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Newell Steamer

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lol She could exercise my.....

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WhoBeDaPlaya

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About 2500 for men, or more than that if you're grotesquely overweight.
You sure you aren't mixing up BMR and TDEE?
BMR : What you burn if you're comatose
TDEE : BMR + additional calories burnt doing ANYTHING else (farting, jerking off, etc.)

Example : 220lbs 6ft guy with 22% BF - BMR : 2055, TDEE (sedentary) : 2466 (using Katch-McCardle)
 
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Slew Foot

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So, the government must now name a new Czar, and create a new department, and food suppliers must add new labels. Thus driving the price of my pizza up a dollar to tell me something I already knew.
Thanks Obama!

And the czar cant have any experience in medicne, nutrition, healthcare, or fitness.
 

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I approve of this messaging. Cycled 50Km on Thanksgiving to earn the right to eat a mountain of stuffing and pie.
 

Markbnj

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And you automatically assumed our eater is a she, for good reason. :D

Basically, this seems to be condoning starvation diets, which are not remotely healthy.

Actually I was just following the lead of the image posted in the OP, which refers to a woman :).
 

SP33Demon

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Right, it's bullshit. She'd have to spend that time to burn off those calories if those calories were added to the baseline she already burned through normal activity in a given time period, and if she really cared about the amount of weight those additional calories would convert to. Unless she is exceeding her needs by the same amount every day as a matter of habit this is completely meaningless. It's the sort of pseudo-scientific pablum modern media consumers lap up, though.

Except most Americans are exceeding their caloric needs every day which is why it's not meaningless. We are getting fatter by the hour and half of America doesn't even know what their BMR should be.
 

Markbnj

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Except most Americans are exceeding their caloric needs every day which is why it's not meaningless. We are getting fatter by the hour and half of America doesn't even know what their BMR should be.

It's still bullshit, whatever your feelings about our national health. Taking in more calories than you need has a cost in work if you want to balance the account by burning them instead of storing them. Two slices of pizza do not in and of themselves come with any cost in additional work. In other words, bullshit.
 

Rakehellion

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You sure you aren't mixing up BMR and TDEE?
BMR : What you burn if you're comatose
TDEE : BMR + additional calories burnt doing ANYTHING else (farting, jerking off, etc.)

Example : 220lbs 6ft guy with 22% BF - BMR : 2055, TDEE (sedentary) : 2466 (using Katch-McCardle)

You're probably not ordering pizza if you're in a coma.
 

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I once decided to go for a walk, basically waked this trail that ends up being about 11km, then I walked to the local small conservation area/lake and walked around the lake a bunch of times. I think the whole thing ended up being close to 20km.

On my way out for that walked I had grabbed a hand full of M&M's as a quick snack. When I got back from that walk out of curiosity I googled to find a calorie burn calculator, I put in the walk and all the details and it turns out that long walk did not even burn those M&M's.

I'd hate to see what it takes to burn off a large bacon poutine. Of course that random calculator could have been way off too.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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How the heck much M&Ms did you grab? :eek:
Wouldn't even just walking a level 20km burn close to 1100 calories? That's assuming 10min/km for a 160lbs guy.
 
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Staples

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I am for these ads. People seem to think a walk around the block will burn off a hamburger.
 

Red Squirrel

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How the heck much M&Ms did you grab? :eek:
Wouldn't even just walking a level 20km burn close to 1100 calories? That's assuming 10min/km for a 160lbs guy.

The calculator had told me it was like 200 calories or something, and the M&M's were like a couple hundred on their own. Though I'm thinking/hoping that calculator was wrong. :awe:
 

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I am for these ads. People seem to think a walk around the block will burn off a hamburger.

The dynamics of exercise and diet are not as simple as that. About 18 months ago I made one dietary change, removing sugar from my daily coffee intake (about 6-8 cups/day, 3 tsps of sugar/cup), and started walking two miles a night with my dogs. The net result for me after a year and a half is > 40 pounds net weight reduction (my previous weight was in the neighborhood of 265 lbs, and I am now around 220 lbs.), and 6" waist size reduction (44" to 38"). I doubt that you could make the math on that work out using simple metrics for how many calories a brisk walk burns, and how many calories are in the sugar I stopped eating, however, that is what happened as can be attested to by family, friends, and previous posts I've made here.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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The calculator had told me it was like 200 calories or something, and the M&M's were like a couple hundred on their own. Though I'm thinking/hoping that calculator was wrong. :awe:
Definitely. If it were my whaley ass walking a level 20km, it would be ~1700cals :eek:
The dynamics of exercise and diet are not as simple as that. About 18 months ago I made one dietary change, removing sugar from my daily coffee intake (about 6-8 cups/day, 3 tsps of sugar/cup), and started walking two miles a night with my dogs. The net result for me after a year and a half is > 40 pounds net weight reduction (my previous weight was in the neighborhood of 265 lbs, and I am now around 220 lbs.), and 6" waist size reduction (44" to 38"). I doubt that you could make the math on that work out using simple metrics for how many calories a brisk walk burns, and how many calories are in the sugar I stopped eating, however, that is what happened as can be attested to by family, friends, and previous posts I've made here.
Actually, the math kinda works out (depending on your caloric intake over that period).
Two miles ~320 calories burned at your weight, potentially equating to ~0.64lbs/week of loss.

Assuming you weren't overindulging (ie. your intake was >= BMR but <= TDEE w/o the walking) :
18mo x 4 x 0.64 = 46.08lbs loss

Sounds about right to me.
 
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Definitely. If it were my whaley ass walking a level 20km, it would be ~1700cals :eek:

Actually, the math kinda works out (depending on your caloric intake over that period).
Two miles ~320 calories burned at your weight, potentially equating to ~0.64lbs/week of loss.

Assuming you weren't overindulging (ie. your intake was >= BMR but <= TDEE w/o the walking) :
18mo x 4 x 0.64 = 46.08lbs loss

Sounds about right to me.

I had to drive to philly tonight and was thinking it over and came to the same conclusion. It actually does come pretty close. I figured roughly that 40 lbs == 140k calories, divided by 500 days == 280 calories a day.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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I had to drive to philly tonight and was thinking it over and came to the same conclusion. It actually does come pretty close. I figured roughly that 40 lbs == 140k calories, divided by 500 days == 280 calories a day.
Exactly! Yes, 18 months of effort stinks a little, but when you consider it took 1-2 decades for us to get this this, 1-2 years to fix the damage is a bargain :)
 

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Exactly! Yes, 18 months of effort stinks a little, but when you consider it took 1-2 decades for us to get this this, 1-2 years to fix the damage is a bargain :)

It does illustrate that you can solve the problem with steady, small steps. We had a thread here awhile back where someone suggested walking and got roundly smacked because obviously just walking isn't going to cure some fatty's food addiction. But I bet a lot of people are more like I was, just accumulating a little deficit every day because they're not getting any physical activity at all. For those people a walk a day might just tip the scales.
 

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I'm in my mid-late 30s and eat a pie of pizza in 1 sitting frequently. Today for lunch I had a half a burger and a full plate of chicken alfredo pasta. I can't get anywhere north of 150lbs. The only exercise I have is a game or 2 a week of hockey. I think the only way for me to gain weight is to get off my ass and get muscle mass.

2 slices of pizza does nothing for my appetite.

My wife on the other hand has done nightly workouts (and has made great progress). Since January, she's consistently lost a pound a week. I see her doing her workouts and it simply "isn't fair" that I can just sit around most days and be skinny. :D
 
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