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More money than brains kills another idiot

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Pariah

Elite Member
I'm certainly not one to gloat or take joy in the death of others, but I have a real hard time feeling sorry for anyone dumb enough to drive in such a manner as to be able to split a car in half like this. It seems almost miraculous that the other occupant of the car is currently in stable condition.

Ferrari crash kills TapouT co-founder
 
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
 
/Obligatory "That'll buff right out"

Unbelievable. In most of these types of collisions, the passenger usually dies while the driver survives with non-life threatening injuries. Not that this is any better; just an observation.

I wonder if alcohol was a factor, or if Lewis was just driving like a dumbass.
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
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He was probably racing a guy in a Porsche:

"Before dawn Wednesday on a long, straight stretch of road in Newport Beach, Charles Lewis was killed when his red Ferrari collided with a white Porsche in an accident so violent that the red sports car was ripped in half and his female passenger was hurled into the street.

Police said the two cars appeared to have been traveling side by side at a high rate of speed at 12:57 a.m. on Jamboree Road near the Upper Newport Bay when they collided. Officers said they are investigating whether the drivers were racing.

The Porsche driver, identified as Jeffrey David Kirby, 51, of Costa Mesa, was arrested after allegedly abandoning his car on a side street near the collision and taking off on foot with his female passenger. Kirby is being held on suspicion of felony drunk driving and driving under the influence. Bail is set at $2 million.

Kirby's passenger, Lynn Marie Nabozny, 32, of Newport Beach, was arrested for public intoxication and later released. The motion picture database imdb.com lists a Lynn Marie Nabozny as having acted in the 1997 television series "The Heartbreak Cafe."

Lewis' passenger remained in critical condition at Western Medical Center in Santa Ana."

LATimes

So yeah it could have been the guy in the Porsche was drunk, amazingly a very high percentage of people driving after 12:00AM are.

Yet another reason not to race on the street.
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
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Speed limit on that road was 55MPH. You don't split a car in half like that doing 55. Whose fault it was is completely irrelevant when it is so obvious that this guy was driving well over the speed limit which is what almost undoubtedly killed him, and very fortunately, not his passenger. The other car was a Porsche. How much do you want to wager the two cars were racing?
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
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You don't rip a Ferrari in half by going 75mph and hitting a telephone pole.
 
Not trying to make fun but look at photo #3 with the caption "Orange County coroner's official inventories items from the crash scene" and look what he's holding.

I can see it now, he walks back to the office "yeah, he only had $10 on him, how weird is that?"
 
Originally posted by: Pariah
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
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Speed limit on that road was 55MPH. You don't split a car in half like that doing 55. Whose fault it was is completely irrelevant when it is so obvious that this guy was driving well over the speed limit which is what almost undoubtedly killed him, and very fortunately, not his passenger. The other car was a Porsche. How much do you want to wager the two cars were racing?
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I am not wagering anything until the report comes out. Were you on the scene?

 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
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You don't rip a Ferrari in half by going 75mph and hitting a telephone pole.
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What speed then? What diameter pole? Where should the impact be?
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
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You don't rip a Ferrari in half by going 75mph and hitting a telephone pole.
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What speed then? What diameter pole? Where should the impact be?
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35mph and a wooden dowel.

Honestly. Does it matter? It was fast enough to render the car into two individual parts.
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
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You don't rip a Ferrari in half by going 75mph and hitting a telephone pole.
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What speed then? What diameter pole? Where should the impact be?
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Did you look at the pictures? What's left of the pole is clearly visible underneath the remains of the front of the car in the first picture. Are you seriously trying to tell us that you require the official reports to come back to conclude this guy was driving over 55mph when he hit the pole?

Please describe to the rest of us who are too stupid to figure this one out, what the driver of the Porsche could have done to cause this Ferrari to shear in half like it did from hitting a pole at 55MPH. The Ferrari didn't wrap around the pole and split, the pole cut clean through the car. The intact roof tells us that the pole didn't cut through the mostly hollow cabin either, it cut clean through the dash board, right behind the front wheels.
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
Click to expand...

You don't rip a Ferrari in half by going 75mph and hitting a telephone pole.
Click to expand...

What speed then? What diameter pole? Where should the impact be?
Click to expand...

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Newport Beach police said Kirby's 1977 Porsche collided with the 2004 Ferrari Modena on Jamboree Road just before 1 a.m. Wednesday. The vehicles were traveling at a high rate of speed, and the impact sent the Ferrari into a light pole, ripping the car in half.
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75mph is not a high rate of speed...not on a 55mph road. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say they were traveling over 100mph.
 
Originally posted by: Pariah
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
Click to expand...

You don't rip a Ferrari in half by going 75mph and hitting a telephone pole.
Click to expand...

What speed then? What diameter pole? Where should the impact be?
Click to expand...

Did you look at the pictures? What's left of the pole is clearly visible underneath the remains of the front of the car in the first picture. Are you seriously trying to tell us that you require the official reports to come back to conclude this guy was driving over 55mph when he hit the pole?

Please describe to the rest of us who are too stupid to figure this one out, what the driver of the Porsche could have done to cause this Ferrari to shear in half like it did from hitting a pole at 55MPH. The Ferrari didn't wrap around the pole and split, the pole cut clean through the car. The intact roof tells us that the pole didn't cut through the mostly hollow cabin either, it cut clean through the dash board, right behind the front wheels.
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Hence my AFAIK above...I haven't revisited the story since it broke last night.

There is a lot more info now.

However; unless one knows exactly how fast a car needs to be going to split in half they are just speculating.

 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Pariah
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I love how although no one (AFAIK) has placed any blame on other than the other driver, ATards are quick to blame the cooler dude than they are with fault.

If one is traveling 75 in a 75 and some asshat forces you into a telephone pole, you are going to be dead. You car will more than likely be in pieces.

The kicker is you didn't do anything wrong.
Click to expand...

You don't rip a Ferrari in half by going 75mph and hitting a telephone pole.
Click to expand...

What speed then? What diameter pole? Where should the impact be?
Click to expand...

Did you look at the pictures? What's left of the pole is clearly visible underneath the remains of the front of the car in the first picture. Are you seriously trying to tell us that you require the official reports to come back to conclude this guy was driving over 55mph when he hit the pole?

Please describe to the rest of us who are too stupid to figure this one out, what the driver of the Porsche could have done to cause this Ferrari to shear in half like it did from hitting a pole at 55MPH. The Ferrari didn't wrap around the pole and split, the pole cut clean through the car. The intact roof tells us that the pole didn't cut through the mostly hollow cabin either, it cut clean through the dash board, right behind the front wheels.
Click to expand...

Hence my AFAIK above...I haven't revisited the story since it broke last night.

There is a lot more info now.

However; unless one knows exactly how fast a car needs to be going to split in half they are just speculating.
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Did you see the picture of the light pole the car hit? It is made of concrete and the car sheered it in half. I've seen these light poles up close and you wouldn't want to hit one trust me. To sheer it off completely would take some serious speed.
 
Give any guy a fast supercar and sooner or later he's gonna do something stupid with it. I'm not condoning what he did but give me a ferrari and I'll be taking it to some insane speeds too.

Also, it doesn't take much speed to split a car. There was a incident locally awhile back where a scion tc, yes that's correct...a scion got to speeds fast enough to split in half after hitting a tree and killing all its occupants.
 
Originally posted by: jtvang125
Give any guy a fast supercar and sooner or later he's gonna do something stupid with it. I'm not condoning what he did but give me a ferrari and I'll be taking it to some insane speeds too.

Also, it doesn't take much speed to split a car. There was a incident locally awhile back where a scion tc, yes that's correct...a scion got to speeds fast enough to split in half after hitting a tree and killing all its occupants.
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Well, as slow as a Scion is it is still capable of a top speed of around 120-130mph...which is way faster than anyone should be going on most public roads and fast enough to break a car into two pieces if it hits something like a stout light post or a tree.
 
The way a ferrari is built they are sort of designed to sheer. There was another one that just went off road (an Enzo) in excess of 120mph and sheered without hitting anything like a light pole. Even at 55mph hitting an immovable object like a pole will do severe damage.
 
Why does no one ever complain that a $300K Ferrari is poorly built vehicle for it's performance level.? Why is it whenever I see photos of another dumbass killing himself in his over priced toy it is cut in half or many pieces? Cheap cars that do over 120 mph tend to crush or get mangled but it is damned hard to tear on in half.
 
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: alkemyst
unibody vs space frame
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You can build one very stout. There simply is no excuse not to at the price level of these cars. That is not an excuse.
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Then people will complain that they will be as porky as Audi's are.
 
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