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More big government BS...it's for our own good

The city has not made clear how it will enforce the law, but the police are in possession of all registrants’ home addresses so confiscation and arrests would be simple.
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And this is why pro-gun individual always (rightfully) protest against gun registration.
 
Lets see the people who support this shit react if they require a 48 dollar registration fee and a legal ID to vote.
 
berzerker60 said:
Isn't local government supposed to be able to decide to do things like this? How is that "big government"?
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It's only big government when it's something you don't like. When it's something you like, such as abortion restrictions, then it's states' rights or local government rights.
 
berzerker60 said:
Isn't local government supposed to be able to decide to do things like this? How is that "big government"?
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Just because it is local doesnt mean it isnt big govt. Big govt is a phrase used to define an overbearing abusive govt. Anyways DC is under the jurisdiction of congress.
 
Genx87 said:
Just because it is local doesnt mean it isnt big govt. Big govt is a phrase used to define an overbearing abusive govt. Anyways DC is under the jurisdiction of congress.
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Congress can override the DC Council, but the local government makes the vast majority of decisions for the city.

So you agree that local government isn't inherently any better than state or national government? Or is there some way that this issue is different from the others where we hear wailing and gnashing of teeth over how much better things would be if we left everything to local government?
 
bradly1101 said:
Australia has had great success with stricter gun laws and a buyback program that has led to decreased homicides and suicides.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/08/02/did-gun-control-work-in-australia/
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One must always pay attention, because the gun grabbers love to twist language to make their points seem poignant. So, Austraila bans guns, and the number of GUN homicides goes down. Duh. But get a report on overall homicides and a startling trend emerges. I dont know that it is true in Australia, but I know that the overall violent crime rate (murders, rapes, robberies, all still happen with knives and clubs) in the UK is up since they banned guns, but the anti-gunners keep pointing to the gun murder rate and say 'look how much it dropped!'.

The bottom line is a gun is only a tool. Criminals will commit criminal acts with any tool they can get a hold of. The best deterrent is an armed and capable population.
 
berzerker60 said:
Congress can override the DC Council, but the local government makes the vast majority of decisions for the city.

So you agree that local government isn't inherently any better than state or national government? Or is there some way that this issue is different from the others where we hear wailing and gnashing of teeth over how much better things would be if we left everything to local government?
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The sad fact is the lemmings in DC have voted for control freaks, so they are going to get a control freak local government. While those of us who do not live there may not like it, we dont really have any say in it.

But it does illustrate why local control is best. If the residents of DC decide these requirements are too onerous, they will vote in a council that respects their individual sovereignty.
 
berzerker60 said:
Congress can override the DC Council, but the local government makes the vast majority of decisions for the city.

So you agree that local government isn't inherently any better than state or national government? Or is there some way that this issue is different from the others where we hear wailing and gnashing of teeth over how much better things would be if we left everything to local government?
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Of course local isnt better if they are going to abuse their power.
 
BUnit1701 said:
The sad fact is the lemmings in DC have voted for control freaks, so they are going to get a control freak local government. While those of us who do not live there may not like it, we dont really have any say in it.

But it does illustrate why local control is best. If the residents of DC decide these requirements are too onerous, they will vote in a council that respects their individual sovereignty.
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From time to time, DC also serves as a testing ground to see what the Feds may and may not get away with. So, in an ultimate sense, this little escapade could indeed have longer reach than it appears.
 
berzerker60 said:
Congress can override the DC Council, but the local government makes the vast majority of decisions for the city.

So you agree that local government isn't inherently any better than state or national government? Or is there some way that this issue is different from the others where we hear wailing and gnashing of teeth over how much better things would be if we left everything to local government?
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If a local govt does something stupid, it mainly affects that locality. Same at the state level. People can vote with their feet and move to other localities that still have sane governments. The idiotic political class of DC doesn't even live under their own stupid local rules. They all commute in from NVA and Maryland.

When the federal government wants to do stupid things, it affects the whole country. Fleeing the stupidity means leaving entirely.

So you have a point about this not being the usual "big government" argument. Its more that any level of govt can act in an abusive way. The consequences of DC being a crime-ridden shithole due to literally having crackhead politicians in charge doesn't effect those outside of that shithole.

But we do get to point and laugh.
 
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"The city has not made clear how it will enforce the law, but the police are in possession of all registrants’ home addresses so confiscation and arrests would be simple."

They kept saying confiscation would never happen. Well its about to.
 
Oyeve said:
I am not a gun advocate nor anti gun, but how is this a bad thing?
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They are making an 'ex post facto' rule. People already went through the hoops and followed the laws to get their gun and now they are changing them. Imagine you own a car and pay your registration for two years. After one year the state comes back to you and says we are raising the registration fee by $48 bucks and now you need to get fingerprinted too. They say if you don't pay, we send you to jail or take your car away. They are making laws that will specifically target you and make you a criminal if you don't comply. You would be pissed off right? Now imagine owning a car is a constitutional right, like being armed is. You should be doubly pissed off now.

From the article:
“Canceling the registration every three years and charging the equivalent of a poll tax to reregister, and requiring citizens to be fingerprinted yet again, adds insult to injury. Criminals in the sex-offender registration system aren’t even subjected to that.”
 
Zaap said:
If a local govt does something stupid, it mainly affects that locality. Same at the state level. People can vote with their feet and move to other localities that still have sane governments. The idiotic political class of DC doesn't even live under their own stupid local rules. They all commute in from NVA and Maryland.
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Like whom? As far as I know the Council and mayor live in the District. Could you link otherwise?

So you have a point about this not being the usual "big government" argument. Its more that any level of govt can act in an abusive way. The consequences of DC being a crime-ridden shithole due to literally having crackhead politicians in charge doesn't effect those outside of that shithole.

But we do get to point and laugh.
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In violent crime per capita, DC is #14 in major cities; #19 in murder rate; #29 in property crime. Obviously those stats aren't great but they're hardly 'crime-ridden shithole.' It's not the 1980s anymore, crime is down everywhere and cities are not that dangerous. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate)
 
KB said:
"The city has not made clear how it will enforce the law, but the police are in possession of all registrants’ home addresses so confiscation and arrests would be simple."

They kept saying confiscation would never happen. Well its about to.
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Libtards are pathological liars and hypocrites.
 
I can see it now, swat teams with no knock warrants arresting people. Should make for some good times, hope the bullets start flying.
 
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