students

[alkemyst]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/l.../09/24/0924FOSTER.html

Apparently it was fine with both girls until one found out she wasn't the only one.

My opinion is there were no victims. I would say he should fall under the laws of the school he was at on fraternization...but I don't think rape happened at all.

People need to open their eyes more that at 15/16 people are doing more in the bedroom than their parents did many times.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Consenting doesn't mean that a 15/16 year old is mentally mature enough to make a proper decision.

A teacher who knows the law and decides to break them. I have no sympathy for him.

 

[FoBoT]

the law must be upheld, if you don't like the law, vote for people that will change it

 

[apac]

It's considered rape because society has deemed that people under 18 aren't mature enough to make decisions like consent. I don't necessarily agree, but seriously is it really that hard to keep your pants zipped up around anyone under 18? There are so many more fish that won't put you in a FPMITA prison.

 

[Xavier434]

I wonder how much longer these stories are going to be prime time in the media spotlight. This stuff between young teachers and their teenage students is so common and has been happening for many years. I'm not saying that the law shouldn't act upon it. I just think it's funny how much more publicity it has gotten lately.

 

[imported_LoKe]

I'd hate to see what 12 year olds are doing in 10 years if we were to change our laws to make this acceptable.

 

[jandrews]

I was sad to see no pictures of the 16 year old girls.

 

[Capt Caveman]

The fact that one of the girls thought they'd be together forever and she was in love with the guy, pretty much sums up her maturity level.

 

[AMDZen]

Personally I agree, teachers that do this are retarded mind you, but still. People are naive to think that 18 is the be all end all for people. WHich leads me to the drinking age, since if the drinking age was 18 here or around there like it is in the entire rest of the world, I wouldn't of been a practical alcoholic in HS. Kids drink so much from 16-20 mostly because its illegal

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Personally I agree, teachers that do this are retarded mind you, but still. People are naive to think that 18 is the be all end all for people. WHich leads me to the drinking age, since if the drinking age was 18 here or around there like it is in the entire rest of the world, I wouldn't of been a practical alcoholic in HS. Kids drink so much from 16-20 mostly because its illegal

Regardless of the age limit, people will do it. You change it to 18, kids from 16-XX will be drinking. You change it to 16, kids from 14-XX will be drinking. You can't win with these things. Personally, I'm not sure why alcohol is even legal at all.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
The fact that one of the girls thought they'd be together forever and she was in love with the guy, pretty much sums up her maturity level.

I don't condone what the guy did, but she could've just as easily fallen into this situation with a guy who was 18. So, she just can't chose to sleep with someone who's 26?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Personally I agree, teachers that do this are retarded mind you, but still. People are naive to think that 18 is the be all end all for people. WHich leads me to the drinking age, since if the drinking age was 18 here or around there like it is in the entire rest of the world, I wouldn't of been a practical alcoholic in HS. Kids drink so much from 16-20 mostly because its illegal

Regardless of the age limit, people will do it. You change it to 18, kids from 16-XX will be drinking. You change it to 16, kids from 14-XX will be drinking. You can't win with these things. Personally, I'm not sure why alcohol is even legal at all.

Because prohibition worked out so well the last time we tried it?

 

[edro]

5 year old girls want to marry their fathers, but do we allow it?

A 15 or 16 year old girl can be highly influenced by a superior male teacher, even if he doesn't act.
Even if he is against it and the girl pressures him, she can still be the victim.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Personally I agree, teachers that do this are retarded mind you, but still. People are naive to think that 18 is the be all end all for people. WHich leads me to the drinking age, since if the drinking age was 18 here or around there like it is in the entire rest of the world, I wouldn't of been a practical alcoholic in HS. Kids drink so much from 16-20 mostly because its illegal

Regardless of the age limit, people will do it. You change it to 18, kids from 16-XX will be drinking. You change it to 16, kids from 14-XX will be drinking. You can't win with these things. Personally, I'm not sure why alcohol is even legal at all.

I don't believe that at all. I can only assume you know nobody that lives in Europe. I have family all over and people start drinking around 16-18 pretty much irregardless or the law. In france I think the age is 14 (I'm pretty sure) and the youth there are the most responsible drinkers in the world (that I have seen). They just drink a glass or two of wine a day, and usually dont drink to get drunk hardly at all - yes even in HS.

Frankly, americans are BY FAR the most irresponsible drinkers in the world (again from my experience) and our drinking age is the only 1st world country that its 21, only two other countries have 21 as the drinking age that I'm aware of and their both 3rd world. Coincidence? I don't think so, but I'm sure knowing facts won't change your mind any way.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: edro
5 year old girls want to marry their fathers, but do we allow it?

Wow. Because thats exactly the same thing as 16 yo's. Perfect comparisson

 

[jandrews]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
The fact that one of the girls thought they'd be together forever and she was in love with the guy, pretty much sums up her maturity level.

shoot i'm 25 and there are plenty of women who still act like that after you have sex.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
The fact that one of the girls thought they'd be together forever and she was in love with the guy, pretty much sums up her maturity level.

Maturity has nothing to do with it. Its experience that she lacks.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: jandrews

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
The fact that one of the girls thought they'd be together forever and she was in love with the guy, pretty much sums up her maturity level.

shoot i'm 25 and there are plenty of women who still act like that after you have sex.

lol i was gonna post that

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
the law must be upheld, if you don't like the law, vote for people that will change it

Or precident set.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Consenting doesn't mean that a 15/16 year old is mentally mature enough to make a proper decision.

Doesn't mean someone older than that is.

I

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Consenting doesn't mean that a 15/16 year old is mentally mature enough to make a proper decision.

Doesn't mean someone older than that is.

I

So, it should be fine for a five year old too.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
the law must be upheld, if you don't like the law, vote for people that will change it

I will counter that. Justice must be upheld. If the law is unjust you must not obey it while you try (against a heavily weighted and corrupted system) to get it changed. The important thing is to ALWAYS do what is right, not what is legal. No matter what.

Otherwise you must state publicly here and now that you believe people absolutely should have sent no good runaway n-words back to be raped, beaten, and killed as slaves...just because that was the law. It's one or the other.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Consenting doesn't mean that a 15/16 year old is mentally mature enough to make a proper decision.

Doesn't mean someone older than that is.

I

So, it should be fine for a five year old too.

For you I guess if you think they are the same, but it's typical for you to troll topics and have none your own.

I do agree it's against the law, but I also agree with matters of the heart so to speak there is not a fine line. I do think the laws are outdated on this and as long as parents are going to push their kids to grow up and be non-parents then this is the kind of thing that just gets pushed younger.

I am 35 now. In my day girls were intimate around 15/16 and were past heavy petting by 12. Many thought they had to wait until 15 or 16 as if it were a magical age. This was all before myspace/facebook/chat rooms really.

These girls knew what they were getting into as much as possible, they didn't make any different types of mistakes that anyone would once they start down this path.

Personally I never found many teens attractive even when I was that age. I had older g/fs mostly prefering those closer to 30-40 more for relationships and those 25 to 30 more for flings.

I think in these types of cases you can't go cut and dry with numbers like age...it's really more objective on what mindset the people are in the deal.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Consenting doesn't mean that a 15/16 year old is mentally mature enough to make a proper decision.

A teacher who knows the law and decides to break them. I have no sympathy for him.

if you can drive you can figure out who to f*ck.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Consenting doesn't mean that a 15/16 year old is mentally mature enough to make a proper decision.

Doesn't mean someone older than that is.

I

So, it should be fine for a five year old too.

comparing a 5 year old to a 15 year old = apples and UFOs.

Still, the guy was a complete moron. He was sleeping with two...16 year old girls...who were DRAMA students. And he thought he'd escape any drama?

I think that we need to have a gradient in the legal system. Considering everyone under 18 as the same makes NO sense in sex cases. There should be a difference between prepubescent and postpubescent, with much harsher penalties for the former. To do otherwise is unfair to the 17-year-olds, and very unfair to the 6-year-olds.

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Consenting doesn't mean that a 15/16 year old is mentally mature enough to make a proper decision.

A teacher who knows the law and decides to break them. I have no sympathy for him.

if you can drive you can figure out who to f*ck.

That's the problem. They can't drive.