More Bad News for Kerry

MonkeyK

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Why is this bad news for Kerry. He has said that he would like to see greater UN involvement in Iraq.
 

HardWarrior

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How is this bad news for Kerry? Bush calls the UN useless because it didn't back his war. He runs back a year later begging for help and election-year cover. If you've got a memory and don't drink major party Kool-Aid it's bad for Bush.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The good news for Kerry is that he is running against the Dub!

How will that be good for Kerry?

Things are making a turn for the better in Iraq

The 2.59 Million jobs lost as of August 2003 is now 1.16 Million as of May 2004

Economists are now predicting that by the time of the election there could be a net increase of 700000 jobs. Its not too good under normal circumstances, however if its comes true its quite remarkable considering the recession, the dot.com bust, the accounting scandals, 9/11, the afghan war and the iraq war.

If in just over a year that could be a swing of 3.3 million jobs....not too shabby.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
How is this bad news for Kerry? Bush calls the UN useless because it didn't back his war. He runs back a year later begging for help and election-year cover. If you've got a memory and don't drink major party Kool-Aid it's bad for Bush.
Well while it might piuss off his supporters they still aren't going to jump ship and vote for Kerry. Of course some of them might not vote at all.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: MonkeyK
Why is this bad news for Kerry. He has said that he would like to see greater UN involvement in Iraq.

But its happening under Bush's watch not Kerry's.

Kerry can't take the credit and it will be more difficult to attack his lack of going to the UN
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
How is this bad news for Kerry? Bush calls the UN useless because it didn't back his war. He runs back a year later begging for help and election-year cover. If you've got a memory and don't drink major party Kool-Aid it's bad for Bush.

Please provide a link where Bush calls the UN Useless
 

oreagan

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Alternate, less cynical title:

More good news in Iraq.


I've always supported the war against Saddam and believe it could turn out to be one of the greatest humanitarian victories of the century. News like this and the article yesterday about most of the independent militias giving up power voluntarily in Iraq are milestones that give me real hope. Why turn it into petty bickering?
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: oreagan
Alternate, less cynical title:

More good news in Iraq.


I've always supported the war against Saddam and believe it could turn out to be one of the greatest humanitarian victories of the century. News like this and the article yesterday about most of the independent militias giving up power voluntarily in Iraq are milestones that give me real hope. Why turn it into petty bickering?

I thought thats what this forum is all about ;)
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
How is this bad news for Kerry? Bush calls the UN useless because it didn't back his war. He runs back a year later begging for help and election-year cover. If you've got a memory and don't drink major party Kool-Aid it's bad for Bush.

Please provide a link where Bush calls the UN Useless

I take it you aren't a believe in the whole "actions speak louder than words" philosophy? How much UN involvement was there in Iraq at the beginning of this quagmire?

Anyways, I say let's take a less cynical approach like Oreagan said: this is good news for Iraq.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: etech
I'd say that is good news for all Americans and Iraqis.

Period.

I agree. Now if only the Iraqi's would grow a set and start fighting for their own freedom instead of letting us do it for them!
 

gistech1978

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Originally posted by: oreagan
Alternate, less cynical title:

More good news in Iraq.


I've always supported the war against Saddam and believe it could turn out to be one of the greatest humanitarian victories of the century. News like this and the article yesterday about most of the independent militias giving up power voluntarily in Iraq are milestones that give me real hope. Why turn it into petty bickering?

wow, that is indeed saying alot.
since our current century is a whopping 4 years old.
 
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This thread's title is a nice synopsis of why this place is a shadow of what it could be, in terms of intelligent discussion. Way to take a piece of otherwise-positive news and turn it into partisan flamebaiting!

In other stories from today's news,

Kerry Crushed - Marc Anthony Won't Confirm Marriage to J.Lo

Kerry's Anti-Space Agenda Foiled - Venus Crosses the Sun For First Time Since 1882

Kerry's Mollycoddling Foreign Policy Strikes Again - Indonesian Volcanoes Erupt, Killing Two
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: MonkeyK
Why is this bad news for Kerry. He has said that he would like to see greater UN involvement in Iraq.

But its happening under Bush's watch not Kerry's.

Kerry can't take the credit and it will be more difficult to attack his lack of going to the UN

It's happening in spite of Bush, not because of him.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: MonkeyK
Why is this bad news for Kerry. He has said that he would like to see greater UN involvement in Iraq.

But its happening under Bush's watch not Kerry's.

Kerry can't take the credit and it will be more difficult to attack his lack of going to the UN

It's happening in spite of Bush, not because of him.

Don_Vito
This thread's title is a nice synopsis of why this place is a shadow of what it could be, in terms of intelligent discussion. Way to take a piece of otherwise-positive news and turn it into partisan flamebaiting!



Wasn't it nice of Conjur to provide such an apt example of what you were talking about.

edit/

Don_Vito, what do you think of the thread title "Bonzo_Bucks"? A display of partiship poor taste?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: MonkeyK
Why is this bad news for Kerry. He has said that he would like to see greater UN involvement in Iraq.

But its happening under Bush's watch not Kerry's.

Kerry can't take the credit and it will be more difficult to attack his lack of going to the UN

It's happening in spite of Bush, not because of him.

Don_Vito
This thread's title is a nice synopsis of why this place is a shadow of what it could be, in terms of intelligent discussion. Way to take a piece of otherwise-positive news and turn it into partisan flamebaiting!



Wasn't it nice of Conjur to provide such an apt example of what you were talking about.

Because you don't like the truth you try to denigrate my post?
 

etech

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: MonkeyK
Why is this bad news for Kerry. He has said that he would like to see greater UN involvement in Iraq.

But its happening under Bush's watch not Kerry's.

Kerry can't take the credit and it will be more difficult to attack his lack of going to the UN

It's happening in spite of Bush, not because of him.

Don_Vito
This thread's title is a nice synopsis of why this place is a shadow of what it could be, in terms of intelligent discussion. Way to take a piece of otherwise-positive news and turn it into partisan flamebaiting!



Wasn't it nice of Conjur to provide such an apt example of what you were talking about.

Because you don't like the truth you try to denigrate my post?

I don't like the way you distort what is happening and call it the "truth". Especially when you throw out a one-liner with no substantiation. Don_Vito's "partisan flame-baiting" term fits very well.


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conjur

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Partisan? You calling me a Democrat?

HA!!

The only party I follow is the anti-BS party and this adminstration has proven to be full of that!

Bush promised full sovereignty but that's not going to happen. He lied.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: conjur
Partisan? You calling me a Democrat?

HA!!

The only party I follow is the anti-BS party and this adminstration has proven to be full of that!

Bush promised full sovereignty but that's not going to happen. He lied.

It wasn't a lie, just a difference of opinion ;)
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: conjur
Partisan? You calling me a Democrat?

HA!!

The only party I follow is the anti-BS party and this adminstration has proven to be full of that!

Bush promised full sovereignty but that's not going to happen. He lied.

and in time they will get it.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: conjur
Partisan? You calling me a Democrat?

HA!!

The only party I follow is the anti-BS party and this adminstration has proven to be full of that!

Bush promised full sovereignty but that's not going to happen. He lied.

No, he didn't as the other thread covered very well.

I see no need to point out the obvious and get into one of your little pissing matches. I appreciate the humor in your statements though.
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: MonkeyK
Why is this bad news for Kerry. He has said that he would like to see greater UN involvement in Iraq.

But its happening under Bush's watch not Kerry's.

Kerry can't take the credit and it will be more difficult to attack his lack of going to the UN

It's happening in spite of Bush, not because of him.

Keep telling yourself that

:beer:

Now what is Kerry gonna cry about though???