More charges of attempted vote fraud in Michigan.

[imported_tajmahal]

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-officials-charge-3-women-170033374.html

"Michigan officials charged three individuals with attempted voter fraud in relation to the 2020 general election, but have urged the public to stop spreading claims of "widespread" fraud.

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson on Monday charged Trenae Myesha Rainy, Carless Clark and Nancy Juanita Williams in connection with fraud. A state investigation resulted in accusations that the women purposefully filled out ballot applications and ballots incorrectly during the November 2020 general election.

Officials said the outcomes of the investigations prove Michigan’s anti-fraud measures are effective, as only one of the instances was caught after the end of voting. Less than 1% of the 5.5 million votes in Michigan have thus far been tied to election fraud."

By the way in case you were wondering, 1% of 5.5 million votes is 55,000 votes.


"Williams attempted to control absentee ballots for largely incapacitated individuals under her care, submitting voter registrations on their behalf. Rainey filled out applications and forged signatures for residents at an assisted living facility who had not yet verified they were interested in voting.

Both instances were caught in Oct. 2020. Williams submitted 26 absentee ballots, and Rainey submitted 3 – all of which were caught via the signature matching process."

Did these cases change the winner of the Michigan election ? No they didn't, but there are good reasons not to make vote fraud easier.

 

[Jhhnn]

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-officials-charge-3-women-170033374.html

"Michigan officials charged three individuals with attempted voter fraud in relation to the 2020 general election, but have urged the public to stop spreading claims of "widespread" fraud.

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson on Monday charged Trenae Myesha Rainy, Carless Clark and Nancy Juanita Williams in connection with fraud. A state investigation resulted in accusations that the women purposefully filled out ballot applications and ballots incorrectly during the November 2020 general election.

Officials said the outcomes of the investigations prove Michigan’s anti-fraud measures are effective, as only one of the instances was caught after the end of voting. Less than 1% of the 5.5 million votes in Michigan have thus far been tied to election fraud."

By the way in case you were wondering, 1% of 5.5 million votes is 55,000 votes.


"Williams attempted to control absentee ballots for largely incapacitated individuals under her care, submitting voter registrations on their behalf. Rainey filled out applications and forged signatures for residents at an assisted living facility who had not yet verified they were interested in voting.

Both instances were caught in Oct. 2020. Williams submitted 26 absentee ballots, and Rainey submitted 3 – all of which were caught via the signature matching process."

Did these cases change the winner of the Michigan election ? No they didn't, but there are good reasons not to make vote fraud easier.

So the anti-fraud measures in place a the time worked as intended. Good to know. Your link doesn't work, either. This one does-

Michigan Officials Charge 3 People With Voter Fraud, Tell Trump Supporters To ‘Stop Spreading Lies’ Fraud Is Widespread

The secretary of state said the charges “send a clear message to those who promote deceitful claims about widespread fraud.”

www.forbes.com

 

[Lanyap]

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-officials-charge-3-women-170033374.html

"Michigan officials charged three individuals with attempted voter fraud in relation to the 2020 general election, but have urged the public to stop spreading claims of "widespread" fraud.

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson on Monday charged Trenae Myesha Rainy, Carless Clark and Nancy Juanita Williams in connection with fraud. A state investigation resulted in accusations that the women purposefully filled out ballot applications and ballots incorrectly during the November 2020 general election.

Officials said the outcomes of the investigations prove Michigan’s anti-fraud measures are effective, as only one of the instances was caught after the end of voting. Less than 1% of the 5.5 million votes in Michigan have thus far been tied to election fraud."

By the way in case you were wondering, 1% of 5.5 million votes is 55,000 votes.


"Williams attempted to control absentee ballots for largely incapacitated individuals under her care, submitting voter registrations on their behalf. Rainey filled out applications and forged signatures for residents at an assisted living facility who had not yet verified they were interested in voting.

Both instances were caught in Oct. 2020. Williams submitted 26 absentee ballots, and Rainey submitted 3 – all of which were caught via the signature matching process."

Did these cases change the winner of the Michigan election ? No they didn't, but there are good reasons not to make vote fraud easier.

Why don’t you do some digging and tell us exactly how many votes were fraudulent.

5.5 million. That’s how many people voted in the 2020 election in Michigan, according to the secretary of state’s office, meaning the instances of voter fraud that have been identified represent far less than even 1% of the total votes cast.

Michigan Officials Charge 3 People With Voter Fraud, Tell Trump Supporters To ‘Stop Spreading Lies’ Fraud Is Widespread

The secretary of state said the charges “send a clear message to those who promote deceitful claims about widespread fraud.”

www.forbes.com

 

[compcons]

The conservative brain needs only a single data point to come to any conclusion that helps soothe itself. An infinite number of data points is insufficient to sway it from its preconceived ideals.

 

[trenchfoot]

The conservative brain needs only a single data point to come to any conclusion that helps soothe itself. An infinite number of data points is insufficient to sway it from its preconceived ideals.

I agree with the premise of your post however I felt compelled to object to your use of the term "preconceived ideals" (I know you were just trying to be polite about it) as the party have no ideals after Trump took over other than the hate and fear diatribes their racist, nativist and religiously fanatical ones espouse so loudly and so incessantly.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

I can't find out which candidate the votes were cast for, but Macomb went Orange and Oakland Blue.

Macomb Co. - Election Results - Electors of President and Vice President of the United States

Redirecting...

 

[Shamrock]

Why don’t you do some digging and tell us exactly how many votes were fraudulent.

Michigan Officials Charge 3 People With Voter Fraud, Tell Trump Supporters To ‘Stop Spreading Lies’ Fraud Is Widespread

The secretary of state said the charges “send a clear message to those who promote deceitful claims about widespread fraud.”

www.forbes.com

It's in the article, a whopping 29!

Both instances were caught in Oct. 2020. Williams submitted 26 absentee ballots, and Rainey submitted 3 – all of which were caught via the signature matching process."

 

[TheVrolok]

This is literal evidence we don't need further restrictions. K.

 

[WelshBloke]

Both instances were caught in Oct. 2020. Williams submitted 26 absentee ballots, and Rainey submitted 3 – all of which were caught via the signature matching process."

Did these cases change the winner of the Michigan election ? No they didn't, but there are good reasons not to make vote fraud easier.

Lolz.

 

[Meghan54]

So, help an old guy out. What is the OP complaining about this time? That the system worked as intended?

 

[ivwshane]

So, help an old guy out. What is the OP complaining about this time? That the system worked as intended?

I think he’s trying to give us a heads up that him and his traitor friends committed lots of voter fraud.

 

[sandorski]

3 eh? Better recount make sure this doesn't change the outcome...

 

[dank69]

It's in the article, a whopping 29!

Less than 1%, let's round that 29 up to 55,000 with a straight face.

 

[HomerJS]

In case anyone didn't realize it, mail in voting does not make fraud easier. Just look at the states that have been doing it for more then 10 years.

Other things that don't make fraud easier...
early no excuse voting
more polling places in densely populated areas
longer hours
Sunday voting

Yet Republicans have been trying to get rid of or limit all of those.

Know what makes fraud easier, a President calling up a Sec of State and demanding "just 'find' me 11700 votes"
Know what makes fraud easier, attempting to stop the electoral vote count
Know what make fraud easier, trying to create a secondary bullshit second set of electors.

Republicans tried to do all of these yet the OP didn't give a damn. Fuck him

 

[trenchfoot]

In case anyone didn't realize it, mail in voting does not make fraud easier. Just look at the states that have been doing it for more then 10 years.

Other things that don't make fraud easier...
early no excuse voting
more polling places in densely populated areas
longer hours
Sunday voting

Yet Republicans have been trying to get of of or limit all of these.

Know what makes fraud easier, a President calling up a Sec of State and demanding "just 'find' me 11700 votes"
Know what makes fraud easier, attempting to stop the electoral vote count
Know what make fraud easier, trying to create a secondary bullshit second set of electors.

Republicans tried to do all of these yet the OP didn't give a damn. Fuck him

Totally agreed on all points bolded although I'd feel very very sorry for you if you went through the trouble of listing ALL of Trump's transgressions that he committed against the people of the nation seeing as if there were so many instances of it to the point of there being too many to mention.

How odd it is that while all of the numerous crimes and violations of norms, ethic and morals Trump piled up over his four year stint as Dictator-in-Chief clearly indicated he was unfit for office, they were, every one of them, either ignored or in some kind of twisted macabre fashion, transformed into reasons why he should be reelected. For example, his supporters say he "tells it like it is" when in fact what he was "telling it like it is" about were invariably lies, misinformation and empty easily debunked accusations about his enemies, most notably the media, of which he had absolutely no control over and of which drove him up the wall every time he was exposed for the incompetent moron he really is.

 

[Moonbeam]

The conservative brain needs only a single data point to come to any conclusion that helps soothe itself. An infinite number of data points is insufficient to sway it from its preconceived ideals.

Is it really just conservatives or that such thinking is wrong? Here in California, despite the fact that millions of people own guns and never use them violently, are not allowed to buy certain firearms that are perfectly legal in other states. Surely those laws are passed to make irrationally frightened people feel fractionally safer. How can the people of California who don't seem to have the slightest worry about voter fraud act the same as conservatives in other states and the folk in conservative states not give a fig about what kind of guns people buy? Isn't the issue that fear always produces irrational thinking? Put differently then, we might say, fear makes insanity look sane.

Edit: Written yesterday and failed to post.

 

[Lanyap]

So we have 3 people and 29 fraudulent votes. I used my Google fu and could not find anymore fraudulent 2020 voting incidents.

Senate-led investigation of Michigan's 2020 election uncovers no evidence of fraud

Any further investigation of theories alleging fraud, including those that looking at Antrim County would be "a complete waste of time" read the report, which found no evidence of fraud.

www.fox2detroit.com

Here is the Michigan senate report.

https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/20210623/SMPO_2020ElectionReport.pdf

 

[ivwshane]

So we have 3 people and 29 fraudulent votes. I used my Google fu and could not find anymore fraudulent 2020 voting incidents.

Senate-led investigation of Michigan's 2020 election uncovers no evidence of fraud

Any further investigation of theories alleging fraud, including those that looking at Antrim County would be "a complete waste of time" read the report, which found no evidence of fraud.

www.fox2detroit.com

Here is the Michigan senate report.

https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/20210623/SMPO_2020ElectionReport.pdf

I mean they aren’t wrong, it is less than 1%/eyeroll

 

[imported_tajmahal]

So the anti-fraud measures in place a the time worked as intended. Good to know. Your link doesn't work, either. This one does-

Michigan Officials Charge 3 People With Voter Fraud, Tell Trump Supporters To ‘Stop Spreading Lies’ Fraud Is Widespread

The secretary of state said the charges “send a clear message to those who promote deceitful claims about widespread fraud.”

www.forbes.com

It works for me, but it's a refreshing change that you're not lying and refusing to admit there's always a level of vote fraud and that constant vigilance is needed to prevent it from getting worse.

 

[uclaLabrat]

It works for me, but it's a refreshing change that you're not lying and refusing to admit there's always a level of vote fraud and that constant vigilance is needed to prevent it from getting worse.

Yes, there IS always a level of vote fraud and the level of vigilance that IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE is literally enough to catch all of it.

No need for draconian voter restrictions.

Additional ID requirements can go fuck themselves.

The process AS IT STANDS is robust. No need to bitch about fraud. As your evidence demonstrates.

 

[trenchfoot]

When any kind of law regarding voter's rights are exclusionary rather than being inclusive it's a sure bet they've been authored by a Repub in Congress, state governorships and state legislatures that they control.

There's simply no way around it other than to nitpick that simple truth with deceptive intent. The facts stand on their own that the Repubs have decided they cannot win elections based on their legislative record nor their agenda so they've decided that to win future elections, they're going to have to cripple and corrupt the proven intact and secure system of voting that oh my gosh golly coincidentally favors the majority of the nation that just happens to prefer Democrats leading the nation than Repub ones.

 

[dank69]

Is it really just conservatives or that such thinking is wrong? Here in California, despite the fact that millions of people own guns and never use them violently, are not allowed to buy certain firearms that are perfectly legal in other states. Surely those laws are passed to make irrationally frightened people feel fractionally safer. How can the people of California who don't seem to have the slightest worry about voter fraud act the same as conservatives in other states and the folk in conservative states not give a fig about what kind of guns people buy? Isn't the issue that fear always produces irrational thinking? Put differently then, we might say, fear makes insanity look sane.

Edit: Written yesterday and failed to post.

Because when one person commits voter fraud from time to time, nothing is affected, whether they get away with it or get caught. When someone with access to firearms goes berserk from time to time, people die, and catching them or killing them after the fact doesn't undo the damage.

 

[Moonbeam]

Because when one person commits voter fraud from time to time, nothing is affected, whether they get away with it or get caught. When someone with access to firearms goes berserk from time to time, people die, and catching them or killing them after the fact doesn't undo the damage.

Ha ha, of course! Voter fraud is turning the country into a socialist state so it figures you would want the citizenry disarmed.

The fact is you’re more worried you will be shot than you are an election will be stolen. You don’t care what damage you do to constitutional rights when fear affects you.

Have you any idea how much more fun it is to school without having to reload at most ten rounds or be exposed to the muzzle blast from the guy standing next to you at the range, or have to wear ear protective gear hallucinate that some gun things are scary? Fuck everybody else, I don’t like guns and I want to feel safe.

 

[Jhhnn]

It works for me, but it's a refreshing change that you're not lying and refusing to admit there's always a level of vote fraud and that constant vigilance is needed to prevent it from getting worse.

You poor thing. You know full well I've never taken that position. Voter fraud is a rare thing, and the numbers prove it. Only shills & the extremely gullible contend otherwise.

 

[dank69]

Ha ha, of course! Voter fraud is turning the country into a socialist state so it figures you would want the citizenry disarmed.

The fact is you’re more worried you will be shot than you are an election will be stolen. You don’t care what damage you do to constitutional rights when fear affects you.

Have you any idea how much more fun it is to school without having to reload at most ten rounds or be exposed to the muzzle blast from the guy standing next to you at the range, or have to wear ear protective gear hallucinate that some gun things are scary? Fuck everybody else, I don’t like guns and I want to feel safe.

Oh don't get me wrong, I love guns too. I'm obsessed with finding bigger and bigger caliber barrels, lubing them up until they glisten in the moonlight, and...well, I won't bore you with further details.