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OCGuy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ayabe

So you fully support the prosecution of telecomm companies, CIA agents/contractors who tortured detainees, and fully support the defunding and prosecution of all companies caught war-profiteering.

Ok got it.

Obama doesnt, why should he?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ayabe

So you fully support the prosecution of telecomm companies, CIA agents/contractors who tortured detainees, and fully support the defunding and prosecution of all companies caught war-profiteering.

Ok got it.

Obama doesnt, why should he?

That doesn't excuse it or make it anymore right. It's just another front in the battle to save our Constitutional rights.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

If healthcare is needed NOW, why is it going to take 4 years to implement. OBAMA AND PELOSI ARE TRAITORS.

Please post links proving that Obama and Pelosi have committed acts that consitute the crime of treason. Please include further links to statutory citations and credible legal authorities to support your claims.

If you cannot, you are a liar, and your post constitutes libel.

I've yet to be contacted by Obama's attorneys.

You also have yet to make contact with reality. Even worse, as often as you've posted that Obama is a traitor, you have yet to post any links proving that Obama has committed acts that consitute the crime of treason or to statutory citations and credible legal authorities to support your claims.

You obviously mock my posts that your thankfully EX-Traitor In Chief, George W. Bush and his criminal cabal of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers and general incompetents actually committed the crimes I've listed. I have posted many supporting links defining what they have done and citing applicable statutes and legal authorities supporting my statements. You know I have them stored as text files. You and other lying right wingnuts even have a name for them. You refer to them as my "macros," and I can easily post them again at will.

If you want to call out Obama or Pelosi as having committed the capital felony of treason, you owe it to us to post similarly strong support for your accusations. If you can't, you're obviously so full of shit your ass is jealous.

Of course, the chances of someone's post on Anandtech about Obama being proven to have caused damage to his character, cause emotional distress, or loss of money is quite slim. If my post is that powerful against the Presiden then he is much weaker than most of us currently perceive him as.

The act, itself is the crime, regardless of any damage to their reputations. Libel can be a civil or criminal offense. Damages only apply to the size of any remedy resulting from a civil court proceeding.

Of course, they've yet to prosecute GWB for his traitorous activities either.. Refusing to investigate and prosecute a traitor can only be interpreted as treason. He is purposely ignoring the damage done to our country by GWB for his own personal power grab.

Irrelevant, and it's not over... at least, yet.

Unlike you Harvey, I hate all people that do damage to our country.. not just ones of a particular political party. You sir are are worse than a sub-human POS.

Hmmm... "Sub-human piece of shit" is an interesting reference. I've only used it to refer to those who have posted to support and condone the crimes committed torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity by your EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal gang.

Don't even try to deny it. Bush, Cheney and others from their criminal cabal have publicly admitted they ordered, authorized and condoned torture. :|

But since YOU brought it up, YOU actually ARE one of those sub-human pieces of shit who HAS posted to support the commission of those horrific violations of U.S. and international law that disgraced the honor, the integrity, the credibility and the very name of the United States of America. :(

Way to go, jackass! :thumbsdown: :|

You really have no clue whats going on do you?
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ayabe

So you fully support the prosecution of telecomm companies, CIA agents/contractors who tortured detainees, and fully support the defunding and prosecution of all companies caught war-profiteering.

Ok got it.

Obama doesnt, why should he?

That doesn't excuse it or make it anymore right. It's just another front in the battle to save our Constitutional rights.

Well.. you should be more honest. The battle to save the constitutional rights YOU support.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: Harvey

That doesn't excuse it or make it anymore right. It's just another front in the battle to save our Constitutional rights.

So if the leader of the party you claim to be a part of does not feel as strongly about these things as you do, are you really a part of that party?

Shouldnt you be in a more left-leaning party than US Democrats?

Obama is pretty much center-left. I think you should be supporting someone else.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ayabe

So you fully support the prosecution of telecomm companies, CIA agents/contractors who tortured detainees, and fully support the defunding and prosecution of all companies caught war-profiteering.

Ok got it.

Obama doesnt, why should he?

That doesn't excuse it or make it anymore right. It's just another front in the battle to save our Constitutional rights.

Well.. you should be more honest. The battle to save the constitutional rights YOU support.

So says the sub-human piece of shit who has repeatedly posted to support those who dishonored and disgraced the United States of America, both to our own people and to the world, by committing horrific crimes including torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity. :roll:
 

shrumpage

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

If healthcare is needed NOW, why is it going to take 4 years to implement. OBAMA AND PELOSI ARE TRAITORS.

Please post links proving that Obama and Pelosi have committed acts that consitute the crime of treason. Please include further links to statutory citations and credible legal authorities to support your claims.

If you cannot, you are a liar, and your post constitutes libel.

Obama lied on national TV, definately a Treasonous act:

trea·son (tre'z?n)
n.

1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.


Plus with his willingness to help silence free speech around the world, with that UN resolution - that goes right against the First Amendment, which is located in the Constitution.

What oath does the President take?

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

He is supporting world wide resolutions that run in direct conflict with our Bill of Rights. How is that not a violation of his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?
 

Fear No Evil

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Nov 14, 2008
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ayabe

So you fully support the prosecution of telecomm companies, CIA agents/contractors who tortured detainees, and fully support the defunding and prosecution of all companies caught war-profiteering.

Ok got it.

Obama doesnt, why should he?

That doesn't excuse it or make it anymore right. It's just another front in the battle to save our Constitutional rights.

Well.. you should be more honest. The battle to save the constitutional rights YOU support.

So says the sub-human piece of shit who has repeatedly posted to support those who dishonored and disgraced the United States of America, both to our own people and to the world, by committing horrific crimes including torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity. :roll:


LOL. I should probably be tried for treason then should I not?
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Well.. you should be more honest. The battle to save the constitutional rights YOU support.

what rights do you think democrats don't support?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ayabe

So you fully support the prosecution of telecomm companies, CIA agents/contractors who tortured detainees, and fully support the defunding and prosecution of all companies caught war-profiteering.

Ok got it.

Obama doesnt, why should he?

That doesn't excuse it or make it anymore right. It's just another front in the battle to save our Constitutional rights.

Well.. you should be more honest. The battle to save the constitutional rights YOU support.

So says the sub-human piece of shit who has repeatedly posted to support those who dishonored and disgraced the United States of America, both to our own people and to the world, by committing horrific crimes including torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity. :roll:

Good to see Harvey mellowing in his advanced years:shocked:
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Well.. you should be more honest. The battle to save the constitutional rights YOU support.

what rights do you think democrats don't support?

I wasn't referring to democrats but Harvey in particular. I'll let him tell us which ones he doesn't support. He's probably got a Macro for it. He's like Apple except he doesn't have an app for that, he has a macro for that!
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Well.. you should be more honest. The battle to save the constitutional rights YOU support.

what rights do you think democrats don't support?

I wasn't referring to democrats but Harvey in particular. I'll let him tell us which ones he doesn't support. He's probably got a Macro for it. He's like Apple except he doesn't have an app for that, he has a macro for that!

ok. but do you know the rights he doesn't support? and if so just please tell them to us?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

If healthcare is needed NOW, why is it going to take 4 years to implement. OBAMA AND PELOSI ARE TRAITORS.

Please post links proving that Obama and Pelosi have committed acts that consitute the crime of treason. Please include further links to statutory citations and credible legal authorities to support your claims.

If you cannot, you are a liar, and your post constitutes libel.

Obama lied on national TV, definately a Treasonous act:

trea·son (tre'z?n)
n.

1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Saying we need to pass health care reform, now, does not mean it can all be implemented at once. The statement is true. We have tens of millios of people with no health care, whatsoever, and more with inadequate coverage. American citizens are dying, daily, while the insurance execs are living high off their mega-buck salaries, bonuses and golden parachutes. They have no motivation to help us because they only grow richer by denying coverage, even to those who have already paid for it.

1. Please define the lies you believe he has told.

2. Assuming you can, since he promised he would try to get Congress to pass meaningful health care reform legislation, please explain how trying to do so constitutes a "violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies" or "a betrayal of trust or confidence."

Plus with his willingness to help silence free speech around the world, with that UN resolution - that goes right against the First Amendment, which is located in the Constitution.

What oath does the President take?

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

He is supporting world wide resolutions that run in direct conflict with our Bill of Rights. How is that not a violation of his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?

Bullshit! Freedom of speech is not absolute, and not all speech is not protected by the Constitution and the laws of the United States. Libel and slander are not protected. Neither is speech calculated, intended or likely to incite panic or violence against others.

One example of "a violation of his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" would be authorizing unwarranted domestic spying on the private communications of all American citizens.

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

LOL. I should probably be tried for treason then should I not?

I don't know. Posting on a forum to support the Bushwhackos crimes isn't committing those acts nor could it even seriously be considered to be inciting others to commit them. Have you committed any acts that would constitute treason or any other felony? :confused:

If so, you'll get a quicker response if you post it at the Department of Justice Action Center. Try it! :light:

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

what rights do you think democrats don't support?

I wasn't referring to democrats but Harvey in particular. I'll let him tell us which ones he doesn't support.

You will??? How nice of you to allow me to speak for myself. :cool:

Since you said you want me to say which Constitutional rights I support, that means you'll believe me when I say I support the entire Constitution.
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Which is more than you've ever been willing to support. :roll:
 

Fear No Evil

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Nov 14, 2008
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

If healthcare is needed NOW, why is it going to take 4 years to implement. OBAMA AND PELOSI ARE TRAITORS.

Please post links proving that Obama and Pelosi have committed acts that consitute the crime of treason. Please include further links to statutory citations and credible legal authorities to support your claims.

If you cannot, you are a liar, and your post constitutes libel.

Obama lied on national TV, definately a Treasonous act:

trea·son (tre'z?n)
n.

1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Saying we need to pass health care reform, now, does not mean it can all be implemented at once. The statement is true. We have tens of millios of people with no health care, whatsoever, and more with inadequate coverage. American citizens are dying, daily, while the insurance execs are living high off their mega-buck salaries, bonuses and golden parachutes. They have no motivation to help us because they only grow richer by denying coverage, even to those who have already paid for it.

1. Please define the lies you believe he has told.

2. Assuming you can, since he promised he would try to get Congress to pass meaningful health care reform legislation, please explain how trying to do so constitutes a "violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies" or "a betrayal of trust or confidence."

Plus with his willingness to help silence free speech around the world, with that UN resolution - that goes right against the First Amendment, which is located in the Constitution.

What oath does the President take?

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

He is supporting world wide resolutions that run in direct conflict with our Bill of Rights. How is that not a violation of his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?

Bullshit! Freedom of speech is not absolute, and not all speech is not protected by the Constitution and the laws of the United States. Libel and slander are not protected. Neither is speech calculated, intended or likely to incite panic or violence against others.

One example of "a violation of his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" would be authorizing unwarranted domestic spying on the private communications of all American citizens.

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

LOL. I should probably be tried for treason then should I not?

I don't know. Posting on a forum to support the Bushwhackos crimes isn't committing those acts nor could it even seriously be considered to be inciting others to commit them. Have you committed any acts that would constitute treason or any other felony? :confused:

If so, you'll get a quicker response if you post it at the Department of Justice Action Center. Try it! :light:

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

what rights do you think democrats don't support?

I wasn't referring to democrats but Harvey in particular. I'll let him tell us which ones he doesn't support.

You will??? How nice of you to allow me to speak for myself. :cool:

Since you said you want me to say which Constitutional rights I support, that means you'll believe me when I say I support the entire Constitution.
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Which is more than you've ever been willing to support. :roll:

Right.. You wipe your ass with the ENTIRE Constitution... I guess that is technically 'support' depending on your definition.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Harvey

You will??? How nice of you to allow me to speak for myself. :cool:

Since you said you want me to say which Constitutional rights I support, that means you'll believe me when I say I support the entire Constitution.
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Which is more than you've ever been willing to support. :roll:

If you support some form of "fairness doctrine," you dont support the 1st.

If you are in favor of local gun bans such as in Chicago, or the one that was overturned in DC, or the AWB that sunset recently, you dont support the 2nd.

How are we doing with the first two in the BoR?


Edit: And if you dont support the 21st, move to the ME.
 

Harvey

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

what rights do you think democrats don't support?

I wasn't referring to democrats but Harvey in particular. I'll let him tell us which ones he doesn't support.

You will??? How nice of you to allow me to speak for myself. :cool:

Since you said you want me to say which Constitutional rights I support, that means you'll believe me when I say I support the entire Constitution.
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Which is more than you've ever been willing to support. :roll:[/quote]

Right.. You wipe your ass with the ENTIRE Constitution... I guess that is technically 'support' depending on your definition.

But... but... but... YOU said you'd let me say which Constitutional rights I support. Now, you're saying you won't accept my statement that I support the entire Constitution.

YOU set the conditions. YOU don't get to redefine the answer you said you would allow me to post. :thumbsdown:

Oh well.. Thanks for yet more proof that you're incapable of anything but lies. :laugh:

Originally posted by: OCguy

If you support some form of "fairness doctrine," you dont support the 1st.

If you are in favor of local gun bans such as in Chicago, or the one that was overturned in DC, or the AWB that sunset recently, you dont support the 2nd.

How are we doing with the first two in the BoR?

Bullshit! I don't have to agree with you on any of those issues to support the Constitution. I've never posted my views on the "fairness doctrine," I have some serious problems with the the gun traffic at local gun shows, and personally, and I have grave reservations about the sales of assault weapons.

That said, I support the Constitution which provides that the Supreme Court is the final arbiter of such decisions, and I abide by the laws of our nation as they determine them to be.
 

shrumpage

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Mar 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

If healthcare is needed NOW, why is it going to take 4 years to implement. OBAMA AND PELOSI ARE TRAITORS.

Please post links proving that Obama and Pelosi have committed acts that consitute the crime of treason. Please include further links to statutory citations and credible legal authorities to support your claims.

If you cannot, you are a liar, and your post constitutes libel.

Obama lied on national TV, definately a Treasonous act:

trea·son (tre'z?n)
n.

1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Saying we need to pass health care reform, now, does not mean it can all be implemented at once. The statement is true. We have tens of millios of people with no health care, whatsoever, and more with inadequate coverage. American citizens are dying, daily, while the insurance execs are living high off their mega-buck salaries, bonuses and golden parachutes. They have no motivation to help us because they only grow richer by denying coverage, even to those who have already paid for it.

1. Please define the lies you believe he has told.

2. Assuming you can, since he promised he would try to get Congress to pass meaningful health care reform legislation, please explain how trying to do so constitutes a "violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies" or "a betrayal of trust or confidence."

He told a story about a man who died because he was denied treatment by his insurance company. This is false, the patience sister testified before congress, and said he had lived for another three years after he received treatment.

He made a false statement on national television, so he can pass his legislation.

Plus with his willingness to help silence free speech around the world, with that UN resolution - that goes right against the First Amendment, which is located in the Constitution.

What oath does the President take?

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

He is supporting world wide resolutions that run in direct conflict with our Bill of Rights. How is that not a violation of his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?

Bullshit! Freedom of speech is not absolute, and not all speech is not protected by the Constitution and the laws of the United States. Libel and slander are not protected. Neither is speech calculated, intended or likely to incite panic or violence against others.

One example of "a violation of his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" would be authorizing unwarranted domestic spying on the private communications of all American citizens.

Criticizing, making fun of, calling a religion anything you want is not the same of as yelling "fire" in a theater. The government should not be regulating peoples opinion's that are critical of religion and religious people.

But that is what Obama supported through he UN resolution, an out right attack on free speech. Which is protected in our Constitution - something he swore to protect.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Right.. You wipe your ass with the ENTIRE Constitution... I guess that is technically 'support' depending on your definition.

how about you answer the question.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Right.. You wipe your ass with the ENTIRE Constitution... I guess that is technically 'support' depending on your definition.

how about you answer the question.

I think Harvey supports the quartering of troops in private homes.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Right.. You wipe your ass with the ENTIRE Constitution... I guess that is technically 'support' depending on your definition.

how about you answer the question.

I think Harvey supports the quartering of troops in private homes.

so in reality you actually dont really think he is against the constitution.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I think Harvey supports the quartering of troops in private homes.

Is that the best you can manage? Pathetic! BuahahaHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :laugh:

But you may have a point... if you count offering to let JOS crash at my place if he visits L.A. But hey! He offered to buy the margaritas. :cool:

Then, there's the matter of your failure to post links proving your statement that Obama and Pelosi have committed acts that consitute the crime of treason including links to statutory citations and credible legal authorities to support your claims.

If you cannot, you are a liar.
 

Fear No Evil

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Nov 14, 2008
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I think Harvey supports the quartering of troops in private homes.

Is that the best you can manage? Pathetic! BuahahaHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :laugh:

But you may have a point... if you count offering to let JOS crash at my place if he visits L.A. But hey! He offered to buy the margaritas. :cool:

Margaritas? That really explains a lot.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Margaritas? That really explains a lot.

Fear No Evil? He really explains nothing. :laugh:

Strangely enough, nothing really explains him, either. :p