more headaches at college...

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: FishTankX
Then I sawy it was a fan failure..

nope fan spins. keep on guessing, even though i told you what was wrong....

 

[dnuggett]

I give up what was wrong?

 

[tmarshallt]

dnugget, haven't you read the whole post?

Sheeze.

No arctic silver=burnt up CPU.

Unless little nicky works for the Arctic Silver company.....Like Chewley's Gum in the movie Clerks.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: tmarshallt
dnugget, haven't you read the whole post?

Sheeze.

No arctic silver=burnt up CPU.

Unless little nicky works for the Arctic Silver company.....Like Chewley's Gum in the movie Clerks.

i didnt say arctic silver, i said thermal paste and i know you all think you are right somehow and that i am wrong. but the fact remains, the cpu is fried. heatsink is a good one, it was seated properly, and the fan works fine. the only think i can think of that could have fried the cpu was the lack of thermal paste. he said he got the computer to boot up fine a couple times, then it just wouldnt turn on anymore. im thinking he just taxed the not-properly-cooled cpu too much and it couldnt handle it.

 

[tmarshallt]

Q3: I've burnt CPUs too often, and at least two are already in the trash can, what is going on here?


A: Thermal issues were a serious issue for FIC's hardware engineers while designing our AZ series products. They needed to compromise ACPI CPU suspend to stop fan, to keep the fan running in order to reduce the chances of the CPU getting fried. Also, the user must be aware that on AMD's Socket A CPU there are four round pads on the top view side to ensure parallel connection with the die and sucessful heat dissipation. Special attention must be payed to correct installation here and use of any grease or oils in the gap is strongly recommended.

 

[Dartigan]

All this talk... it makes me just wish I was back in college.

Oh yeah. I'm new to AnandTech forums.

 

[yipperzz]

maybe the cpu was bad. no thermal paste != melted cpu. that's all i was trying to say. thermal paste should never be blamed for a melted cpu because it doesn't make that much of a difference. it makes you run cooler, but it won't melt a cpu. and like someone said earlier the motherboard should have shut down because of the heat. something was wrong there and it wasn't your fault. like always, it's user error.

 

[mrweirdo]

*wonders if he could have massively overclocked it
That along with no thermal paste and motherboard not shuting down could have caused the cpu to fry.

 

[NesuD]

it was seated properly. i turned on his computer and i felt the side of the heatsink for the heck of it and it was FLAMING HOT. the cpu had formed a bubble next to the die, and 2 of the 4 little rubber pads were deformed and mishaped, im assuming from heat. now if your trying to tell me that the CPU didnt fry do to no thermal paste, i am having a hard time believing that.

If the 2 of the riiber pads were deforming from heat than the heatsink wasnot correctly seated. if it were correctly seated then even without past it would have easily pulled enough heat off the core to prevent that. there is clear evidence that the substrate overheated which meant bad or no heatsink contact.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: FishTankX
Then I sawy it was a fan failure..

he probably forgot to plug in the fan, fried it, then plugged it in before nick got there. in 10+ years of pc repair (and not college dorm room, real world getting paid for it repair) i've never seen lack of thermal paste cause a cpu to bubble on the first boot if the hsf was properly attached and the fan was running.

but! he was there! you weren't! therefore his reasoning must be right! or something...

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: FishTankX
It's unlikely that the CPU was burned up as the result of no thermal paste.

Thermal paste can at most make a difference of about 10-15C. So an AthlonXP 3200+ with thermal paste should theoretically run hotter than an 1800+ without.

I'd look for other areas of the system. Espically if you don't find any burn smells on his CPU.

EHHHH!! YOU LOSE

i put in an old athlon t-bird and system boots fine(with thermal paste of course) his 2500 had a nice bubble next to the core.

i'm guessing it was this type of attitude that turned the thread into a "flamefest" anyhow. when people try to explain things to you that you don't understand you should listen and not be a smartass about it.

 

[InlineFive]

I burnt out three CPUs in a row once. I was tired and I couldn't figure out why this processor kept not working in this motherboard. So I tried another one, it burnt that out and those two didn't work in any other computer. Stupidly I still didn't get the gist and went all my regular use and backup processors doing this untill I realized that the board was killing my processors and now I was out three perfectly useful Athlon XPs. That was my all time computing low.


-Por

 

[mrweirdo]

ouch that sucks. lots of usefull money waisted on extra cpus :/