Moral Dilemma (Received Intel 3930k by mistake)

[BonzaiDuck]

Listen up. You live in a capitalist, cut throat society. Does Newegg employ morals in their rule book? If not, then why are you offering them a handicap in their favor while you both play the same capitalist, cut throat game? Morality is kind of like respect: It goes both ways.
Also, keep it in perspective. If they accidentaly sent you something worth $10, would you bother to send it back? Probably not. Just becsause the value of the CPU is high for normal, working class people like you and I, that doesn't mean the value of that CPU is high to those at Newegg. It is nothing to them and won't be missed.
That said, i'd send it back.

I could respond to this in a way of partial agreement that would have us adjourning to the "news and politics" forum. Dispensing with that, you can't imagine with complete accuracy what they put in database "memo" fields for your account at NewEgg, so if you planned a longer future of doing business with them, you might find it in your self-interest to return the processor.

 

[Shmee]

I would at least attempt to return it. Send them an email and see where it goes. If they give you a bunch of trouble though, I would be a little less generous, but that's just me.

 

[blastingcap]

It isn't an excuse for any behavior one way or another, but no, you are completely wrong . You couldn't be more wrong, actually. You would be laughed out of court by any judge if you tried to argue that point.

I think you may be right at least for ordinary consumers (the rules may be different as between merchants under the Uniform Commercial Code, for example, and no, a judge won't laugh if, say, the US Army accidentally ships a ton of MREs to Joe Blow, for instance; I'm pretty sure Joe does not simply get to keep them for free). Does not change the rest of my post.

 

[lakedude]

If NewEgg had never screwed me over this would be an easy choice. I'd return the CPU no question.

Thing is NewEgg has screwed me over by selling me hard drives that had no warranty. Newegg claims a 2 year but Samsung claims otherwise. 2 drives have already gone bad and NewEgg left me hanging in the wind.

Now there is no question I'd keep the CPU to balance the screwing I took on the 8 hard drives. I'd call it Karma and be done with it.

Once the Karmatic scales were balanced I'd go back to being "honest" again...

 

[Perknose]

Listen up. You live in a capitalist, cut throat society. Does Newegg employ morals in their rule book? If not, then why are you offering them a handicap in their favor while you both play the same capitalist, cut throat game? Morality is kind of like respect: It goes both ways.
Also, keep it in perspective. If they accidentaly sent you something worth $10, would you bother to send it back? Probably not. Just becsause the value of the CPU is high for normal, working class people like you and I, that doesn't mean the value of that CPU is high to those at Newegg. It is nothing to them and won't be missed.

Rationalization after rationalization. You are right that morality is like respect, but it is self-respect.

Your morality is never dependent on the morality of others, it is never depndent on any outside factors at all. Your morality is your North Star, it comes from within you, it embodies what you know to be the deepest, truest way to act, and THIS does not vary with the seasons, situations, or other players.

OP, ask yourself what the price of your self-respect is. If you would sell it for $500, it was never worth much in the first place. Morality is what we do anyway when there are no obvious consequences. It comes from deep with you, from the core of who you are, which is why no one can ever take it away.

You can only give it away.

Don't give yours away.

At the end of the day, who you are is what you do. All the rest is just words.

That said, i'd send it back.

You took the tourist route through the jungle of false and shiny excuses, but, finally, you came back home. Welcome home. 😉

 

[Despoiler]

IANAL, but I believe this is true. There are consumer protections in place to protect people from predatory sellers who will ship you something you did not order, and then bill you for it.*** Thus, if you receive something that you did not order, you do not owe a cent even if you don't return it.

That won't stop them from taking you to small claims court, but if they actually have to hire a lawyer and pay normal fees for that (if they don't have one on payroll already) then they may as well eat the cost.

It's Newegg not some scam shop. If they know they sent you the CPU by mistake they can ask for it back and send you the return shipping label. If you refuse to send it back you just stole it.

Also, there are no lawyers allowed in small claims court. Newegg would send a company rep who would be coached and have evidence gathered from their lawyers against you. What is your defense going to be with this forum thread hanging out there?

 

[kdubbs]

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

aaaannd /thread

p.s. singer needs a bass

 

[JustMe21]

OK, let's say he keeps it and opens it and uses it, then Newegg discovers their mistake and asks for it back. Where does it go from there? The problem is that it's not a cheap item, so someone is going to get in trouble and possibly fired. I know if you had accidentally sent someone $500 and asked for it back, you would hope the person on the other end would be understanding enough to send it back.

 

[moonbogg]

Rationalization after rationalization. You are right that morality is like respect, but it is self-respect.

Your morality is never dependent on the morality of others, it is never depndent on any outside factors at all. Your morality is your North Star, it comes from within you, it embodies what you know to be the deepest, truest way to act, and THIS does not vary with the seasons, situations, or other players.

OP, ask yourself what the price of your self-respect is. If you would sell it for $500, it was never worth much in the first place. Morality is what we do anyway when there are no obvious consequences. It comes from deep with you, from the core of who you are, which is why no one can ever take it away.

You can only give it away.

Don't give yours away.

At the end of the day, who you are is what you do. All the rest is just words.



You took the tourist route through the jungle of false and shiny excuses, but, finally, you came back home. Welcome home. 😉

Yeah, its fun to try and justify keeping the CPU, just to see if doing that can make sense in this situation. Too bad it doesn't and can't, lol.

 

[guskline]

Do the right thing. Call Newegg CS and explain what happened.

 

[daninfamous]

Call newegg and explain they forgot to send you a free motherboard with that free chip

 

[Sephire]

Send it back. This may cause another person's job.

Do the right thing.

 

[wirednuts]

i dunno... its newegg... i would probably keep it. this is in line with 'fell off the truck' stuff.

if it were a small store or a small amazon seller or something, i would send it back. but its newegg... i mean the damage done is nearly non existent. i doubt theyll track it back to you, and most likely it will end up as lost inventory at the end of the year.

what would suck though is if that processor IS on someone else's packing slip, and they open THEIR box to find no $550 processor, and newegg DOESNT believe them. that would really suck for the other guy.

 

[Diogenes2]

Anyone want to guess how many PM's the OP has received with offers ?

 

[country2]

Send it back...

Years ago I had order a router with a built in print server costing about 85 dollars from believe it was ebuyer.com. well few days later UPS arrived and dropped off a large box. It appears that instead of a router I got sent a case of routers. I spent 3 hours trying to get a hold of someone and let them know. When I finally did, it took awhile for them to realize I got 1 case...they kept saying they shipped 1 box and I kept telling them 1 box with 10 smaller boxes i it. They did give me 10 dollars off on next purchase...cheap bastards!

Also as far as receiving something you did not order. A couple years ago we received in 2 days 2 250 dollar back packs and some fancy tea leaves from different stores.

My wife called to cops to see what we need to do and they told us by law if we wanted to we could keep the items but of course we didn't and my wife manage to track down a old couple in NY that it appeared someone had used their credit card in fo and for some unknown reason used our address...NOW don;t know if your situation falls under a different rules since you did order from them.

 

[BD231]

Send it back. This may cause another person's job.

Do the right thing.

If someone's dumb enough to be packing high priced items where they don't belong they deserved to be fired anyway.

Next time keep this kind of info to yourself OP.

 

[Kenmitch]

Anyone want to guess how many PM's the OP has received with offers ?

Too many most likely.

what would suck though is if that processor IS on someone else's packing slip, and they open THEIR box to find no $550 processor, and newegg DOESNT believe them. that would really suck for the other guy

Dependant on where the CPU was suppost to go this senario might already be in play.

Guess that would give the OP a double dose of bad Karma.

If someone's dumb enough to be packing high priced items where they don't belong they deserved to be fired anyway. Next time keep this kind of info to yourself OP.

Most likely the CPU belonged in the box before or after the OP's order.

So what your saying is if somebody sold you an item and they accidently lost their wedding ring in your package you'd call them a dumb*** and keep it....At least that's what I got from your statement.

 

[BD231]

So what your saying is if somebody sold you an item and they accidently lost their wedding ring in your package you'd call them a dumb*** and keep it....At least that's what I got from your statement.

Clearly you didn't read the last part, and way to compare a cpu to an item with sentimental value that's totally the same thing.

 

[wbynum]

Email Newegg and tell them to send a return shipping label or send out the carrier to pick it back up (which ever is more convenient for you). If they ignore the email or argue then keep/sell the CPU with a clean conscious.

 

[SPBHM]

Email Newegg and tell them to send a return shipping label or send out the carrier to pick it back up (which ever is more convenient for you). If they ignore the email or argue then keep/sell the CPU with a clean conscious.

this,
try to send the CPU back, but it was their mistake to begin with, so if they make it to hard to send it back... just give up and keep it.

 

[ShintaiDK]

troll thread.

A moral person would have posted a story about how they returned it already.
An immoral person would not have posted anything at all and would have posted a "new uber build thread" already.


this?

I smell someone is working on a school assignment or something.

People usually try to legitimate an immorale action by seeking support of others. If everyone else would keep it he would feel "clean".

To the OP: As others had said, return it. its not even a question to be asked. If you keep it you deserve only hate for your joining of the ranks of lowest scums on earth.

 

[Phantomaniac]

this,
try to send the CPU back, but it was their mistake to begin with, so if they make it to hard to send it back... just give up and keep it.

Seconded.

 

[Maximilian]

Post it to me ill make sure it gets back to newegg safely :sneaky:

 

[Nintendesert]

Rationalization after rationalization. You are right that morality is like respect, but it is self-respect.

Your morality is never dependent on the morality of others, it is never depndent on any outside factors at all. Your morality is your North Star, it comes from within you, it embodies what you know to be the deepest, truest way to act, and THIS does not vary with the seasons, situations, or other players.

OP, ask yourself what the price of your self-respect is. If you would sell it for $500, it was never worth much in the first place. Morality is what we do anyway when there are no obvious consequences. It comes from deep with you, from the core of who you are, which is why no one can ever take it away.

You can only give it away.

Don't give yours away.

At the end of the day, who you are is what you do. All the rest is just words.



You took the tourist route through the jungle of false and shiny excuses, but, finally, you came back home. Welcome home. 😉

I really wish more people would weigh these kinds of decisions like that. It really comes down to just that, what is your price? People are willing to very quickly sell out their honor and self respect for just a few dollars. People can bitch about politicians being corrupt, but at least they sell themselves out for millions of dollars. The OP and a few others in this thread were willing to sell themselves out and be just as corrupt for a mere pittance. About 500 bucks, and I think for some far less was all they are worth. Pretty sad.

 

[Aristotelian]

Rationalization after rationalization. You are right that morality is like respect, but it is self-respect.

Your morality is never dependent on the morality of others, it is never depndent on any outside factors at all. Your morality is your North Star, it comes from within you, it embodies what you know to be the deepest, truest way to act, and THIS does not vary with the seasons, situations, or other players.

OP, ask yourself what the price of your self-respect is. If you would sell it for $500, it was never worth much in the first place. Morality is what we do anyway when there are no obvious consequences. It comes from deep with you, from the core of who you are, which is why no one can ever take it away.

You can only give it away.

Don't give yours away.

At the end of the day, who you are is what you do. All the rest is just words.



You took the tourist route through the jungle of false and shiny excuses, but, finally, you came back home. Welcome home. 😉

Thanks for this. I quoted your post in its entirety (even though it has featured at least twice on this page) precisely because it is the sort of thing that bears repeating.

I was once walking down a street towards a video store and saw a man getting into a car (in the passenger seat, I presume his wife was driving). A few thick envelopes fell out of his bag. The car sped away, and I picked up the envelopes. Lo and behold, almost 9000 dollars was to be found. I walked into the video store to ask if they knew who the guy was, and it turns out it was the owner. They called him - he came back, and I handed him the envelopes. He was ecstatic, and drove away.

At no point was I tempted to take the money. It wasn't mine. This world needs more of the sort of person who is willing to give back, and perhaps more people who focus on 'giving back' than receiving.

And, send it back.