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[no0b]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: no0b

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: no0b
hagbard,

Do you have the opinion that Americans are Evil Monsters that would not care if thousands of innocent of people were to die.

O and we have not nor will we ever Carpet Bomb a city.

Ummmm.....hate to tell you this but.....look up some history of WWII. It's true that the U.S. wanted to stick to a policy of precision daytime bombing, but the British insisted upon a carpet bombing campaign. Look up the fire bombing of Dresden sometime. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just saying you are.

I know about WW2 but were talking about now we have laser and gps guided bombs so we dont have a level a city to get the aircraft plant.

True now, but you said "O and we have not nor will we ever Carpet Bomb a city"

I meant in modern warfare not from 50+ years ago.

 

[XMan]

You know Hagbard, your position would get a lot more respect and positive attention if you weren't such a bastard about it.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: X-Man
You know Hagbard, your position would get a lot more respect and positive attention if you weren't such a bastard about it.

Hahaha, so true.

Hagbard, i respect your intentions, but there are times where admitting that you're wrong, or that you don't have all the facts, will do wonders.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: no0b
hagbard,

Do you have the opinion that Americans are Evil Monsters that would not care if thousands of innocent of people were to die.

Did I come to that conclusion, or did you?

O and we have not nor will we ever Carpet Bomb a city.

Try reading a newspaper, they are planning to carpet bomb Iraq. Its getting pretty pointless debating with you guys, there is no way you'll ever change your minds, because you are completely closed to anything that doesn't fit your closed world. I supported the US (not very strongly) during the Gulf War...I was wrong. I've been wrong many, many times and I'll admit that. But I've seen nothing that has changed my mind on this, and I am looking for reason, because I once believed in the US.

I can't understand why your all buying the Bush administration BS, and now I know, you're actively avoiding anything that might get you to reconsider your position. BTW, I don't think any of you actually read anything I post, you jump to a conclusion and stick with it.

 

[no0b]

Do we sometimes hit civilian targets: Yes
Do we rejoice when we do: No
Do we indescremiantly bomb cities: No

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: Pr0Hawk
We will invade Iraq and we will win. It will benefit Iraq as well us every other nation. People will be happy a cruel dictator like Saddam is removed from power. Anti-War protesters can go smoke some more weed and life in their fantasy world of peace.

I'm sure that the thousands of dead liberated Iraqis will be so pleased they don't have to live under Saddams rule anymore. Thanks, I see the light.

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: X-Man
You know Hagbard, your position would get a lot more respect and positive attention if you weren't such a bastard about it.

Hahaha, so true.

Hagbard, i respect your intentions, but there are times where admitting that you're wrong, or that you don't have all the facts, will do wonders.

No, please, don't ask him to change. I enjoy watching the damage he does to the credibility of the anti-war argument around here.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: no0b

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: no0b
hagbard,

Do you have the opinion that Americans are Evil Monsters that would not care if thousands of innocent of people were to die.

O and we have not nor will we ever Carpet Bomb a city.

Ummmm.....hate to tell you this but.....look up some history of WWII. It's true that the U.S. wanted to stick to a policy of precision daytime bombing, but the British insisted upon a carpet bombing campaign. Look up the fire bombing of Dresden sometime. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just saying you are.

I know about WW2 but were talking about now we have laser and gps guided bombs so we dont have a level a city to get the aircraft plant.

That is NO what they're saying in the press. They are talking about dropping conventional bombs on Iraq, more in the first day than they used during the entire Gulf War.

I guess it will be a live and learn situation, but one that I believe you won't be able to get out of once you head down that road.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: no0b

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: no0b

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: no0b
hagbard,

Do you have the opinion that Americans are Evil Monsters that would not care if thousands of innocent of people were to die.

O and we have not nor will we ever Carpet Bomb a city.

Ummmm.....hate to tell you this but.....look up some history of WWII. It's true that the U.S. wanted to stick to a policy of precision daytime bombing, but the British insisted upon a carpet bombing campaign. Look up the fire bombing of Dresden sometime. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just saying you are.

I know about WW2 but were talking about now we have laser and gps guided bombs so we dont have a level a city to get the aircraft plant.

True now, but you said "O and we have not nor will we ever Carpet Bomb a city"

I meant in modern warfare not from 50+ years ago.

Then you need to pick your words more carefully. To me the word never means anytime between when the Earth cooled and when the sun explodes and burns the Earth up.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: no0b
hagbard,

Do you have the opinion that Americans are Evil Monsters that would not care if thousands of innocent of people were to die.

Did I come to that conclusion, or did you?

O and we have not nor will we ever Carpet Bomb a city.

Try reading a newspaper, they are planning to carpet bomb Iraq. Its getting pretty pointless debating with you guys, there is no way you'll ever change your minds, because you are completely closed to anything that doesn't fit your closed world. I supported the US (not very strongly) during the Gulf War...I was wrong. I've been wrong many, many times and I'll admit that. But I've seen nothing that has changed my mind on this, and I am looking for reason, because I once believed in the US.

I can't understand why your all buying the Bush administration BS, and now I know, you're actively avoiding anything that might get you to reconsider your position. BTW, I don't think any of you actually read anything I post, you jump to a conclusion and stick with it.

Every article I've read has said that we will be dropping even fewer bombs this time than in the Gulf War due to increased accuracy. I've read absolutely nothing about us having any intention of carpet bombing anyone. Perhaps you can come up with reputable links to back up your statement.

Wrong again, I just read your last post.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: X-Man
You know Hagbard, your position would get a lot more respect and positive attention if you weren't such a bastard about it.

Hahaha, so true.

Hagbard, i respect your intentions, but there are times where admitting that you're wrong, or that you don't have all the facts, will do wonders.

I've done that. I have yet to hear anyone else do the same, however. I'm clearly wasting my effort.

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Originally posted by: hagbardIts getting pretty pointless debating with you guys, there is no way you'll ever change your minds, because you are completely closed to anything that doesn't fit your closed world.

ROFL! That's rich. This coming from the guy who dismisses all articles, links, or information that doesn't agree with his view as lies and/or propaganda.
Yet, shockingly, to back up his point of view he has no problem providing links to some of the most transparently biased rhetoric and propaganda on the internet and now he wonders why no one cares or believes him.

Funny stuff.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: Pr0Hawk
We will invade Iraq and we will win. It will benefit Iraq as well us every other nation. People will be happy a cruel dictator like Saddam is removed from power. Anti-War protesters can go smoke some more weed and life in their fantasy world of peace.

I'm sure that the thousands of dead liberated Iraqis will be so pleased they don't have to live under Saddams rule anymore. Thanks, I see the light.

The asshat is strong in this one.

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Originally posted by: hagbard I'm clearly wasting my effort.

Clearly, your effort is a waste.

 

[Jmman]

ROFL.....

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: Pr0Hawk
We will invade Iraq and we will win. It will benefit Iraq as well us every other nation. People will be happy a cruel dictator like Saddam is removed from power. Anti-War protesters can go smoke some more weed and life in their fantasy world of peace.

I'm sure that the thousands of dead liberated Iraqis will be so pleased they don't have to live under Saddams rule anymore. Thanks, I see the light.

The asshat is strong in this one.

To an extent, I agree with his viewpoint.

Either way, this thing with Iraq is going to suck for the Iraqi people.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: Pr0Hawk
We will invade Iraq and we will win. It will benefit Iraq as well us every other nation. People will be happy a cruel dictator like Saddam is removed from power. Anti-War protesters can go smoke some more weed and life in their fantasy world of peace.

I'm sure that the thousands of dead liberated Iraqis will be so pleased they don't have to live under Saddams rule anymore. Thanks, I see the light.

The asshat is strong in this one.

To an extent, I agree with his viewpoint.

Either way, this thing with Iraq is going to suck for the Iraqi people.

Don't you think that living under Saddam's rule "sucks" for the Iraqi people?

 

[Random Variable]

The Iraqis didn't want to fight us in 1991. And when they attempted to revolt against the regime after the war, we turned our backs on them. We owe them big time.

Yeah, you can argue that we shouldn't do anything because war kills people. And I guess we could do what the French, Germans, and Russians have done, namely befriend the regime and sign multi-billion dollar oil contracts with them.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: Pr0Hawk
We will invade Iraq and we will win. It will benefit Iraq as well us every other nation. People will be happy a cruel dictator like Saddam is removed from power. Anti-War protesters can go smoke some more weed and life in their fantasy world of peace.

I'm sure that the thousands of dead liberated Iraqis will be so pleased they don't have to live under Saddams rule anymore. Thanks, I see the light.

The asshat is strong in this one.

LMAO bwuahahah.... You almost cost me a keyboard

 

[Challenger]

My brother ships out Wednesday and I don't care whether you agree with the Iraqi conflict or not,it's time to show our support for our troops.So STFU with your propaganda and yell GO TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Vespasian
The Iraqis didn't want to fight us in 1991. And when they attempted to revolt against the regime after the war, we turned our backs on them. We owe them big time.

A lot of Americans forget how we betrayed the Shia Iraqi's in the south and the Kurdish Iraqi's in the North. We could have prevented it but Bush decided to appease out so called Arab friends.

 

[ROTC1983]

Originally posted by: EndGame

Originally posted by: hagbard
Hey, I don't want to disappoint you guys so here's some more PROPAGANDA!

Former CIA Analyst asks - A War Crime or an Act of War?

Bush's speech translated

A Question From One Patriotic Veteran To Another: Mr. President, Whatever Happened To Osama Bin Laden?

The one above confuses me a little, I thought Bush weaseled his way out of military service? movie poster

Bush, bin Laden, BCCI and the 9/11 Commission

Not Our Finest Hour

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Vespasian
The Iraqis didn't want to fight us in 1991. And when they attempted to revolt against the regime after the war, we turned our backs on them. We owe them big time.

A lot of Americans forget how we betrayed the Shia Iraqi's in the south and the Kurdish Iraqi's in the North. We could have prevented it but Bush decided to appease out so called Arab friends.

Appease? No, it was more like we had two or we would have lost support of the world and all the people that think the U.N. is just wonderful. Should we have gone into Baghdad? Hell yes. Just like Patton wanted to deal with the Russians right after WWII. Sucks when you can't need to do what should be done because world opinion would be against you.