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More Barcelona benches leaked

Its single thread performance is supposedly this poor? I wonder if AMD's "gaming" crown is gonna be lost for good after this.
 
AMD doesn't have a gaming crown for more than a year and I am pretty sure they are not going to touch it in the following 3 years.
 
I have to agree with gOJDO on this.

My prediction for tomorrow is this:
Intel does a surprise launch of Penryn to steal AMD's thunder.
Barcelona still beaten in nearly all catagories.

Can't hardly wait for the fun!
 
penryn isn't that much faster than conroe, anyway. penryn's big advantages are lower heat, higher clcoks, and sse4.
 
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
penryn isn't that much faster than conroe, anyway. penryn's big advantages are lower heat, higher clcoks, and sse4.
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Yeah, but I'm not holding my breath for AMD. It's a mighty big hole to dig out of.
 
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I think that phenom will be faster than penryn, I'm just responding to testtoasterown.
 
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I think that phenom will be faster than penryn, I'm just responding to testtoasterown.
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only a few hours and we'll have at least some idea of what to expect.
 
Originally posted by: TestToasterOwn
I have to agree with gOJDO on this.

My prediction for tomorrow is this:
1. Intel does a surprise launch of Penryn to steal AMD's thunder.
2. Barcelona still beaten in nearly all catagories.

Can't hardly wait for the fun!
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1. Not going to happen, A1 steppings just arrived. 😉

2. Depends on the category, but remember this launch is for the server market, any benches with games and other categories will be useless on a server board that is running DDR2-667 ECC DIMMS and PCI graphics. However, there might be a few surprises for the enterprise market. Who knows what may happen in the near future, maybe a Phenom in a RD790 board might show up for an early look...
 
Originally posted by: Gary Key
Originally posted by: TestToasterOwn
I have to agree with gOJDO on this.

My prediction for tomorrow is this:
1. Intel does a surprise launch of Penryn to steal AMD's thunder.
2. Barcelona still beaten in nearly all catagories.

Can't hardly wait for the fun!
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1. Not going to happen, A1 steppings just arrived. 😉

2. Depends on the category, but remember this launch is for the server market, any benches with games and other categories will be useless on a server board that is running DDR2-667 ECC DIMMS and PCI graphics. However, there might be a few surprises for the enterprise market. Who knows what may happen in the near future, maybe a Phenom in a RD790 board might show up for an early look...
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It's a good point, this CPU isn't running on typical desktop boards with which we can test the performance of the system in games and applications that are real to everyone. Server market is a bit distant to me, but it still would give an indication of how the CPUs would compare on the desktop front. The only factor left out is overclocking.
 
Maybe I'm not be remembering accurately but the reviews I've seen seem to indicate around 5% average improvement across the board with Penryn clock-for-clock. That coupled with the higher clocks and lower power will make it a sure win, in my humble opinion.

 
Originally posted by: Gary KeyDepends on the category, but remember this launch is for the server market, any benches with games and other categories will be useless on a server board that is running DDR2-667 ECC DIMMS and PCI graphics. However, there might be a few surprises for the enterprise market. Who knows what may happen in the near future, maybe a Phenom in a RD790 board might show up for an early look...
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I don't believe that the chipset and the higher clocked RAM will make a significant difference in gaming performance. I am pretty sure that a Wolfdale will hold the gaming performance crown.
 
Originally posted by: gOJDO
Originally posted by: Gary KeyDepends on the category, but remember this launch is for the server market, any benches with games and other categories will be useless on a server board that is running DDR2-667 ECC DIMMS and PCI graphics. However, there might be a few surprises for the enterprise market. Who knows what may happen in the near future, maybe a Phenom in a RD790 board might show up for an early look...
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I don't believe that the chipset and the higher clocked RAM will make a significant difference in gaming performance. I am pretty sure that a Wolfdale will hold the gaming performance crown.
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ECC ram is slow, and yes the chipset makes a difference in performance of the system as a whole.
 
Originally posted by: TestToasterOwn
Maybe I'm not be remembering accurately but the reviews I've seen seem to indicate around 5% average improvement across the board with Penryn clock-for-clock. That coupled with the higher clocks and lower power will make it a sure win, in my humble opinion.
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there are no reviews yet...
 
Originally posted by: gOJDO
Originally posted by: Gary KeyDepends on the category, but remember this launch is for the server market, any benches with games and other categories will be useless on a server board that is running DDR2-667 ECC DIMMS and PCI graphics. However, there might be a few surprises for the enterprise market. Who knows what may happen in the near future, maybe a Phenom in a RD790 board might show up for an early look...
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I don't believe that the chipset and the higher clocked RAM will make a significant difference in gaming performance. I am pretty sure that a Wolfdale will hold the gaming performance crown.
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I am pretty sure an extreme edition quad core will hold the gaming crown for 2 reasons:
1. More and more games going forward will be able to make at least some use of quad core. Even if they don't then they can still benefit from the larger cache size of the quads. Therefore, quads don't have to clock as high to have the gaming crown.
2. Rumor has it that intel is picking their best chips for the quads. While this is just a rumor, it does make sense. They can sell the quads for a premium and position wolfdale as the "budget" cpu, thus getting back their investment + some extra profit for using 2 wolfdales in one quad.

 
Originally posted by: TestToasterOwn
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: TestToasterOwn
Maybe I'm not be remembering accurately but the reviews I've seen seem to indicate around 5% average improvement across the board with Penryn clock-for-clock. That coupled with the higher clocks and lower power will make it a sure win, in my humble opinion.
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there are no reviews yet...
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Oh really?

The Penryn Preview - Part I: Wolfdale Performance
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This is about Barcelona...not Intel chips.
 
I am pretty sure an extreme edition quad core will hold the gaming crown for 2 reasons:
1. More and more games going forward will be able to make at least some use of quad core. Even if they don't then they can still benefit from the larger cache size of the quads. Therefore, quads don't have to clock as high to have the gaming crown.
2. Rumor has it that intel is picking their best chips for the quads. While this is just a rumor, it does make sense. They can sell the quads for a premium and position wolfdale as the "budget" cpu, thus getting back their investment + some extra profit for using 2 wolfdales in one quad.
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In addition, it looks like the two missing chips not shown on Penryn models will be an extreme edition and a low clocked dual core.

Which means the highest clocked desktop Penryn will become a quad core.
 
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
that is a 5 % improvement over conroe, not over barcelona.
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No really, you think?

Whatever gave you that idea?

That's exactly what I said... Penryn showed approximately 5% improvement clock-for-clock. I'm sorry you misunderstood me.
 
Originally posted by: TestToasterOwn
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
that is a 5 % improvement over conroe, not over barcelona.
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No really, you think?

Whatever gave you that idea?

That's exactly what I said... Penryn showed approximately 5% improvement clock-for-clock. I'm sorry you misunderstood me.
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This thread is about Barcelona though...so everyone thought you were like "Penryn is faster by 5% than Barcelona" when we have no proof.
 
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