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Kyteland

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Originally posted by: chiwawa626
Yeah i heard this on the news...they were saying that Snowmen can only be called Snow-persons :p Finaly a peice of legislation i can agree with...damn those snowmen! damn them to hell!

Wouldn't they melt in hell? :confused:
 

0roo0roo

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actually schoolbooks are censored pc style all around the country. look it up.:p nothing new. since when have you read that the aztecs didn't have the wheel?
 

pg22

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Originally posted by: Marshallj
I'm telling you, this country is moving in the direction that I've been claiming it has for some time... it's becoming a breeding ground for limp wristed, oversensitive pansies. Where are the real men at?

Posting on Internet messageboards apparently...
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: Rilescat

PC is the biggest crap I have ever seen. Just plan BS. If I lived in California, I would be home schooling.

That's what my parents did. But California is about to make it a lot harder for parents to choose to homeschool, probably with the aim of making it illegal in the coming years.
 

AstIsis

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Sheesh....that smacked of Orwell's "1984"!
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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Marshallj
The hippy liberal west coast is probably the most bass ackwards place in this nation.

And what's with this:

And if you think grandpa is a senior citizen, guess what? You?re wrong. That?s demeaning, according to the new standards. He is now simply an "older person."

I think "senior citizen" sounds a lot more grand than "older person"... that's so generic and dull.


I'm telling you, this country is moving in the direction that I've been claiming it has for some time... it's becoming a breeding ground for limp wristed, oversensitive pansies. Where are the real men at?
Right here bitch in Merced Ca.
Who cares what they teach the little bastards these days, they are nothing but a bunch of entitled spoiled little Monkees anyway..just like most of the Monkees who post here

 

Kadarin

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I wonder if they will go so far as to edit direct quotes, such as ones that may contain words they intend to not use, like "devil"? Some I've heard for a long time, like "Framers".
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: Hatari Chic


That's what my parents did. But California is about to make it a lot harder for parents to choose to homeschool, probably with the aim of making it illegal in the coming years.

Home schooling should be illegal. Home educated people are like the ones in that town in Footloose before Kevin Bacon taught them how to dance.
 

Sundog

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Originally posted by: jaeger66
Home schooling should be illegal.

Why, because you don't agree with it. If it were up to you, you would shove your narrow minded views down everbody else throat. What is you reasoning and please provide scientific proof! :frown:
 
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well theses are the PC retards that don't blame the terrorists for flying planes into the WTC, to them The WTC was in the terrorists way.
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: Sundog


Why, because you don't agree with it. If it were up to you, you would shove your narrow minded views down everbody else throat. What is you reasoning and please provide scientific proof! :frown:

What kind of future does a kid who graduated from Mom's living room have in the real world? Public school, ghastly as it is in this country, at least will acclimate kids to the way life works. Competition, working in groups, social interaction, and a reasonable shot at higher education.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
well theses are the PC retards that don't blame the terrorists for flying planes into the WTC, to them The WTC was in the terrorists way.
You post nonsense like that and then expect people to take what you have to say seriously? Obviously the education system that produced you leaves a lot to be desired. Of course it is your right as an American to be a Moron.

 

Sundog

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Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Sundog


Why, because you don't agree with it. If it were up to you, you would shove your narrow minded views down everbody else throat. What is you reasoning and please provide scientific proof! :frown:

What kind of future does a kid who graduated from Mom's living room have in the real world? Public school, ghastly as it is in this country, at least will acclimate kids to the way life works. Competition, working in groups, social interaction, and a reasonable shot at higher education.

That is no proof.

And what chance does a kid have in a real college if he/she goes to a public school that has such low standards(too many students per class, constant fear of harm, sub-standard education)??????

Education wise home schooled kids would seem to have an advantage. Social skills would be at a disadvantage......

Big freak'in whoop to be at a social disadvantage...look at where you are posting. Most of the people here are socially inept and spend wayyyyy too much time on their computers.
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: Sundog
Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Hatari Chic
Home schooling should be illegal.

Why, because you don't agree with it. If it were up to you, you would shove your narrow minded views down everbody else throat. What is you reasoning and please provide scientific proof! :frown:

Whoa now, watch who you're quoting, I definitely didn't say that. :)

And jaeger66, take your uneducated opinions and shove it, please. I'm homeschooled, graduating from college at the age of 19 with a double major in English and Communications and a 3.8 GPA. I'm hardly the exception to the rule. Homeschoolers by and large tend to excell over their peers academically. Socially, I'm well adjusted (no thanks to school, during which I developed a social phobia that took me a long time to overcome). Homeschoolers, admittedly, may have a little more trouble relating to their peers than your average public schooled kid - but that's because they often relate on a higher level and find the conversation, status jockeying, and age-segregated system to not fulfill their social abilities. You know what? REAL LIFE isn't age segregated. Nor does it usually take the shape of public school socialization.

The majority of homeschoolers I know surpass regular students in their success and in their ability to cope with the real world. Statistics back me up. Who's at the head of spelling bees in the US? Who wins math competitions? Debates? Do your research first (or maybe that's something that homeschoolers learn to do and public school students don't) and then come back and talk.
 

SuperTool

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It's called free enterprize system. Just like rednecks have a right to not buy Dixie Chicks CD's because they don't like what they say, CA schools have a right not to buy books because of what they say.
This thing cuts both ways.
 

Sundog

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Originally posted by: Hatari Chic
Originally posted by: Sundog
Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Hatari Chic
Home schooling should be illegal.

Why, because you don't agree with it. If it were up to you, you would shove your narrow minded views down everbody else throat. What is you reasoning and please provide scientific proof! :frown:

Whoa now, watch who you're quoting, I definitely didn't say that. :)

And jaeger66, take your uneducated opinions and shove it, please. I'm homeschooled, graduating from college at the age of 19 with a double major in English and Communications and a 3.8 GPA. I'm hardly the exception to the rule. Homeschoolers by and large tend to excell over their peers academically. Socially, I'm well adjusted (no thanks to school, during which I developed a social phobia that took me a long time to overcome). Homeschoolers, admittedly, may have a little more trouble relating to their peers than your average public schooled kid - but that's because they often relate on a higher level and find the conversation, status jockeying, and age-segregated system to not fulfill their social abilities. You know what? REAL LIFE isn't age segregated. Nor does it usually take the shape of public school socialization.

The majority of homeschoolers I know surpass regular students in their success and in their ability to cope with the real world. Statistics back me up. Who's at the head of spelling bees in the US? Who wins math competitions? Debates? Do your research first (or maybe that's something that homeschoolers learn to do and public school students don't) and then come back and talk.


Yep, I edited my quote.

And this is my point, almost everyone that I have met that has been home schooled has been ahead of their respective age group.
 

michaelh20

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You guys were assuming that the books were that great to begin with, which really they aren't. By the time the authors finish digesting and compacting the information, it usually becomes completely useless. Sure text substituting pc words really won't improve books, but how good were they to begin with?
 

Red Dawn

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Hell the stuff you learn in Grammar School and High School is just to prepare you for College where the Liberal Professors will take the mush the kids have for minds and really mess them up
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: Hatari Chic


And jaeger66, take your uneducated opinions and shove it, please. I'm homeschooled, graduating from college at the age of 19 with a double major in English and Communications and a 3.8 GPA. I'm hardly the exception to the rule. Homeschoolers by and large tend to excell over their peers academically. Socially, I'm well adjusted (no thanks to school, during which I developed a social phobia that took me a long time to overcome). Homeschoolers, admittedly, may have a little more trouble relating to their peers than your average public schooled kid - but that's because they often relate on a higher level and find the conversation, status jockeying, and age-segregated system to not fulfill their social abilities. You know what? REAL LIFE isn't age segregated. Nor does it usually take the shape of public school socialization.

The majority of homeschoolers I know surpass regular students in their success and in their ability to cope with the real world. Statistics back me up. Who's at the head of spelling bees in the US? Who wins math competitions? Debates? Do your research first (or maybe that's something that homeschoolers learn to do and public school students don't) and then come back and talk.

That's OK, sweety. You know as well as I do that there is no hard data on this. The one major study that was done was funded by the Home School Legal Defense Fund, and is so full of disclaimers that I wonder why they even bothered. I live in one of the hotspots of homeschooling and what I've seen isn't pretty. Oh sure, these guys can factor an equation but something is missing. Ability to deal with adversity it seems...there is definitely something to be said for being tempered by hard reality. The people I'm thinking of have absolutely no ability to suck it up when things go to hell, or deal with psychological pressure. All of that might be OK in some cases, but the issue that nobody has seemed to address is how these kids perform AFTER they get out of the house.
 

Kadarin

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Some possible disadvantages with home schooling:

Lack of peer-level group social interation.
Lack of oversight.
Lack of standardized curriculum.

Advantages:

Student can learn at own pace.
Student may have opportunity to learn material that is not in standard curriculum.

I don't know enough about the subject to draw meaningful conclusions about whether it's acceptable or not. My fear is that religious fundies and others who object to tolerance and secularism will raise kids who are themselves fruitloops.
 

Dragnov

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Here's snippets of the Texas way of "political correctness".

"Texas has a rising number of mixed-race families, for instance, but does not allow pictures of mixed race couples in books."

"Recently, the college history text ?Out of Many,? which is widely used in colleges, was withdrawn from consideration as a high school book because conservative groups and Board of Education members objected to two paragraphs that say prostitution was widespread in cattle towns in the late 19th century. The objection was raised on the grounds that there is some doubt as to whether the paragraphs are wholly true, but the protesters also disliked the portrayal of Texas."

Oh and heres Mississipi.

"The impetus for the study was a freshman social science seminar at Tougaloo College, Miss., Loewen's first teaching assignment. Loewen questioned students at the start of the course to see what they knew. Answering a basic question about Reconstruction, sixteen of his seventeen students viewed it as ?the period after the Civil War when blacks controlled the government, screwed up, and the whites took over.?"

Nice.
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Your redneck blind eye is ammusing. Texas has its on board that reviews textbooks doing the same exact thing.
 

KDOG

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I think I will adopt a new policy to be an "equal opportunity offender" I will try to offend all races/groups/classes/ etc with equal frequency. If I have not offended you or your group/class yet today then i apologize - give me time


Ah yessss!! A knew quote to for me to spew forth, good one Scoob!!!




And jaeger66, take your uneducated opinions and shove it, please. I'm homeschooled, graduating from college at the age of 19 with a double major in English and Communications and a 3.8 GPA. I'm hardly the exception to the rule. Homeschoolers by and large tend to excell over their peers academically. Socially, I'm well adjusted (no thanks to school, during which I developed a social phobia that took me a long time to overcome). Homeschoolers, admittedly, may have a little more trouble relating to their peers than your average public schooled kid - but that's because they often relate on a higher level and find the conversation, status jockeying, and age-segregated system to not fulfill their social abilities. You know what? REAL LIFE isn't age segregated. Nor does it usually take the shape of public school socialization.

The majority of homeschoolers I know surpass regular students in their success and in their ability to cope with the real world. Statistics back me up. Who's at the head of spelling bees in the US? Who wins math competitions? Debates? Do your research first (or maybe that's something that homeschoolers learn to do and public school students don't) and then come back and talk.

Exactly. In South Jersey here there is LARGE home schooling population here. And the home schooled kids usually run RINGS around the public schoolers....jaeger, shut up - youre wrong period....