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woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
16,242
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Best way to trigger a Nazi? Make a video game where you kill them all! Hell, it's so easy that we've been doing it successfully since 1981!

....Jesus Christ, the whole Wolfenstein franchise is 36 years old. I'm surprised the name is still going on strong.
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I played the first Wolfenstein on my Apple 2plus as a teenager circa 1983. Great fun. Achtung! Schweinenund!
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
26,114
12,313
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So the snowflakes of the politically "correct" right have them self in a tizzy because advertising for the latest installment of nazi shooter Wolfenstein is anti-nazi.
https://www.avclub.com/nazi-killing-video-game-adopts-controversial-anti-nazi-1819203208

They've been releasing a blitzkrieg of tweets voicing their displeasure. :rolleyes:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein was the last time I really played PC games. I realized how much of my life (about 2 weeks) was totally preoccupied with the stupid thing. Playing till you hear the birds chirping and you finally blink for the first time in a couple hours and it hurts. That was it for me.
 
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UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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Return to Castle Wolfenstein was the last time I really played PC games. I realized how much of my life (about 2 weeks) was totally preoccupied with the stupid thing. Playing till you hear the birds chirping and you finally blink for the first time in a couple hours and it hurts. That was it for me.


I’d do the same with Civilization. If I started a large map I’d see the sunrise.
 
Feb 16, 2005
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Can't believe this hasn't been trotted out yet. (possibly my favorite QT movie)
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Triloby

Senior member
Mar 18, 2016
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I played the first Wolfenstein on my Apple 2plus as a teenager circa 1983. Great fun. Achtung! Schweinenund!

386SX at 25 MHz when I played the hell out of Wolfenstein 3D. Mostly the shareware version at the time. Good times then.
 

urvile

Golden Member
Aug 3, 2017
1,575
474
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There was a long thread on steam. Which I assume was started by "conservative activists" (it seemed organised) where they were complaining about commies being the good guys in the game. Then away they went trying to link nazis to socialism because NSDAP has the word socialist in it. The fact that the nazis are far right seemed to be completely lost on them even after it was pointed out. It's trying to shape a narrative while completely ignoring reality.

The most frustrating part is they could easily resolve their confusion with a quick google search.

It's also just a computer game which I have already pre-ordered. :)
 
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nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
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Notice that Wolfenstein has existed for a few decades now. But this year is the first Nazi controversy.

Either they are louder, but still completely inconsequential, or... they've actually grown. If they have experienced any growth it's a result of vulnerable people (economy) being galvanized by partisanship. If conservatives see extremists as the only ones willing to #MAGA and you only offer venom... they'll take the extremists and begin to identify with them.

In terms of social media, the madness of the 2016 election is unending. That will cause psychological breaks and extreme partisanship. It'll make people see you as the "enemy" and a white supremacist as less than such. Over time such alignment will only cement itself further. Gone are the days when people would be removed from the ego surrounding politics and have time to smell the roses, or see the humanity in one another. This controversy is simply another warning sign of our worsening madness.
Of course, when you say "vulnerable people (economy) being galvanized by partisanship", what you're saying is right-wing authoritarian bigots.
 
Feb 16, 2005
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Dum dums probably don't know about the origin of the word Bethesda.

PS Bethesda better create a DLC where Nazis are armed with tiki torches.
Thank you! Seriously. I enjoy learning new things and had zero idea that
a) Bethesda meant anything beyond a name for a software gaming company
b) that it had any religious origins

Bethesda [N] [H]

house of mercy, a reservoir (Gr. kolumbethra, "a swimming bath") with five porches, close to the sheep-gate or market ( Nehemiah 3:1 ; John 5:2 ). Eusebius the historian (A.D. 330) calls it "the sheep-pool." It is also called "Bethsaida" and "Beth-zatha" ( John 5:2 , RSV marg.). Under these "porches" or colonnades were usually a large number of infirm people waiting for the "troubling of the water." It is usually identified with the modern so-called Fountain of the Virgin, in the valley of the Kidron, and not far from the Pool of Siloam (q.v.); and also with the Birket Israel, a pool near the mouth of the valley which runs into the Kidron south of "St. Stephen's Gate." Others again identify it with the twin pools called the "Souterrains," under the convent of the Sisters of Zion, situated in what must have been the rock-hewn ditch between Bezetha and the fortress of Antonia. But quite recently Schick has discovered a large tank, as sketched here, situated about 100 feet north-west of St. Anne's Church, which is, as he contends, very probably the Pool of Bethesda. No certainty as to its identification, however, has as yet been arrived at. (See FOUNTAIN; GIHON .)
http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/bethesda/
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
100,364
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Thank you! Seriously. I enjoy learning new things and had zero idea that
a) Bethesda meant anything beyond a name for a software gaming company
b) that it had any religious origins


http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/bethesda/


I learned it reading some old sci fi book featuring space mercs that had Jewish heritage. I think it was Not for Glory, but not sure.

It was early 90s so don't remember that well.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,864
31,359
146
Goddamn Indiana Jones and his anti-Nazi shenanigans too!

Indiana Jones is going to have to be censored and re-released so that all scenes of anti-nazi violence are removed and that it can be properly presented to all the snowflakes at the upcoming "4th Reich" RNC convention in 2020.
 
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Feb 16, 2005
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Indiana Jones is going to have to be censored and re-released so that all scenes of anti-nazi violence are removed and that it can be properly presented to all the snowflakes at the upcoming "4th Reich" RNC convention in 2020.
I believe some modders are working on having Indy give the nazi's white polo shirts and tiki torches instead of punches to the face
 

Skyclad1uhm1

Lifer
Aug 10, 2001
11,383
87
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Indiana Jones is going to have to be censored and re-released so that all scenes of anti-nazi violence are removed and that it can be properly presented to all the snowflakes at the upcoming "4th Reich" RNC convention in 2020.

They can always chance the nazis to aliens :cool:
 

urvile

Golden Member
Aug 3, 2017
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Wolfenstein has always been censored in germany. They have to remove all of the nazi references. I guess the germans are a bit sensitive about their glorious nazi past. On another note does anyone remember the game homeland? Where north korea invades the US? Was there a big alt-right furore over that one? As someone on the outside looking in. I cannot believe how bitterly divided along ideological lines the US has become.

It's a fucking computer game. Which involves an alternate history storyline. It's fantasy. Get over it. Maybe the donald's desire to start a war on the korean peninsula isn't such a bad idea? Nothing like a war to bring everyone together. Or maybe he bought the incredibly buggy PC version of homeland and it's left him resentful.
 
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J.Wilkins

Platinum Member
Jun 5, 2017
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So the snowflakes of the politically "correct" right have them self in a tizzy because advertising for the latest installment of nazi shooter Wolfenstein is anti-nazi.
https://www.avclub.com/nazi-killing-video-game-adopts-controversial-anti-nazi-1819203208

They've been releasing a blitzkrieg of tweets voicing their displeasure. :rolleyes:

I might buy that game... Haven't played a computer game since Deus Ex and Wolfenstein Enemy Territory so I'll suck at it but there is something about killing fascists that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
 
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sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
100,364
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I might buy that game... Haven't played a computer game since Deus Ex and Wolfenstein Enemy Territory so I'll suck at it but there is something about killing fascists that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.


Enemy Territory is still going on...
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
26,229
15,639
136
Notice that Wolfenstein has existed for a few decades now. But this year is the first Nazi controversy.

Either they are louder, but still completely inconsequential, or... they've actually grown. If they have experienced any growth it's a result of vulnerable people (economy) being galvanized by partisanship. If conservatives see extremists as the only ones willing to #MAGA and you only offer venom... they'll take the extremists and begin to identify with them.

In terms of social media, the madness of the 2016 election is unending. That will cause psychological breaks and extreme partisanship. It'll make people see you as the "enemy" and a white supremacist as less than such. Over time such alignment will only cement itself further. Gone are the days when people would be removed from the ego surrounding politics and have time to smell the roses, or see the humanity in one another. This controversy is simply another warning sign of our worsening madness.

Notice that someone "profits" from unrest in your country and has been caught numerous times funding and inciting both sides, neo facists vs antifas vs whomever.
I just finished the game and holy damn... I imagine death threats is in this studios future, cause god damn. damn damn.
I was a bit miffed at first at the FPS aspect of the game but damson, the story aspect of it sucks you right into first person theater mode .. This is an AAA+ title, no doubt about it.