More BS from the movie studios.

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Muse

Lifer
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With all the effort and money that they put in, it's amazing how they still haven't figured out how to make the warnings come up only on the pirated versions instead of the originals.

Losers.
If they'd figured that out they would have had a direct message sent to the FBI. Oh, now I'm getting paranoid... :eek:
 

smitbret

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Jul 27, 2006
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I figure I'd need several terrabytes to accommodate all my DVDs, and my BD collection is just starting. I may do this, however. I've read a lot of posts by people who evidently do this routinely. I guess my new Sony S390 BD player (when it arrives) will be capable of pulling the streams off my server.

Edit: Judging from the posts here, Sony is the enemy. Will I regret my Sony BD player??? :confused: At least it's got good file support. The Panasonics don't.

Sony is behind most of the notorious copy protection schemes out there (Arccos, Cinavia) and the Notorious CD rootkit scandal (see MediaMax CD-3) where simply putting the CD in your PC installed a rootkit/virus on your computer that literally opened up your PC to exploits from malware.

Keep in mind, none of this has dented piracy and only made it more difficult for honest people to use their purchased media.

Your Sony BR player will probably work fine like my PS3 did until one day I tried to stream the movie Salt from my BR rip on my PC to my TV upstairs and discovered that the sound was automatically muted after 8 minutes and a warning screen popped up saying I was watching it illegally. Sony just kind of slipped the scheme into the latest firmware update, didn't tell anyone and made it impossible to roll the firmware back. The goal is for all future BR players and discs to have this copy protection implemented in the future.

Finally got around to replacing it with a WD Live Hub and couldn't be happier. I'm just fed up and I will be doing my best to make sure Sony never sees a dime from me in the future.
 

Howard

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
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Sony is behind most of the notorious copy protection schemes out there (Arccos, Cinavia) and the Notorious CD rootkit scandal (see MediaMax CD-3) where simply putting the CD in your PC installed a rootkit/virus on your computer that literally opened up your PC to exploits from malware.

Keep in mind, none of this has dented piracy and only made it more difficult for honest people to use their purchased media.

Your Sony BR player will probably work fine like my PS3 did until one day I tried to stream the movie Salt from my BR rip on my PC to my TV upstairs and discovered that the sound was automatically muted after 8 minutes and a warning screen popped up saying I was watching it illegally. Sony just kind of slipped the scheme into the latest firmware update, didn't tell anyone and made it impossible to roll the firmware back. The goal is for all future BR players and discs to have this copy protection implemented in the future.

Finally got around to replacing it with a WD Live Hub and couldn't be happier. I'm just fed up and I will be doing my best to make sure Sony never sees a dime from me in the future.
Did you try PS3 Media Server?
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Sony is behind most of the notorious copy protection schemes out there (Arccos, Cinavia) and the Notorious CD rootkit scandal (see MediaMax CD-3) where simply putting the CD in your PC installed a rootkit/virus on your computer that literally opened up your PC to exploits from malware.

Keep in mind, none of this has dented piracy and only made it more difficult for honest people to use their purchased media.

Your Sony BR player will probably work fine like my PS3 did until one day I tried to stream the movie Salt from my BR rip on my PC to my TV upstairs and discovered that the sound was automatically muted after 8 minutes and a warning screen popped up saying I was watching it illegally. Sony just kind of slipped the scheme into the latest firmware update, didn't tell anyone and made it impossible to roll the firmware back. The goal is for all future BR players and discs to have this copy protection implemented in the future.

Finally got around to replacing it with a WD Live Hub and couldn't be happier. I'm just fed up and I will be doing my best to make sure Sony never sees a dime from me in the future.

Yep, that's Cinavia in fully effect. Did you convert the BD to MKV, or was it a straight BD rip to folder?
 

MagickMan

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Aug 11, 2008
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What's the advantage? Can it go straight to a movie? Can you choose a default subtitle stream and turn it on/off super easy? If I rip all my disks I will rip only English subtitles.

You can go straight to the main menu and bypass all the stupid crap. It ignores copy protection and region coding.
 

smitbret

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Jul 27, 2006
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Yep, that's Cinavia in fully effect. Did you convert the BD to MKV, or was it a straight BD rip to folder?

It was a straight rip to the HDD. I knew exactly what it was about 10 minutes later after I looked it up. I've been waiting for the guys at SlySoft to break it for about a year now, but I still haven't seen anything and when it was announced that all new BR players had to be Cinavia-certified after February 2012, I just threw in the towel and said "No more Sony". I'd have switched it out a couple of months sooner, but I couldn't decide on which streaming box to get.
 

smitbret

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Jul 27, 2006
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Did you try PS3 Media Server?

The front-end DLNA software won't make a shred of difference. The Cinavia protection is embedded in the audio track. Personally, I found PS3 Media Server a little sluggish when working with large media libraries and prefer Mezzmo.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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It was a straight rip to the HDD. I knew exactly what it was about 10 minutes later after I looked it up. I've been waiting for the guys at SlySoft to break it for about a year now, but I still haven't seen anything and when it was announced that all new BR players had to be Cinavia-certified after February 2012, I just threw in the towel and said "No more Sony". I'd have switched it out a couple of months sooner, but I couldn't decide on which streaming box to get.

Not really sure SlySoft is going to have a fix for this one since it's technically not the encryption that's the problem. SlySoft still doesn't have a workaround for it, but DVDFab does. ;)
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Not really sure SlySoft is going to have a fix for this one since it's technically not the encryption that's the problem. SlySoft still doesn't have a workaround for it, but DVDFab does. ;)

transcode to dd5.1 should do it no?
 

smitbret

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Jul 27, 2006
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Slysoft has said that when they issue a fix it won't be with AnyDVD because it's a structural issue that's physically in the audio stream. When they correct it, it'll be with Clone BD. For that same reason, converting to DD 5.1 won't fix it, either. DVDFab's fix was only good if you burnt the file back to an AVCHD and played it back that way. Won't work for streaming and from what I understand,the loophole they took advantage of has been closed anyway.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Slysoft has said that when they issue a fix it won't be with AnyDVD because it's a structural issue that's physically in the audio stream. When they correct it, it'll be with Clone BD. For that same reason, converting to DD 5.1 won't fix it, either. DVDFab's fix was only good if you burnt the file back to an AVCHD and played it back that way. Won't work for streaming and from what I understand,the loophole they took advantage of has been closed anyway.

Man, that sucks. Hopefully SlySoft will come up with something.
 

Kristijonas

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Jun 11, 2011
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slightly off-topic social engineering comment: One day I hope that in our society ALL media will be free, and developers, producers will receive money by donations from people who liked their products. People would become used to such reactions after a movie/game/music: "wow this movie is awesome, I will transfer 40$ right away tu support them and/or their message!" or "This shit is terrible and I' glad I didn't pay for it and I hope they go bankrupt and no longer litter the planet with stuff like this" or "I think this has potentional, I might spend 5-15$ because it was not that bad".

This would also encourage rich people to consciously support medias "Definitely a good movie, sending 100$ because I want them good" and would allow poor to access the "common pool of medias" even if all they can afford is 10$ for a movie they really adored.
Would it work? No idea.
 
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mmntech

Lifer
Sep 20, 2007
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Put up with the trailers and warnings, buy DRM riddled and lower quality digital copies, or pirate. Hollywood doesn't exactly make their products user friendly. It's a big part of why DVD will probably remain the dominant disc format for awhile. Just easier to archive it and play it back.