More Netanyuhu Chutzpah

[Lemon law]

Today, in a telephone conversation with UN chief Ban K Moon, Israeli PM Netanyuhu vertually demanded the UN chief boycott a meeting of the 120 member strong set of non aligned nations. (Nan) As Nan consists of set of almost a 2/3 majority of the 192 existing UN members.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=28080

Sadly, IMHO, by the luck of the draw, that UN conference is to be hosted by Iran. And even then, worse yet, Iran's Achmadinejad is guilty of decided anti-sematism. But why should that muddy any water when Achmadinejad has little or no power inside Iran. As Iran has a track record of being perhaps the least anti-sematic nation in the 300 million strong set of mid-east nations.

Then there is another complication as Abbas has said he will take his case for UN statehood to the general assembly in the very near future. And its already somewhat a slam dunk that the of set of non-alligned nations will be only a part of over a the 2/3 of UN majority nations who will vote for Palestinian statehood. Not just this time but well into the future. As Israeli has zero claim to East Jerusalem, Gaza, or the West Bank.

Nor should the set of non aligned UN nations be without a voice or be accused of siding only against Israel, when they have many other issues, including the abolition of the UN security council with veto powers that has proven to be an inefferctive antique.

But still we are left with Netanyuhu chuczpah when a mere 7 million population nation presumes to lecture the UN chief on how to behave. Especially when Israeli behavior makes the present Israeli government the #1 threat to world peace.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

In!

 

[techs]

The irony of our times. Right wing self described super patriots want US policy to be set by the leader of a foreign nation.

 

[spidey07]

Anti-semitism. The cornerstone and pillar of a true liberal and this president.

 

[glenn1]

Let Palestinians have their UN declared state. Then as soon as rockets fly into Israel (via Hamas or whatever other origin) they'll have international law on their side as they exercise the right to self-defense and blow the shit out of them. Or outright invade, formally annex the territories, and kick the Palestinians to the curb for good.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The best the Palestinians can get is observational state status. The document will make a nice addition to Hamas walls

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Anti-semitism. The cornerstone and pillar of a true liberal and this president.

Most Jews are liberal. And what has Obama done that is "anti-Semitic"?

 

[techs]

Anti-semitism. The cornerstone and pillar of a true liberal and this president.

Most Jews are liberal. And what has Obama done that is "anti-Semitic"?

I thought it was directed at me. I am going to respond just as soon as I get this tephilin off and ask the rabbi what I should say.

 

[Jhhnn]

Anti-semitism. The cornerstone and pillar of a true liberal and this president.

Yeh, anybody opposed to the policy of the state of Israel is a Jew-hater, right? How lame.

The truth is that Israel gets a pass precisely because they are Jewish, and because we've conditioned ourselves into accepting a guilt trip over historical events that we didn't commit. If Israelis weren't Jewish, we'd have condemned that govt long ago. As it is, their supporters just threaten us with the usual guilt trip, causing many to dummy down.

 

[spidey07]

Yeh, anybody opposed to the policy of the state of Israel is a Jew-hater, right? How lame.

The truth is that Israel gets a pass precisely because they are Jewish, and because we've conditioned ourselves into accepting a guilt trip over historical events that we didn't commit. If Israelis weren't Jewish, we'd have condemned that govt long ago. As it is, their supporters just threaten us with the usual guilt trip, causing many to dummy down.

I rest my case. Jew hate is a liberal cornerstone. Reference Obama and wright. See how the liberal thinks and witness how much they hate Jews.

Naw, naw, naw!

See you in November. Remember the Jewish district in new York rlection? My dad is Jewish. Jews hate this president.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

What has Obama done that is "anti-Semitic"?

 

[a777pilot]

What has Obama done that is "anti-Semitic"?

Answer: Be a muslim. That's proof enough of being anti-Semitic.

 

[techs]

I rest my case. Jew hate is a liberal cornerstone. Reference Obama and wright. See how the liberal thinks and witness how much they hate Jews.

Naw, naw, naw!

See you in November. Remember the Jewish district in new York rlection? My dad is Jewish. Jews hate this president.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155111/mormons-widely-favor-romney-jewish-voters-back-obama.aspx
Gallup Poll June 8 2012

Jews love Obama. He is polling at 64 percent and Romney at 29 percent.

Sadly for you Jewish identity is inherited thru the mother.. so I guess you didn't get our intelligence.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Answer: Be a muslim. That's proof enough of being anti-Semitic.

The question was a simple one, and not directed to you.

For future reference, if I had wanted a moronic comment from an asshole, I would have said something like: "are there any assholes out there who could make a moronic comment?" And then your sort of response would be appropriate.

 

[Karl Agathon]

Most Jews are liberal. And what has Obama done that is "anti-Semitic"?

Very true that many jews tend to be liberal. Which is ironic, considering many "progressives" today hate Jews and Israel. Anti-Semitism has become very trendy in progressive circles these days, escpecially in far left academia. Of course, the liberalism that Jews identify with is a somewhat different brand then todays "progressive" As for Obama, I dont agree with Spidey, I dont think he is anti-Semetic. Although its fairly obvious that relations between he and BiBi have been frosty at times.

Genuine criticism of Israel (when not disguised as thinly veild Jew hate) doesn't make someone anti-Semitic by any means. if that were the case, that would make me an anti-Semite because I have had genuine criticisms of some Israeli policies in the past.

 

[Jhhnn]

I rest my case. Jew hate is a liberal cornerstone. Reference Obama and wright. See how the liberal thinks and witness how much they hate Jews.

Naw, naw, naw!

See you in November. Remember the Jewish district in new York rlection? My dad is Jewish. Jews hate this president.

You're not fooling anybody, not even yourself.

"My country, right or wrong!" is one thing but extending that sentiment to Israel is entirely another, falling into the realm of minds addled by decades of relentless & emotionally appealing propaganda.

 

[spidey07]

You're not fooling anybody, not even yourself.

"My country, right or wrong!" is one thing but extending that sentiment to Israel is entirely another, falling into the realm of minds addled by decades of relentless & emotionally appealing propaganda.

Again. I test my case.

Jew hate is the foundation of the liberal. You are a perfect example.

 

[cybrsage]

As Israeli has zero claim to East Jerusalem, Gaza, or the West Bank.

Actually, Israel has a LONG historical claim to the city. You cannot honestly tell me that you do not know about Yerushalayim being the religious and political center of Israel, with the Temple being built not once but twice on the same spot?

The only way to take ANY part of Jerusalem away from Israel is to slaughter Jews in a way that makes the Holacaust look like a walk through the park. In other words, it will never happen.

Israel giving up part of Jerusalem to Palestine has as much chance as Saudi Arabia giving up part of Mecca to Israel.

 

[techs]

I rest my case. Jew hate is a liberal cornerstone. Reference Obama and wright. See how the liberal thinks and witness how much they hate Jews.

Naw, naw, naw!

See you in November. Remember the Jewish district in new York rlection? My dad is Jewish. Jews hate this president.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155111/mormons-widely-favor-romney-jewish-voters-back-obama.aspx
Gallup Poll June 8 2012

Jews love Obama. He is polling at 64 percent and Romney at 29 percent.

Sadly for you Jewish identity is inherited thru the mother.. so I guess you didn't get our intelligence.

What? No reply Spidey?

 

[Lemon law]

In!

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Quite frankly Haybasusa, I am amazed at your somewhat egotistical response to my thread.

As you say, "Consider- I've been right and you've been consistently wrong. Now that is a personal score so I'll broaden it.

Let's have a material example that you and some others like to misrepresent, the IAEA.

Your own words:
Quote:
For what it is worth, Iran bases its claims on the right to enrich uranium on the terms of the NPT, while powers like the USA and Israel base their refusal more on the authority of the IAEA. The same flawed IAEA who claimed that Saddam had WMD.



Let's see how you fare against reality. It should back you up, right?"

I have thick skin as you somewhat assert this whole thread is all about you being heap smart and me being heap dumb. As I assert the Netanyuhu chutzpah has nothing to do about you and me and everything to do about the decisions made in the larger world.

As you Haybasusa want to talk about only the immediate past and I am talking about a not yet realized future.

After all Hayabusa, who in zero BC ever think Rome would fall. Or in 1900 AD that England would lose India. Or that the Apatheid system in South Africa would fall that fast. And that a Nelson Mendella would walk from jail to become head of State.

After that Haybasusa, its almost impossible to defend the stinking predictive track record of the IAEA.

But still maybe the biggest short term question is will UN chief Moon attend the Non alligned nations conference in Iran and listen to their many other non Israeli concerns or be a slave to only Israel?

 

[Lemon law]

As we move closer to the US general election in 11/2012 there is a reported growing rift between US and Israeli intel regarding Iranian nuclear weapons capalities.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/u-israel-odds-over-iran-nuke-program-intelligence-183255339.html

As Israel demands the USA act now now now while Israeli has been predicting it would get nuked by Iran within 2 years, each and every year since 2003.

Clearly now a job for the Infalliable IAEA that has somehow managed to get nothing right.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

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Quite frankly Haybasusa, I am amazed at your somewhat egotistical response to my thread.

As you say, "Consider- I've been right and you've been consistently wrong. Now that is a personal score so I'll broaden it.

Let's have a material example that you and some others like to misrepresent, the IAEA.

Your own words:
Quote:
For what it is worth, Iran bases its claims on the right to enrich uranium on the terms of the NPT, while powers like the USA and Israel base their refusal more on the authority of the IAEA. The same flawed IAEA who claimed that Saddam had WMD.



Let's see how you fare against reality. It should back you up, right?"

I have thick skin as you somewhat assert this whole thread is all about you being heap smart and me being heap dumb. As I assert the Netanyuhu chutzpah has nothing to do about you and me and everything to do about the decisions made in the larger world.

As you Haybasusa want to talk about only the immediate past and I am talking about a not yet realized future.

After all Hayabusa, who in zero BC ever think Rome would fall. Or in 1900 AD that England would lose India. Or that the Apatheid system in South Africa would fall that fast. And that a Nelson Mendella would walk from jail to become head of State.

After that Haybasusa, its almost impossible to defend the stinking predictive track record of the IAEA.

But still maybe the biggest short term question is will UN chief Moon attend the Non alligned nations conference in Iran and listen to their many other non Israeli concerns or be a slave to only Israel?

Look at the timeline in my sig and show where the IAEA
said Bush was right about Saddam. You still go after them. You also demonstrate your utter contempt for Israelis, while defending those who kill their own as responsible. Then bringing the fall of Rome? How long did that last? Here's my astounding prediction. In an infinity of time the universe we live in will pass away. Well thats grand but hardly the point. Now it's possible that those you support could exterminate those 7 million you have nothing but contempt for, however one thing sticks in the throats of Israel haters and thats the ability to retaliate. That's what drives them nuts. Too bad.

 

[Murloc]

Or outright invade, formally annex the territories, and kick the Palestinians to the curb for good.

they've been doing that for decades. It's a on-going process.
But who will make more kids, the colonists or the palestinians?
It's a demographic war, like in the communes around bruxelles where walloons are becoming the majority in flemish communes, and they don't even learn the language.

 

[Anarchist420]

Israel and Palestine can burn in hell for all I care. If the Israelis want peace, then they can come over here and relinquish their Israel citizenship if they want to hold office in the state I live in. Alternatively they can apply for statehood to the u.s.

I'm pissed off that I'll suffer the consequences of Americans being forced to give aid to goats especially foreign ones.

 

[Lemon law]

Look at the timeline in my sig and show where the IAEA
said Bush was right about Saddam. You still go after them. You also demonstrate your utter contempt for Israelis, while defending those who kill their own as responsible. Then bringing the fall of Rome? How long did that last? Here's my astounding prediction. In an infinity of time the universe we live in will pass away. Well thats grand but hardly the point. Now it's possible that those you support could exterminate those 7 million you have nothing but contempt for, however one thing sticks in the throats of Israel haters and thats the ability to retaliate. That's what drives them nuts. Too bad.

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Haybasusa, I have to really question your reading comprehension. As you accuse me of
" You also demonstrate your utter contempt for Israelis." When I have always stated I only question the polices of the present Israeli government. Then you ignore the fact the ex-PM
and current Israeli defense minister has publicly stated he not only understands why Palestinians rebel at the royal screwing the Israeli government gave them from 1947 to the present, but Barack said, if he was Palestinian, he too would likely be a terrorists. Now here we are 65 years later, and the entire middle-East is one big powder keg. And in MHO, if we are going to avoid a bloodbath no one can win, its going to take consessions on both sides. And IMHO, the needed Israeli consession is a total settlement freeze in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza. So the world can progress to a point where both Israelis
and the surrounding Arab nations can know peace and co-operate with each other.

But still Hayabasua, I have almost no respect for you and your ego. As you seek to make my link, that has nothing to do with you, me, the IAEA, Israel, or Iran into a solely personal issue.

When my link concerns only Netanyuhu chutzpah and puts UN Chief Moon on the horns of a dillema. As Netanyuhu demands Moon should boycott a meeting of the 120 majority of UN member states just because, by the luck of the draw, that meeting will occur in Iran.

Where does that leave Moon? On on hand Moon can comply to the demands of Netanyuhu while offending almost 2/3 of UN members. But that decision by Moon will demand an rapid answer in the near term future.