More layoffs at Focus on the Family

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Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Sayin' it again: Putting anything about gay marriage into the US Constitution is plain idiocy that smacks of a theocracy, something as backwards as the Taliban. With the exception of the 18th Amendment (Prohibition), the Amendments deal with government operation, restrictions of government power, and expansion of personal freedoms. Term limits, granting the right to vote to various demographics, the right to weapon ownership, restriction of police powers, etc.

The fact that people are seriously considering putting something into THE CONSTITUTION about governing this country's sexual behavior is quite disturbing.

 

DealMonkey

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Nov 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
This story is seriously making me reconsider the merits of Proposition 8. After all, what better way to bankrupt the bigoted homophobic religious orgs around this country, than to lure them into various states with the promises of gay marriage bans, have them pump millions upon millions of their tax-free dollars into the effort, only to have the rug pulled out from under them by the courts when they rule the bans are unconstitutional?

It's pure genius.

LOL. You think $500,000 spent towards supporting prop-8 forced FOTF to lay off employees? You hare don't have any clue, do you?

You're a hare! :p

Yes, I think it was a contributing factor at the very least. You seem skeptical though, so feel free to put forth a better explanation. Either way, so long as we can get at least 4-5 states to put forth anti-gay marriage bills on their ballots every two years, FOTF will be bankrupt in no time. It's the ultimate honeypot for ignorant bigoted homophobic shitheads!


i obviously meant to say "You really dont have any clue, do you?" I blame that one on holding a baby in one hand while typing and not having my coffee yet!

Anyways, do you have ANY idea how much money the FOTF group goes through? $500,000 is a drop in the bucket to them. If anything, their recent layoffs are do to the economy effecting the ammount of donations they have received. But nice huffington post talking point!

If you say so. While FOTF has quite a little nest egg, their pledges for 2007 seem to total around $2 Million.

http://www.focusonthefamily.co...s/2007annualreport.pdf

So they spent 25% of their '07 pledge money on this action. That sure is a lot of cash to waste on intolerance and bigotry, but I suppose it's their money to waste as they wish.

:thumbsdown:
 

EagleKeeper

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Oct 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
This story is seriously making me reconsider the merits of Proposition 8. After all, what better way to bankrupt the bigoted homophobic religious orgs around this country, than to lure them into various states with the promises of gay marriage bans, have them pump millions upon millions of their tax-free dollars into the effort, only to have the rug pulled out from under them by the courts when they rule the bans are unconstitutional?

It's pure genius.

LOL. You think $500,000 spent towards supporting prop-8 forced FOTF to lay off employees? You hare don't have any clue, do you?

You're a hare! :p

Yes, I think it was a contributing factor at the very least. You seem skeptical though, so feel free to put forth a better explanation. Either way, so long as we can get at least 4-5 states to put forth anti-gay marriage bills on their ballots every two years, FOTF will be bankrupt in no time. It's the ultimate honeypot for ignorant bigoted homophobic shitheads!


i obviously meant to say "You really don't have any clue, do you?" I blame that one on holding a baby in one hand while typing and not having my coffee yet!

Anyways, do you have ANY idea how much money the FOTF group goes through? $500,000 is a drop in the bucket to them. If anything, their recent layoffs are do to the economy effecting the amount of donations they have received. But nice huffington post talking point!

If you say so. While FOTF has quite a little nest egg, their pledges for 2007 seem to total around $2 Million.

http://www.focusonthefamily.co...s/2007annualreport.pdf

So they spent 25% of their '07 pledge money on this action. That sure is a lot of cash to waste on intolerance and bigotry, but I suppose it's their money to waste as they wish.

:thumbsdown:

Because the funds were collected well over a year ago, those people that donated may have no idea what the funds were used for.

And such organizations may couch their filings to the Feds to gloss over the purpose.
Donors do not normally read such filings anyhow, so they only know what the propaganda pamphlets state.

 

Corbett

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Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
This story is seriously making me reconsider the merits of Proposition 8. After all, what better way to bankrupt the bigoted homophobic religious orgs around this country, than to lure them into various states with the promises of gay marriage bans, have them pump millions upon millions of their tax-free dollars into the effort, only to have the rug pulled out from under them by the courts when they rule the bans are unconstitutional?

It's pure genius.

LOL. You think $500,000 spent towards supporting prop-8 forced FOTF to lay off employees? You hare don't have any clue, do you?

You're a hare! :p

Yes, I think it was a contributing factor at the very least. You seem skeptical though, so feel free to put forth a better explanation. Either way, so long as we can get at least 4-5 states to put forth anti-gay marriage bills on their ballots every two years, FOTF will be bankrupt in no time. It's the ultimate honeypot for ignorant bigoted homophobic shitheads!


i obviously meant to say "You really dont have any clue, do you?" I blame that one on holding a baby in one hand while typing and not having my coffee yet!

Anyways, do you have ANY idea how much money the FOTF group goes through? $500,000 is a drop in the bucket to them. If anything, their recent layoffs are do to the economy effecting the ammount of donations they have received. But nice huffington post talking point!

If you say so. While FOTF has quite a little nest egg, their pledges for 2007 seem to total around $2 Million.

http://www.focusonthefamily.co...s/2007annualreport.pdf

So they spent 25% of their '07 pledge money on this action. That sure is a lot of cash to waste on intolerance and bigotry, but I suppose it's their money to waste as they wish.

:thumbsdown:

Do you know what FOTF's annual budget is? Around $150,000,000.

Do you really want to claim that Focus on the Family had layoffs because they spent 1/3 of 1% of their budget on Prop 8?
 

Harvey

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Corbett

Do you know what FOTF's annual budget is? Around $150,000,000.

Do you really want to claim that Focus on the Family had layoffs because they spent 1/3 of 1% of their budget on Prop 8?

Maybe it's their god's punishment for the sum of all of their abject stupidity. With any luck they'll blow off the rest of their stash while they're at it. :laugh:
 

DealMonkey

Lifer
Nov 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
This story is seriously making me reconsider the merits of Proposition 8. After all, what better way to bankrupt the bigoted homophobic religious orgs around this country, than to lure them into various states with the promises of gay marriage bans, have them pump millions upon millions of their tax-free dollars into the effort, only to have the rug pulled out from under them by the courts when they rule the bans are unconstitutional?

It's pure genius.

LOL. You think $500,000 spent towards supporting prop-8 forced FOTF to lay off employees? You hare don't have any clue, do you?

You're a hare! :p

Yes, I think it was a contributing factor at the very least. You seem skeptical though, so feel free to put forth a better explanation. Either way, so long as we can get at least 4-5 states to put forth anti-gay marriage bills on their ballots every two years, FOTF will be bankrupt in no time. It's the ultimate honeypot for ignorant bigoted homophobic shitheads!


i obviously meant to say "You really dont have any clue, do you?" I blame that one on holding a baby in one hand while typing and not having my coffee yet!

Anyways, do you have ANY idea how much money the FOTF group goes through? $500,000 is a drop in the bucket to them. If anything, their recent layoffs are do to the economy effecting the ammount of donations they have received. But nice huffington post talking point!

If you say so. While FOTF has quite a little nest egg, their pledges for 2007 seem to total around $2 Million.

http://www.focusonthefamily.co...s/2007annualreport.pdf

So they spent 25% of their '07 pledge money on this action. That sure is a lot of cash to waste on intolerance and bigotry, but I suppose it's their money to waste as they wish.

:thumbsdown:

Do you know what FOTF's annual budget is? Around $150,000,000.

Do you really want to claim that Focus on the Family had layoffs because they spent 1/3 of 1% of their budget on Prop 8?

Their own annual report supports nowhere near that figure. Where do you get that from?
 

Corbett

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
This story is seriously making me reconsider the merits of Proposition 8. After all, what better way to bankrupt the bigoted homophobic religious orgs around this country, than to lure them into various states with the promises of gay marriage bans, have them pump millions upon millions of their tax-free dollars into the effort, only to have the rug pulled out from under them by the courts when they rule the bans are unconstitutional?

It's pure genius.

LOL. You think $500,000 spent towards supporting prop-8 forced FOTF to lay off employees? You hare don't have any clue, do you?

You're a hare! :p

Yes, I think it was a contributing factor at the very least. You seem skeptical though, so feel free to put forth a better explanation. Either way, so long as we can get at least 4-5 states to put forth anti-gay marriage bills on their ballots every two years, FOTF will be bankrupt in no time. It's the ultimate honeypot for ignorant bigoted homophobic shitheads!


i obviously meant to say "You really dont have any clue, do you?" I blame that one on holding a baby in one hand while typing and not having my coffee yet!

Anyways, do you have ANY idea how much money the FOTF group goes through? $500,000 is a drop in the bucket to them. If anything, their recent layoffs are do to the economy effecting the ammount of donations they have received. But nice huffington post talking point!

If you say so. While FOTF has quite a little nest egg, their pledges for 2007 seem to total around $2 Million.

http://www.focusonthefamily.co...s/2007annualreport.pdf

So they spent 25% of their '07 pledge money on this action. That sure is a lot of cash to waste on intolerance and bigotry, but I suppose it's their money to waste as they wish.

:thumbsdown:

Do you know what FOTF's annual budget is? Around $150,000,000.

Do you really want to claim that Focus on the Family had layoffs because they spent 1/3 of 1% of their budget on Prop 8?

Their own annual report supports nowhere near that figure. Where do you get that from?

http://www.gazette.com/news/fo...lays_eliminationg.html

http://blog.christianitytoday....1/focus_on_the_fa.html
 

BMW540I6speed

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Aug 26, 2005
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Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Sometime in the future, historical analysis may show that the gay and abortion issues became the self-constructed doomsday device for the Christian churches and groups in this country.

Already, churches are dividing over these issues, diluting their wealth and influence. More and more we see people coming to the conclusion that many groups like Focus on the Family as well outside of mainstream society; inching them ever closer to being a voice in the wilderness. We have the Westboro Baptist Church to constantly remind everybody that religion CAN make you crazy. Claims that it is a sin to vote for anyone not opposing abortion is making a lot of people scratch their heads and wonder at the wisdom of their church leaders.

The creationism/ID argument is icing on the cake, making some see religion as at least quaint, if not completely bogged down in superstition.

The issue is control. Control over one's sexuality and that of others. Control over women and children. The monotheistic churches have a central premise the subordination of man to god and of women and children to man. Feminism is such a refutation of that belief that it is literally driving a lot of men crazy. Whole societies are now mobilized to stop the advance of women. But they will not win. And gays will get their rights too. You can't put the genie back in the bottle.

These religious leaders and follower?s have a incalculable fear of losing their grip on power and control. Demonizing the gays is much more socially acceptable than to rant and rave about women who carry on without a husband or with a man but outside the religious sacrament of "marriage".

Unfortunately for these religions, the harder they try to hang onto their control, the faster they will surely lose it. Another reason for all the fear is that these religions have always been based on power, money, and men. Gay men threaten these religious men more than women ever will or could.

The link between gay rights and feminism is long overdue. I've long felt the real reason so many (mostly conservatives) object to gay marriage is that when you look at a gay couple, it isn't readily apparent who's in charge. Some may invision how gay couples are redefining power sharing in marriages and as a result are able to settle disputes in more lasting ways. If our society is truly interested in strengthening marriage and reducing our notoriously high divorce rate, it should pay attention to this development and respect gay couples' wish to marry.

There's very much a divide and conquer strategy among religious goups that seek out disaffected minorities for support against gay rights. Religion uses the same tactics as Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. Focus on the Family is so pleased with their victory but they now must lay off many in these economic times. How proud the leaders must be. Imagine the blessings at empty tables.

With the will of God behind unjust wars, denying freedom of choice and used as the battle cry behind endless condemnation of everything, perhaps it is time to admit that in America these churches are the facists that they are. Isn't the masculinization of the Deity the greatest blasphemy of all? And also the humanization of the Deity (if any)... The Deity (if any) of the big bang, a gazillion nebulae, quantum physics, etc. etc. dwarfed into a desert warlord who wants all his male subjects to be big bad warriors. It's so absurd that it baffles me that anyone buys it.